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National ID Card

  • 19-08-2008 11:49AM
    #1
    DUMBOBLONDE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭


    Looks like Paddy and Majella are going to be getting national ID cards soon.

    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/new-state-id-cards-on-way-1446912.html

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article4493788.ece



    Just as planned they have targeted the weaker members of society as the first step towards a national id card.

    Those on welfare and pensioners will be required to take the card. No doubt this will combat that ever present "terrorism". It will then be so "effective" the rest of us should also get it. Great fun.

    Just like the 7 years of degrading searches at Dublin airport, where so far they have turned up a grand total of zero "bad guys".

    As for welfare fraud, are you having a laugh???

    No doubt Paddy and Majella will smile and proclaim "its great", I love having my picture taken, and after all "I have nothing to hide".


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  • #2
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Brennan is obviously still taking an active part in this from his grave...


    Article from The Sunday Times August 14, 2005


    :pac:


  • #3
    Steve_o
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Looks like Paddy and Majella are going to be getting national ID cards soon.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article555199.ece

    Just as planned they have targeted the weaker members of society as the first step towards a national id card.

    Those on welfare and pensioners will be required to take the card. No doubt this will combat that ever present "terrorism". It will then be so "effective" the rest of us should also get it. Great fun.

    Just like the 7 years of degrading searches at Dublin airport, where so far they have turned up a grand total of zero "bad guys".

    As for welfare fraud, are you having a laugh???

    No doubt Paddy and Majella will smile and proclaim "its great", I love having my picture taken, and after all "I have nothing to hide".


    FAIL

    This is 3 years old....


  • #4
    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Looks like Paddy and Majella are going to be getting national ID cards soon.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article555199.ece

    Just as planned they have targeted the weaker members of society as the first step towards a national id card.

    Those on welfare and pensioners will be required to take the card. No doubt this will combat that ever present "terrorism". It will then be so "effective" the rest of us should also get it. Great fun.

    Just like the 7 years of degrading searches at Dublin airport, where so far they have turned up a grand total of zero "bad guys".

    As for welfare fraud, are you having a laugh???

    No doubt Paddy and Majella will smile and proclaim "its great", I love having my picture taken, and after all "I have nothing to hide".

    maybe "Paddy" and "Majella" will post "without" "using" "quotes" "around" "every" "other" "word" "like" "it" "is" "making" "some" "kind" "of" "point".


  • #5
    javaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    ^Beaten to it.

    @OP if you're going to spout this nonsense, can you at least make sure it's up to date nonsense. Look at Run_to_da_hills for instance. He usually uses an up to date article from which to concoct his conspiracy theories.

    You're just not really trying are you.


  • #6
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,815 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    FAIL.


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  • #7
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,143 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    I've still yet to see a decent argument against a national ID card.


  • #8
    DUMBOBLONDE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭DUMBOBLONDE


    the new irish man really is a goner.

    Are we all in this togeather?

    http://www.herald.ie/opinion/columnists/sinead-ryan/national-id-cards-will-make-all-our-lives-a-little-bit-easier-1447720.html


  • #9
    Wreck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Brennan is obviously still taking an active part in this from his grave...
    :pac:

    Please mods, for the sake of the little ones, move this to the Zombie Survival Forum.
    chopperbyrne wrote: »
    I've still yet to see a decent argument against a national ID card.

    That's because it's a good idea


  • #10
    javaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    chopperbyrne wrote: »
    I've still yet to see a decent argument against a national ID card.

    Eh haven't you read any of the threads about it here? They are going to be "mandatory". There will be random spot checks on the street with "jail sentences" for non-carrying and you'll have to show it every time you buy a newspaper.

    They are just a precursor to RFID chips "implanted" "under our skin"! Just make sure you get decent brand tinfoil for your hats everybody. The Tesco brand foil has been "compromised" by government forces. It now has millions of microscopic holes which let your "brainwaves" out and more importantly their brainwaves in!

    And as for the "lizards".....


  • #11
    Sherifu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Run_to_da_hills alt account?

    Needs more salt in any case.


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  • #12
    DUMBOBLONDE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭DUMBOBLONDE


    chopperbyrne wrote: »
    I've still yet to see a decent argument against a national ID card.

    Would you be willing hand over all DNA and biometric information also?


  • #13
    javaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Wreck wrote: »
    Please mods, for the sake of the little ones, move this to the Zombie Survival Forum.

    Genius. Ok so you're in Woodies and a former Fianna Fail minister suddenly appears baying for your brains and proposing a national ID card system.

    Husqvarna's are out of stock btw. What do you do?


  • #14
    Steve_o
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    the new irish man really is a goner.

    Are we all in this togeather?

    http://www.herald.ie/opinion/columnists/sinead-ryan/national-id-cards-will-make-all-our-lives-a-little-bit-easier-1447720.html

    Still no argument against it i'm afraid...

    Thats 2 Fails!!!
    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Would you be willing hand over all DNA and biometric information also?

    Where does it say anything about this?

    You're wearing a tin foil hat aren't you??


  • #15
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,143 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Would you be willing hand over all DNA and biometric information also?

    If it meant that in the event of a serious accident and I'm taken to hospital needing urgent medical attention they have all the information they need about me already on file, then yes I'd happily hand it over.


  • #16
    javaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Would you be willing hand over all DNA and biometric information also?

    Chuckle. That feckin IBTS has been collecting our DNA for years. B@stards!

    And they have the gall to do it in public and everything. They even run ads on telly. These people belong to a "special club" alright. The club of sheep who'll do exactly what their "elected" government tells them!


  • #17
    javaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Sherifu wrote: »
    Run_to_da_hills alt account?

    Needs more salt in any case.

    That's a bit harsh now. RTDH is way better at this than DUMBOBLONDE.


  • #18
    Steve_o
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    fitz0 wrote: »
    Ive been wondering that too. What exactly is bad about these proposed cards?

    So far i've seen nothing bad about them!


  • #19
    Wreck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    javaboy wrote: »
    Genius. Ok so you're in Woodies and a former Fianna Fail minister suddenly appears baying for your brains and proposing a national ID card system.

    Husqvarna's are out of stock btw. What do you do?

    Depends which Fianna Failer it is. I mean if it's Brennan I pull my trusty samurai sword (never leave home without it folks) and lop off his head. If its Haughey I run screaming in terror as he is likely to be some kind of vampire/zombie cross breed and no match for mortal weapons.


  • #20
    DUMBOBLONDE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭DUMBOBLONDE


    chopperbyrne wrote: »
    If it meant that in the event of a serious accident and I'm taken to hospital needing urgent medical attention they have all the information they need about me already on file, then yes I'd happily hand it over.

    Always look at the bright side of life.........................

    There are two sides to every coin, my friend.


  • #21
    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Wreck wrote: »
    Depends which Fianna Failer it is. I mean if it's Brennan I pull my trusty samurai sword (never leave home without it folks) and lop off his head.

    Fool!
    You cannot kill that which does not live!
    FF-Zombies are unstopable.

    Also, i like where this thread is going.


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  • #22
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,143 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Always look at the bright side of life.........................

    There are two sides to every coin, my friend.

    Enlighten me so.


  • #23
    javaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Wreck wrote: »
    Depends which Fianna Failer it is. I mean if it's Brennan I pull my trusty samurai sword (never leave home without it folks) and lop off his head. If its Haughey I run screaming in terror as he is likely to be some kind of vampire/zombie cross breed and no match for mortal weapons.

    tbh I would have run screaming from CJH had I seen him when he was alive, never mind undead.

    If it was Noel Dempsey now, I'd probably take pity on him and let him bite my brains. God knows he needs some.


  • #24
    Mahatma coat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Now I have an image of a Zombie CJH in a tatered Charvet shirt,arms outstretched moaning

    Maaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaa

    :D

    Shine on OP ;)


  • #25
    Steve_o
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Always look at the bright side of life.........................

    There are two sides to every coin, my friend.

    Harvey Dent begs to differ....:rolleyes:


  • #26
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Looks like Paddy and Majella are going to be getting national ID cards soon.

    http://www.herald.ie/national-news/new-state-id-cards-on-way-1446912.html

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article4493788.ece



    Just as planned they have targeted the weaker members of society as the first step towards a national id card.

    Those on welfare and pensioners will be required to take the card. No doubt this will combat that ever present "terrorism". It will then be so "effective" the rest of us should also get it. Great fun.

    Just like the 7 years of degrading searches at Dublin airport, where so far they have turned up a grand total of zero "bad guys".

    As for welfare fraud, are you having a laugh???

    No doubt Paddy and Majella will smile and proclaim "its great", I love having my picture taken, and after all "I have nothing to hide".
    You must have been hiding under a rock for the couple of weeks :rolleyes:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055349461&highlight=national+id


  • #27
    barnacle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭barnacle


    Will Yore Ma be getting one?


  • #28
    Kernel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    barnacle wrote: »
    Will Yore Ma be getting one?

    That I can't answer, but I know your ma will be. :cool:


  • #29
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    DUMBOBLONDE wrote: »
    Just like the 7 years of degrading searches at Dublin airport,


    eh :confused:


  • #30
    One-Day-Juande
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭One-Day-Juande


    It's an old argument but the people who will be most affected by ID cards are those that have something to hide.

    I worked in an off license for a good while and we had a very strict policy on ID. We'd tell everybody no ID no service. Most people would accept this naturally getting a bit pissed of having to go home etc.

    The only people we had any real hassle from was the same scumbags who would turn up and try and make out they had shown it last week which they hadn't. We were 99 per cent certain that they were over 18 but no proof. They were local and it would have been no bother for them to get something.

    I was confused about this until my manager pointed out that they didn't any ID on them in case they got picked up by the police and it all made sense then.

    I mean what does the average person have to worry about being identified by the police?


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  • #31
    hellbent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭hellbent


    Can you people not see beyond the "ID card good, dissenters obviously have something to hide" train of thought? It's not the ID element that's the problem, but the intent to cram loads of private data about the holder onto it, eventually.

    It's about the relative ease to hack into 'restricted' parts of the RFID chip - demonstated and documented already.

    It's about how you can be 'detected' and have the card info read at relatively remote distances, over 100 meters afaik, with latest active RFID chips, and by people who don't simply want to know who you are.

    Most of all, it's about the possibility of serious fines being imposed for not carrying your card, at all times. I think its a lousy idea, and unnecessary even in today's world, and its being done simply because it can be, not for a good enough reason.


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