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College Fees

  • 19-01-2002 09:39AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭


    Wasn't exactly sure on which forum to post.

    I was just wondering if someone could confirm for a friend that with free fees initive, assuming you meet the requirements, you don't pay course fees?
    Now, AFAIR, if you decided to drop out before a certain date, if you applied to a new course next year, your first year fees would be paid again, but if you left after that date, you would have to pay first year fees in any new course, but from 2nd year on, your fees would be paid? That said, what if you re-registered for the 2nd term but drop out? If you apply to a new course next year, are your first years fees paid? Is there any way around this?

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Afaik, the free fees applies to 4 separate years in college. Ie, it'll pay for one occurrence of each year only. If you drop out in first year, you have to pay for another ocurrence of first year, but the other years are still paid for. If you drop out/repeat second year, you have to pay for second year again yourself, but 3rd and 4th year fees are still intact. If your course is shorter than 4 years, tough. I'm not sure what the story is with courses > 4 years. And that's all afaik. :) 80p prolly knows it all :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Mixie


    Thanks for the quick reply Seamus :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭chernobyl


    What fees?
    How much are they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    Your both right there...

    As Mixie said if you stop doing a course or a year(ie. 2nd) before a certain date and defer that course or year or reapply to a new course, your free fees for that year are intact. However if you go beyond a certain date- I think its in late October then you lose your free fees entitlement for that year and have to pay the fees in full the follwing year. NUI & Trinity fees are betw. £1500-£2500 on average.

    BTW, Seamus its not necessarily 4 years, its however long your "Undergraduate" course is. ie- 3 years for Arts or 5 years Physiotherapy for instance:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Ask Mr Opium


    What about this situation.

    You apply for a 2 year degree, completely do one year and fail and are reapplying for a new degree?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    AFAIK it only applies to your first primary degree, and becuase you would have been considered as failing(completing in essence) yourfirst pimary degree, you would not be able to claim free fees again. Contact the institution in question though for full clarification.

    However, if you are older than 23 or will be 23 when the next college term starts you are entitled to apply to any 3rd level course and college with a FULL FEES entitlement. Worth bearing in mind:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by 80project
    However, if you are older than 23 or will be 23 when the next college term starts you are entitled to apply to any 3rd level course and college with a FULL FEES entitlement. Worth bearing in mind:)

    This only applies to over 23's with no previous degree I assume. I can't finish this degree and then go get me an arts degree for free too? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    You can indeed :)

    Its a most underutilised concession. A friend of my sisters did Law in UCD and then went and did a commerce degree for free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    OMFG, I think then I shall sponge the system. Finish my degree at 22, work for a year, then go back and do a 2 year degree in something easy. Yuss!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭chernobyl


    I had a friend in college doing a degree, but he dropped out in like march, never did the exams, but he re-applied for a different course, but only had pay the normal admission fee of £3xx.

    so whats up?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    Dunno:confused:

    I know for certain a mate of mine who was doing commerce & french who dropped out in in January of 1st year and then reapplied to do Law had to pay his 1st year fees again.

    What University is this you are reffering to Chernobyl??
    It may have different regulations- Anything above AFAIK applies for the NUI's and Trinity at least:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭chernobyl


    Oh right, this guy was in WIT and reapplied for another course in WIT, but no extra fees.

    So the IT's are governed by different regualtions?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭b20uvkft6m5xwg


    I assume so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Mixie


    She didn't attend the course after the date (fee cutoff), but re-registered recently. She still hasn't attended a class since that date - if she could prove that somehow would it change anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Some Universities are nice about things like that, others won't let you away with anything. Even if she did prove she never attended, they might argue that costs were incurred in keeping a place for her in lectures/tutorials/practicals etc, so tough really, but you'd never know unless you asked. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Ask Mr Opium


    When would this €1800 need to be presented, on admissions day or later in the year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    I hope I never find out! ;)

    But, I'd presume you'd have to produce proof of payment of fees for the year on registration in the same way as the rest of us pay Non-tuition fees and levies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    how much is it to repeat a year, roughly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 plumlover


    what would the deal be if you started 1st yr but dropped out before you sat any exams?like november? Would you even have to pay for half a year when starting a new course in first yr again? I'm almost sure you don't have to pay for a whole yr.

    ta!:)


  • Posts: 17,735 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Early november - possibly you'd get full fees still. Did you drop out officially or just not turn up anymore? If the latter you'll run into trouble. Contact your previous college and where you're looking to go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 plumlover


    I dropped out officially. I will contact both and ask! Cheers!

    Oh and just for anyone who didn't know, your fees are tax refundable so get your folks to claim back your tax!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭WaldenByThoreua


    Could somebody answer this one!

    I'm starting RCSI on 29th and have just sent away for one recheck. If it is upgraded Ill be going to Trinity. If I drop out of RCSI in mid October will I be liable for fees from Trinity as Ive changed college?


  • Posts: 17,735 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No you wouldn't be liable for fees if you paid them before, although any fees that Trinity require you to pay (Sports Hall levy etc) you will have to pay. Besides, Trinity doesn't start 'til October!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭WaldenByThoreua


    Thanks! By fees you mean registration? So I'd just get my registration back from RCSI and pay the Trinity registration?


    ps Im and idiot, its just that I can learn stuff off so bear with me!


  • Posts: 17,735 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nope, the colleges would sort it out I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭WaldenByThoreua


    Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Steve Thomas


    some more detail please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 Ventura


    I was in a smilar position this time last year. I just missed my first choise course so i decided to appeal some of my exams. In the meantime i started another course in ucc. Anyway i was upgraded in two subjects and then had more than enough points for my first choise at rcsi. I immediatly dropped out of ucc after the upgrades came out[2nd week of october]. Although i was offered a place i was told i couldn't start until the following year, even though both the rcsi and trinners academic years don't begin until october. I can only imagine getting into a course after an upgrade depends if someone drops out to make space before core modules are missed.
    With regards to the college entry fees, i only got half of the registration fee back from ucc while the capitation fee was deemed non refundable :mad:. This policy may be 'unique' to ucc, i don't know.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 1,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael Collins


    You can indeed :)

    Its a most underutilised concession. A friend of my sisters did Law in UCD and then went and did a commerce degree for free.

    Are you sure about this one? I would have thought like seamus - after your first free degree that's it, you pay full EU fees from then on? Have you a link to any information on this one?

    Cheers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭WaldenByThoreua


    Ventura wrote: »
    With regards to the college entry fees, i only got half of the registration fee back from ucc while the capitation fee was deemed non refundable :mad:. This policy may be 'unique' to ucc, i don't know.

    What the capitation fee? You dont have to pay fees this year do you because you've previously attended uni?


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