Funny loophole in undrerage drinking, ordering booze over phone with credit cards.

Run_to_da_hills · 05-09-2008 04:32PM #1

Reading in this evenings Herald, it has reported a large loophole in the underage drinking law where kids can use their parents credit cards to order booze over the phone, the booze is then delivered to the house without question.

How long will it last in this country before we will have to flash photo ID before we can purchase alcohol?

Zangetsu · 05-09-2008 04:36PM

Its people like you that ruin loopholes

Poor kids, how they gonna learn lifes lessons now...

bluto63 · 05-09-2008 04:42PM

My brother used to always do that, order off restaurant express and they'd deliver it to him. Occasionally they checked, but generally it was easy for him. I'd say they'll start crackin down on it soon

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 05-09-2008 04:48PM

If it can be argued that the parent made the transaction (given it was there credit card) then there is nothing wrong that I can see.

In a private residence, there is no age restriction on the consuption of alcohol /edit and therefore, no loophole to close.

boogle · 05-09-2008 04:53PM

Is there an axe-grinding forum?

Run_to_da_hills · 05-09-2008 05:12PM

I knew someone that use to dial a regular taxi to deliver booze

bleg · 05-09-2008 05:13PM

1800-BEER-ME

byrner88 · 05-09-2008 05:50PM

i used to use my brothers delivery number for our off licence when i was underage.

Cuddlesworth · 05-09-2008 06:03PM

Wasn't the delivery of alcohol made illegal in that last off license law update?

Karoma · 05-09-2008 06:12PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Reading in this evenings Herald, it has reported a large loophole in the underage drinking law where kids can use their parents credit cards to order booze over the phone, the booze is then delivered to the house without question. How long will it last in this country before we will have to flash photo ID before we can purchase alcohol?

Not soon enough. It should require ID. It should require a reliable, widely-recognized ID...a national ID perhaps? By Jove! What an idea. Good man Run_to_'da'_hills. I support your supporting of a national ID. I'll always be behind you all the way.

Run_to_da_hills · 05-09-2008 06:19PM

Karoma wrote: »

Not soon enough. It should require ID. It should require a reliable, widely-recognized ID...a national ID perhaps? By Jove! What an idea. Good man Run_to_'da'_hills. I support your supporting of a national ID. I'll always be behind you all the way.

Yea have each bottle or can tagged with an RFID tag. (Tesco already tag wines & spirits over e10 value with RFID security) When you purchase your booze you swipe your National ID card along with the tagged booze into the system and they know exactly where the booze was bough and who bought it. If you drive under the Westlink gantry after a large purchase the aurthorities will assume you are going to an unauthorised party to sell the stuff and will follow you :eek:

drunkmonkey · 05-09-2008 06:19PM

Isn't there something in the Law that allows kids form the age of 8 to drink once there with there parents buy it from them....I don't think parents can be procuted for buying there children booze....it's a pretty old law but it's there somewhere...

They shoud scrap the age limit and encourage personal responsibility, it might take 14 years before we see the benafit but it would end underage binge drinking....

i'm thirsty after all that....:D Time to hit the pint shop!!

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 05-09-2008 06:24PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Isn't there something in the Law that allows kids form the age of 8 to drink once there with there parents buy it from them....I don't think parents can be procuted for buying there children booze....it's a pretty old law but it's there somewhere...

There's no age limit. Children can be given alcohol by their parents at any age. Social services obviously might have something to say if children are put in danger however.

drunkmonkey · 05-09-2008 06:26PM

Sean_K wrote: »

There's no age limit. Children can be given alcohol by their parents at any age. Social services obviously might have something to say if children are put in danger however.

OMFG!!:eek:, My dad made me wait untill I was 8, it's definatly the nursing home for him now.....

Karoma · 05-09-2008 06:32PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Yea have each bottle or can tagged with an RFID tag. (Tesco already tag wines & spirits over e10 value with RFID security) When you purchase your booze you swipe your National ID card along with the tagged booze into the system and they know exactly where the booze was bough and who bought it. If you drive under the Westlink gantry after a large purchase the aurthorities will assume you are going to an unauthorised party to sell the stuff and will follow you :eek:

Again, you're saying this is a good thing, right? I agree with you.
You're really special. Really. You are. Have you visited the Personal Issues or Conspiracy Theories fora?

FunkZ · 05-09-2008 06:37PM

Karoma wrote: »

I'll always be behind you all the way.

I will also always be behind Run-to-da-hills

Run_to_da_hills · 05-09-2008 06:39PM

Karoma wrote: »

Again, you're saying this is a good thing, right? I agree with you.
You're really special. Really. You are. Have you visited the Personal Issues or Conspiracy Theories fora?

I am only suggesting the Inevitable. Wait and see.

Davidius · 05-09-2008 06:48PM

Damn kids and their dernking.

CDUK · 05-09-2008 07:28PM

Just as bad for adults! http://xrl.us/bmuhg Saucy!!!!

Jay P · 05-09-2008 08:01PM

I don't really see how they dont get caught. Surely the parents will see on the bill that drink was bought. It used to be in Ennis that you could pay when it was delivered. Now you need a credit card. Which is ghey.

weeder · 05-09-2008 09:35PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Yea have each bottle or can tagged with an RFID tag. (Tesco already tag wines & spirits over e10 value with RFID security) When you purchase your booze you swipe your National ID card along with the tagged booze into the system and they know exactly where the booze was bough and who bought it. If you drive under the Westlink gantry after a large purchase the aurthorities will assume you are going to an unauthorised party to sell the stuff and will follow you :eek:

lollerific

Run_to_da_hills · 05-09-2008 09:48PM

Jay P wrote: »

I don't really see how they dont get caught. Surely the parents will see on the bill that drink was bought..

There are plenty of rich kid parents that don't even bother to look at their statements.

Jay P wrote: »

It used to be in Ennis that you could pay when it was delivered. Now you need a credit card. Which is ghey.

You can still get served on the slate in some pubs in Ennis

AlmightyCushion · 05-09-2008 10:10PM

Karoma wrote: »

I'll always be behind you all the way.

FunkZ wrote: »

I will also always be behind Run-to-da-hills

Seriously guys, we don't want to hear about your threesome.

Cookie_Monster · 05-09-2008 11:28PM

I for one welcome our new booze delivering overlords...

Jay P · 06-09-2008 12:54AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You can still get served on the slate in some pubs in Ennis

Yes! I do know this!

Insect Overlord · 06-09-2008 01:19AM

Jay P wrote: »

Yes! I do know this!

Pipe down junior, you're too young to be drinking anyways!

thelordofcheese · 06-09-2008 01:25AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I am only suggesting the Inevitable. Wait and see.

there is so much wroong with this i don't know where to begin. I'm going to assume with fellow metalist.....
nope that didn't work. I can't imagine the beginining....

skyhighflyer · 06-09-2008 01:40AM

I remember phoning up a taxi as a 15 year old and getting them to pick up two 6 packes and 20 smokes. All the lad on the other end said was "You'll sort him out for the run and the cans yeah?" When the guy got to the door, gave him £20 and he went off; no questions asked. Kids these days must not be as enterprising. :P

allybhoy · 06-09-2008 02:51AM

skyhighflyer wrote: »

I remember phoning up a taxi as a 15 year old and getting them to pick up two 6 packes and 20 smokes. All the lad on the other end said was "You'll sort him out for the run and the cans yeah?" When the guy got to the door, gave him £20 and he went off; no questions asked. Kids these days must not be as enterprising. :P

Yeh we used to do a similar thing back in the day. Ring the local chinese and in our deepest Ronnie Drew voice ask for a "bag of chips and a curry sauce, Oh and would ya mind stopping into the off license for 20cans of stonehouse, 20 bottles of purple woodies and 100 john player blue" - Sorted.

Jay P · 06-09-2008 12:12PM

An Fhile wrote: »

Pipe down junior, you're too young to be drinking anyways!

Hey, you've been giving me a hard time lately. It's not my fault I look forty!

jeremyquinn · 06-09-2008 12:59PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Yea have each bottle or can tagged with an RFID tag. (Tesco already tag wines & spirits over e10 value with RFID security) When you purchase your booze you swipe your National ID card along with the tagged booze into the system and they know exactly where the booze was bough and who bought it. If you drive under the Westlink gantry after a large purchase the aurthorities will assume you are going to an unauthorised party to sell the stuff and will follow you :eek:

These sheep would not even see the reality you have stated.

Thw whole booze argument is a joke anyway. You can buy 6 cans of Druids for €8, however you cannot feed the familt for less than €20.

Just like the soviet union, queue all day for a bit of bread, get a bottle of vodka in 2 minutes.

We are moving into a total surveillance society, cashless, where every move you make will be tracked. But the rabble still think they are free.

Funny loophole in undrerage drinking, ordering booze over phone with credit cards.

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