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Pavilions Shopping Centre

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Rashers72


    Will the Swords M+S be bigger then Mary st/Henry st?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    M&S confirmed yesterday that they will open their biggest Irish store (12,000 sq m) in phase three of The Pavillions (planning for which will be applied for early next year)

    Where did you hear this?

    On a side note the new Zara is tiny!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Where did you hear this?
    They announced it yesterday as a major retail conference in the UK, it was also report in the Irish Times today.
    Rashers72 wrote: »
    Will the Swords M+S be bigger then Mary st/Henry st?
    As per earlier post it'll be their biggest in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 I8poop4U


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    M&S confirmed yesterday that they will open their biggest Irish store (12,000 sq m) in phase three of The Pavillions (planning for which will be applied for early next year)

    Next march Tommy Hilfiger, Espirit, Bertoni, Champion Sports and Yo Sushui will open in phase two.

    At present apparently 150,000 shoppers shop there per week.

    Esprit and Bertoni are open


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    I8poop4U wrote: »
    Esprit and Bertoni are open
    Very good - it was just copied from The Irish Times.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    From today's Irish Times:

    House of Fraser is to open its third Irish store at The Pavilions shopping centre in Swords, Co Dublin......
    Marks & Spencer will be the second anchor store in the next phase of The Pavilions where it will have its largest Irish outlet of 12,077 sq m (130,000 sq ft).

    A planning application is to be lodged early next year for an extension of 55,740 sq m (600,000 sq ft), bringing retail space in The Pavilions to more than 92,903 sq m (1 million sq ft).


    So it's not actually definite, if planning permission hasn't been given yet. The article also states that it will be completed by 2012.

    All this spells yet more construction hassle for Swords.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    MMMMMMMMMM, Should i increase credit card limit now or later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Application for planning for phase 3 (building over the existing car parks) went in last Thursday the 28th August.

    F08A/1057 is the planning number, the text is a bit long winded but may as well put it up for what it's worth, I've highlighted the important bits.
    A 7-year permission for development at this site. The proposed development comprises the construction of Pavilions Phase 3, a mixed-use town centre development amounting to c.272,637 sq.m. total Gross Floor Area (GFA) and accommodated in buildings ranging in height from 3 to 10 storeys over three levels of enclosed basement car parking, with an associated network of open, sheltered and enclosed streets and spaces. The proposed development includes the following elements: A total of c.124,119 sq.m. GFA of mixed use retail, commercial and community uses (including ancillary areas), broken down as follows: - 137 no. retail units (c. 63,843 sq.m. GFA), including 2 no. retail anchor units (Anchor Unit No. 1 measuring c.11,284 sq.m. and Anchor Unit No. 2 measuring c.12,080 sq.m., gross floor area), including ancillary storage and staff facilities, generally located at Levels -1 to +3; 35 no. restaurant/cafe units (c.4,942 sq.m. GFA), generally located at Levels 0 to +3; 1 no. public house of c.696 sq.m. GFA located at Level +1 and Level +2; Office block measuring c.15,593 sq.m. GFA, located in the eastern part of the site, with frontage to the R132. Office accommodation extends from Level +4 to Level +9, over office entrance lobbies from Level 0 to Level +3: 2 no. childcare facilities of c.478 sq.m. and c.266 sq.m. GFA respectively, located at Level +4/Level+5 and Levels +1 respectively: 2 no. community rooms of c.94 sq.m. and c. 318 sq.m. GFA respectively located at Level +1: 1 no. radio station of c.130 sq.m. GFA, located at Level +4: 1 no. medical centre of c. 1,644 sq.m. GFA located at Levels +1 to +3: A management suite for the development measuring c. 455 sq.m. GFA, located at Level +2: Ancillary backup areas of c. 35,660 sq.m. including foodcourt seating areas, communications/control/security rooms, cleaner storage, public toilets, first-aid room, plant rooms, substations, switch rooms, bicycle stores, bin stores, etc, generally located at Levels -2 to +4 and: Other associated areas, including service cores, voids, etc. measuring c. 16,747 sq.m. A total of 191 no. residential units (c.23,810 sq.m. GFA), generally located at Levels OM to +9, comprising 23 no. 1-bedroom units, 140 no. 2-bedroom units and 28 no. 3-bedroom units in a mix of apartments and duplexes. Private and landscaped semi-private open space to serve the residential use, provided by a mix of balconies, terraces, roof terraces and courtyards. Ancillary additional residential storage for bulky items and bicycle parking is provided. The residential units are arranged generally in 3 no. areas within the site. 131 no. units (including 18 no. 1 bed apartment units, 100 no. 2 bed apartment units and 13 no. 3 bed apartment units) are located in the northern part of the site at the junction of the R132 and Malahide Road, accommodated in blocks extending from Level 0M to Level +8. Each unit is provided with private open space in the form of balconies and/or terraces. Residential car parking is available at basement level. Bicycle parking, bin storage and remote storage for apartments is provided at Level +1 & Level +4. Access to the residential units is by way of a residential access core from basement and surface levels. 31 no. units (including 29 no. 2 bed apartment units and 2 no. 3 bed duplex units) are located in the eastern part of the site, accommodated in blocks extending from Level +4 to Level +7. Each unit is provided with private open space in the form of balconies and/or terraces. Residential car parking is available at basement level. Bicycle parking, bin storage and remote storage for residential units is provided at Level +3. Access to the residential units is by way of a residential access core from basement and surface levels. 29 no. units (including 5 no. 1 bed apartment units, 8 no. 2 bed apartment units, 3 no. 2 bed duplex units, 12 no. 3 bed apartment units and 1 no. 3 bedroom duplex unit) are located in the southern part of the site, at the junction of the R132 and the southern site boundary, accommodated in blocks extending from Level+4 to Level +9. Each unit is provided with private open space in the form of balconies and/or terraces. Residential car parking is available at basement level. Bicycle parking, bin storage and remote storage for residential units is provided at Level +4. Access to the residential units is by way of a residential access core from basement and surface levels. And all associated ancillary areas and site works, including : Demolition of 3 no. habitable dwellings at No's 9, 10 & 11 Dublin Road (c.368 sq.m. GFA): Revisions to the layout and configuration of the existing Pavilions Shopping Centre, previously permitted under Planning Reg. Ref. F98A/1100 to provide for its integration with the proposed Pavilions Phase 3 development including demolition of existing areas of Phase 1 and Phase 2 at Level 0 to Level +3 (c. 3,877 sq.m. GFA). Creation of new internal network of open, sheltered and enclosed pedestrian streets to connect to the existing surrounding public footpath and road network. The proposed development will result in the creation of 5 no. new open and sheltered streets at Level +1 - primary streets called up as 'Central Street', 'The Rise' and secondary streets called up as 'Southern Street', Shop Street' and 'Retail Street'. At Level 0 streets shall generally be enclosed. Creation of new urban spaces, called up at 'Pavilions Place' and 'Malahide Place'. Replacement of 3 no. existing vehicular entrances with, 1 no. temporary construction entrance in place of the existing emergency entrance at the R132, and 3 no. new permanent vehicular entrances and associated access roads for use during construction and operational phases, comprising 1 no. new left in/left-out vehicular access off the R132 on the eastern site boundary, 1 no. vehicular access off the Malahide Road on the northern site boundary and 1 no. vehicular access off the Dublin Road on the western site boundary. The proposed development will tie in with infrastructure works, approved by Fingal County Council in accordance with Part 8 of the Planning & Development Regulations 2001-2007, to realign and upgrade the existing R132 to accommodate access to Pavilions Phase 3 car parking areas in advance of Metro North. 3,145 no. new car parking spaces over Level -2, Level -1, Level -1M, Level 0 and Level 0M, including 2,819 no. covered car parking spaces and 326 no. open car parking spaces. Residential covered car parking of c. 5,880 sq.m. and non-residential covered car parking 102,081 sq.m. 625 no. new bicycle parking spaces, to be provided throughout the development, to cater for both retail./commercial/community and residential uses. All ancillary areas including circulation space, service routes and yards, storage areas, commercial and residential refuse storage, roof plant and plant rooms, meter room, 18 no. electricity substations, etc. All site excavation, demolition, landscaping and ancillary development works. All on a site measuring c.7.46 ha, currently occupied by existing surface car parking, circulation and service areas associated with Pavilions Shopping Centre, open lands and 3no. existing dwellings, and bounded by the Malahide Road and Longlands to the north, by The Paddocks and Carlton Court residential estates and associated public open space to the south, by the R132 Regional Road (formerly the N1) to the east, and by the existing Pavilions Shopping Centre and Dublin Road to the west. An Environment Impact Statement (EIS) will be submitted to the Planning Authority with the planning application.

    The last part in bold refers to this from FCC

    http://www.fingalcoco.ie/Roads/SchemesPreviouslyonDisplayfor2008/SWORDSTOWNCENTRECARPARKACCESSSCHEME/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    Application for planning for phase 3 (building over the existing car parks) went in last Thursday the 28th August.

    F08A/1057 is the planning number, the text is a bit long winded but may as well put it up for what it's worth, I've highlighted the important bits.



    The last part in bold refers to this from FCC

    http://www.fingalcoco.ie/Roads/SchemesPreviouslyonDisplayfor2008/SWORDSTOWNCENTRECARPARKACCESSSCHEME/

    It is supposed to look like this when finished. Pedestrian streets covered over with a glass roof.......... Looks good

    hof.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    And this is were the extention will go if the plans go through for the new M&S

    MS.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭PCros


    And this is were the extention will go if the plans go through for the new M&S

    Ok where will the car park go??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    PCros wrote: »
    Ok where will the car park go??
    Not sure ;- underground maybe; or the most obvious place would be across the road (with a tunnel under it to the shopping centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    PCros wrote: »
    Ok where will the car park go??
    Not sure ;- underground maybe; or the most obvious place would be across the road (with a tunnel under it to the shopping centre.

    It's all covered in my post above.
    3,145 no. new car parking spaces over Level -2, Level -1, Level -1M, Level 0 and Level 0M, including 2,819 no. covered car parking spaces and 326 no. open car parking spaces


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,331 ✭✭✭Splinter


    looks well, only bit worrying me is carparking while they build all this new stuff... its gonna be a bit manic for a long time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    splinter wrote: »
    looks well, only bit worrying me is carparking while they build all this new stuff... its gonna be a bit manic for a long time...
    Half of the ground space of phase 3 currently is unused so it should be no problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    yipppeeeeeeeeeeee :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭jdivision


    The plan is also to link up with the Penneys development when it is completed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭u2gooner


    Pavilions is already linked up to the Swords Central shopping centre (Penneys development)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    http://www.fingal-independent.ie/news/new-phase-set-to-create-4000-jobs-1473868.html
    New phase set to create 4,000 jobs

    Thursday September 11 2008

    Some 4,000 jobs will be created in the Pavilions Shopping Centre when its next phase is completed, plans for which were unveiled last week.

    Chartered Land lodged its planning application for the €1 billion development, which will see over 100 retail units, two major department stores, nearly 200 residential units and four blocks of office space being delivered to the Fingal capital.

    A further 3,000 jobs will be provided during construction of the centre, which is expected to be completed in 2013. According to the developers, the plans will reflect Fingal County Council’s overall masterplan for Swords - the creation of a new 100,000-populated city, with improved facilities and amenities.

    ‘We have been particularly conscious of ensuring that our plans for Swords Pavilions are totally in keeping with and supportive of the evolving plans that Fingal County Council has for Swords,’ Chartered Land, chief executive Dominic Deeny said.

    ‘We are keenly aware of the needs of this part of North County Dublin which is set to continue its population growth well into the future. ‘While our expansion plans could well stand alone on their own merits, they will be all the stronger in the context of the many developments envisaged within the masterplan.’

    The expansion will incorporate a number of new naturally-ventilated public streets, meeting places and exhibition spaces, all of which will be covered by a high-level glass roof structure.

    Central to the expansion will be the inclusion of over 40 new restaurants and street cafés, which will create a new social and cultural district for Swords.

    Both Marks & Spencer and House of Fraser are both set to be part of the scheme, while there are also plans for a medical centre, crèches, community rooms and a daycare centre and improved public transport provisions.

    ‘We believe the Pavilions is well on its way to becoming the destination of choice among shoppers in north Dublin and further afield and we are delighted that both M&S and House of Fraser have confirmed that they will be opening at Swords Pavilions,’

    Mr Deeny added. ‘Both will offer consumers an incredible choice of quality brands and will further highlight Swords Pavilions’ credentials as it steps up to regional centre status.’

    ‘We have been optimising our operations for some time and will continue to do so to meet the needs of the business.’ According to the company, Swords Laboratories is the ‘launch site’ for many of the new healthcare treatments it develops and it is one of the ‘key suppliers’ of bulk pharmaceuticals to finishing plants around the world.

    ‘All workers affected by the decision have been notified and discussions in relation to these changes are ongoing with employees and their representatives,’ the statement continued. ‘The Department of Enterprise Trade and Employment, IDA Ireland and all other relevant bodies have been notified of the decision.’

    Last October, the Fingal Independent exclusively revealed fears over job security, when employees told of the ‘uncertainty among staff’ concerning their futures. BMS responded by stressing the ‘promising future’ ahead of the Swords plant.

    ‘There are no plans to close this site, and at this point in time, there are no plans to reduce the workforce at Swords,’ the company said last year. A statement on behalf of the company was also read out to county councillors at the October meeting of Fingal County Council. It stated that there was ‘no plans to close the site’ and ‘no plans to reduce the workforce at Swords’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Ground floor plans. The the other various levels match the same shape with another floor of retail and underground levels of parking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    Ground floor plans. The the other various levels match the same shape with another floor of retail and underground levels of parking.

    Very intersting - looks absolutely massive!

    Very limited vehicular access though by the looks of things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 CatLady1


    Hi everyone,

    Just incase anyone's interested, I've heard there's a H&M opening in the Pavilions aswell. I for one am delighted :D. Needs a few more clothes shops in my opinion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,094 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    splinter wrote: »
    only bit worrying me is carparking
    A bit off topic but does anyone else think that the underground car parking in Penny's is an awful design. I sometimes get the impression that the car park was lined before the support pillars were installed. Loads of spaces are unuseable because of the intrusion of the pillars and the place seems to be covered in water anytime I'm there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭santry_goonshow


    CatLady1 wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    Just incase anyone's interested, I've heard there's a H&M opening in the Pavilions aswell. I for one am delighted :D. Needs a few more clothes shops in my opinion!

    Thats the point. I never buy clothes anywhere north of the Mary Street. Now I can. A few decent restaurants wouldn't go amiss either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭santry_goonshow


    A bit off topic but does anyone else think that the underground car parking in Penny's is an awful design. I sometimes get the impression that the car park was lined before the support pillars were installed. Loads of spaces are unuseable because of the intrusion of the pillars and the place seems to be covered in water anytime I'm there.

    If you want to see how a carpark should be laid out look at the one on the corner of Cathal Brugha ST and Marlboro ST. They park the carks diagonally and keep a door width between each one. I reckon Councils don't enforce the number of spaces that are applied for. I bet if you could get hold of the drawings for Penneys you would find that theres fewer allowed.. so they prolly cram extra ones in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Redpunto


    CatLady1 wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    Just incase anyone's interested, I've heard there's a H&M opening in the Pavilions aswell. I for one am delighted :D. Needs a few more clothes shops in my opinion!

    End of November if I remember right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Was in there today, sign said 18th IIRC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    I see the masses are flocking to the recently opened Starbucks, how exciting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    I see the masses are flocking to the recently opened Starbucks, how exciting.

    What an over-rated place


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,094 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Is that the one above Hughes and Hughes?


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