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  • #62
    Fyr.Fytr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    I just got an infraction from the Motors section :(
    Another badge of honour for you so


  • #63
    TheNog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    I just got an infraction from the Motors section :(

    how many is that now?? :D


  • #64
    Marcus.Aurelius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    We should get Karlitosway1978 a new set of decorative epaulettes to celebrate.


  • #65
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    I think thats 3 infractions and 2 week bans but none from emergency services!

    I take it as a saign that Im winning now must go have a look at the thread seeing as the my posts have been mysteriously vanishing:D


  • #66
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,575 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    I was wondering what happened that post Karlito....
    Did you delete it?


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  • #67
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,575 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Too late.:(


  • #68
    CLADA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    So K..1978 does a paul galvin on it and slaps the notebook out of the mods hand. We're down a man as the nog steps in and +1's the bold boys actions, luckily the thread is locked before anybody else is banned. Even the chief was getting in on the act:eek:.

    Lads! Stay away from it, goin' over there and posting on that forum mixing with those crazies, you're asking for trouble.
    Its akin to being in Copperface Jacks at about 1am and deciding to head down to the George...you know its going to end in tears.

    Next thing you'll be posting on after hours:(


  • #69
    Fyr.Fytr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    CLADA wrote: »
    So K..1978 does a paul galvin on it and slaps the notebook out of the mods hand. We're down a man as the nog steps in and +1's the bold boys actions, luckily the thread is locked before anybody else is banned. Even the chief was getting in on the act:eek:.

    Lads! Stay away from it, goin' over there and posting on that forum mixing with those crazies, you're asking for trouble.
    Its akin to being in Copperface Jacks at about 1am and deciding to head down to the George...you know its going to end in tears.

    Next thing you'll be posting on after hours:(

    The funniest thing ive read in ages *bows* well done to you sir, well done


  • #70
    yayamark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭yayamark


    Pssh! infraction from motor section sissy:rolleyes:

    I was banned from the legal section for the week:pac:
    And an infraction from the limerick city forum:cool:


  • #71
    CLADA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    yayamark wrote: »
    Pssh! infraction from motor section sissy:rolleyes:

    I was banned from the legal section for the week:pac:
    And an infraction from the limerick city forum:cool:

    "A boy da kid!!:D"


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  • #72
    Steve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,575 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    In fairness, Karlito posted the same thing earlier and a mod deleted it - probably to save handing out a ban. I tried to PM him the second time but was too late.
    Lads, there's rules about insulting people anywhere on boards - it's also easy to stay within those rules and still get your insult across. Karlito was banned for calling a spade a spade when what he should have said was 'your post is spade like and your attitude is spade like' - think of it like giving evidence for a road traffic offence and getting the wording right!

    FWIW I totally agree with what Karlito said - there were some very idiotic statements made in that thread.

    On the bright side, it's only a day - Peasant's not the worst of 'em.


  • #73
    Fyr.Fytr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Its like poking an angry bear with a stick, hell only com back bigger stronger and pi**ed off lol


  • #74
    Paulzx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    CLADA wrote: »

    Next thing you'll be posting on after hours:(



    Now thats just crazy talk!!


  • #75
    CLADA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0819/firearm.html

    Once again we have a typical example of Gardai out revenue collecting. This is the type of thing that outrages so many on the motors and after hours forum.

    Obviously the men in question were slightly late in renewing their firearms licence so the local plods go out to collect the money. The locals panicked slightly as is normal when the filth arrive to violate your human rights.
    So we end up with a cross border chase probably involving a number of police cars from each side of the border.

    Could they not be out catching drug dealers.:rolleyes:


  • #76
    Fyr.Fytr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    They would have got away with it too if it wasnt for those meddeling guards



    Those crazy cops when will they ever learn :rolleyes:


  • #77
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    SteveC wrote: »
    I was wondering what happened that post Karlito....
    Did you delete it?

    Have to disagree on your opinion of a certain person and the reason I was fighting was because the word I used was completely 100% correct, look it up in a dictionary.

    Its not mine or the dictionary's fault if someone finds the word insulting. Its like calling someone a bastard. Its its true its true.


  • #78
    CLADA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055359770

    And they're off again, its up to 4 pages since it started at 1am. Was there a full moon last night?

    Just had a quick look because I don't like to overexpose myself in case its infectious, but when I read this:
    stepbar wrote: »
    I remember approaching a checkpoint (if you could call it that, two Guards standing on the Dundrum bypass with no visable backup :rolleyes:) I turned around and went up the Main St of Dundrum. Not because I had anything to hide but because I was pissed off at the Guards amaterish attempt at a checkpoint.

    and just as the laughter pains subsided I read this:
    ntlbell wrote: »
    I've "dodged" them on occasion simply because I was in a hurry and the line was going to slow.
    smart cops would only have them on one way streets

    My God:eek: I never realised these type of people are out driving cars.


  • #79
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    Now Clada,
    Before you say you never thought these people existed just think back to all the people you have dealt with over the years. Peoples stupidity and arrogance knows no limits. They really do believe were low intelligent recluses that no nothing of the 'real' world or their cunning tactics too avoid us.

    Lucky for us, 'real' criminals are even thicker than us or we would never arrest anyone because clearly the good folks on motors are way too smart for us thick fools ;)


  • #80
    FGR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭FGR


    "Lucky for us, 'real' criminals are even thicker than us or we would never arrest anyone because clearly the good folks on motors are way too smart for us thick fools ;)"

    Never have I heard wise words spoken..!

    ...

    Wait a minute!! ;)


  • #81
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    metman wrote: »
    I couldn't really care less what people like the above are saying about the police.

    Public forums like this are usually a way for those with a grudge to say what they wouldn't say to your face. In my experience the people who bad mouth the police are (1) those with criminal records (coincidence?) (2) left-wing types who do drugs but call their habit 'recreational' (3) motorists who think road traffic offences aren't really 'offences' (4) those who wanna be cops but can't make the grade, and (5) as*sholes in general.

    I don't want to spend my free time reading the rubbish the above groups spout, so count me out.

    (6) lawyers (and not just defence lawyers)
    (7) people who have been wrongly accused
    (8) people who have been mistreated in garda custody
    (9) people who have been wronged by a garda (for example, there was a Sgt in Store Street convicted last year of stealing cars)
    (10) people who feel that their complaints are not being treated seriously when reported
    (11) people (especially victims of sexual offences) who feel that they are being treated with hostility or contempt
    (12) society in general when garda abuses come to light
    (13) society in general when they feel that they are not being protected

    I think a lot of people have complaints to make about the gardai, some valid, some not so much.


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  • #82
    CLADA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    I think a lot of people have complaints to make about the gardai, some valid, some not so much.

    So all are valid? :confused:


  • #83
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    CLADA wrote: »
    So all are valid? :confused:

    As I said, some are, others not so much.


  • #84
    CLADA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    As I said, some are, others not so much.

    Thats whats confusing, are you saying all complaints against Gardai are valid?

    I would say, some are, others not so much and then the ones that are vexatious.

    But I'm sure you were including those under "others not so much".


  • #85
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    CLADA wrote: »
    Thats whats confusing, are you saying all complaints against Gardai are valid?

    I would say, some are, others not so much and then the ones that are vexatious.

    But I'm sure you were including those under "others not so much".

    Is it really that confusing, or do you know exactly what I meant but you want to be pedantic about it?

    In response to metman's point that the people who complain about the gardai are criminals, failed cops and "as*holes" I only wanted to put the counter argument that there are also valid criticisms of gardai to be made by honest citizens.


  • #86
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Is it really that confusing, or do you know exactly what I meant but you want to be pedantic about it?

    In response to metman's point that the people who complain about the gardai are criminals, failed cops and "as*holes" I only wanted to put the counter argument that there are also valid criticisms of gardai to be made by honest citizens.

    Obviously but whats valid? A person who 'thinks' they know whats going on, what the Gardai are doing and how best to do it? Thats called ignorance and / or arrogance.

    FYI, I have yet too see anyone post that they were mistreated when reporting sexual abuse or that they were mistreated while in custody. The threads that this thread relates to are whingers putting a spin on their own sob stories. the people that post in them are put in their place on a daily basis by people that arent even Gardai but have enough knowledge or simple cop on to know when someone is talking crap. They then sulk for a few days and post the exact same thing again in a different thread.

    Oh and the ombudsman cannot dismiss a complaint without investigating and sending a file to the DPP. Its telling that they are currently looking for that power as they freely admit they are getting tied up investigating bull**** complaints.


  • #87
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    Obviously but whats valid? A person who 'thinks' they know whats going on, what the Gardai are doing and how best to do it? Thats called ignorance and / or arrogance.

    Valid is when the complaint has substance. I also think it is quite arrogant for gardai to believe that only they can know how to do their jobs and that anyone who questions it or suggests a more correct approach is ignorant and/or arrogant. The classic example of a non garda who knows how gardai should do their job better than the gardai themselves is the DPP, or a prosecution lawyer. But the likes of Pat Shortt also have valid complaints against the gardai, and I think people are perfectly entitled to comment on what the gardai did there and to say that it was wrong. It is not ignorance or arrogance to criticise corrupt gardai is it?
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    FYI, I have yet too see anyone post that they were mistreated when reporting sexual abuse or that they were mistreated while in custody. The threads that this thread relates to are whingers putting a spin on their own sob stories. the people that post in them are put in their place on a daily basis by people that arent even Gardai but have enough knowledge or simple cop on to know when someone is talking crap. They then sulk for a few days and post the exact same thing again in a different thread.

    So you like to go around to threads on boards and call people whingers, that's fair enough. But the point I was making is that there are many valid reasons from disparate categories of people who will criticise gardai, so to assume that the only people who complain against gardai are criminals, failed cops and unpleasant people in general is incorrect.
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    Oh and the ombudsman cannot dismiss a complaint without investigating and sending a file to the DPP. Its telling that they are currently looking for that power as they freely admit they are getting tied up investigating bull**** complaints.

    I don't know why you mention this as I didn't say anything about the ombudsman, but in any event this is incorrect. Here is a link to the garda ombudsman's page detailing the different types of action they can take on a complaint. A file is only sent to the DPP if the case may warrant criminal prosecution. The Ombudsman regularly dismiss complaints if there is insufficient evidence.


  • #88
    CLADA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    But the likes of Pat Shortt also have valid complaints against the gardai,

    Did somebody seize his jumbo breakfast roll without a warrant?:D

    Only joking OP I know you mean Frank Shortt.


  • #89
    metman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭metman


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    The classic example of a non garda who knows how gardai should do their job better than the gardai themselves is the DPP, or a prosecution lawyer.

    I'd take issue you with you on this. The DPP (or Prosecutors in general) know little about operational police work other than what's covered by statute or set down in legal texts/operational manuals. Prosecutors are qualified criminal lawyers, not qualified police officers. I think you're getting confused there old chap.

    Conversely I've met some police officers who've had better legal knowledge than some prosecutors.


  • #90
    Worldismyidea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭Worldismyidea


    metman wrote: »
    I'd take issue you with you on this. The DPP (or Prosecutors in general) know little about operational police work other than what's covered by statute or set down in legal texts/operational manuals. Prosecutors are qualified criminal lawyers, not qualified police officers. I think you're getting confused there old chap.

    Conversely I've met some police officers who've had better legal knowledge than some prosecutors.

    The police act within a legal framework, do they not? Are you saying that aspects of operational procedure float outside the law?

    A major aspect of police work is the investigation of crime, right? This investigation is part of a process that culminates in a trial of offences. Surely, lawyers scrutinise the effectiveness of police work when they assess the legality or reliability of a given procedure. An illegal procedure can hardly be described as 'best practice'.


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  • #91
    metman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭metman


    Worldismyidea wrote: »
    The police act within a legal framework, do they not? Are you saying that aspects of operational procedure float outside the law?

    A major aspect of police work is the investigation of crime, right? This investigation is part of a process that culminates in a trial of offences. Surely, lawyers scrutinise the effectiveness of police work when they assess the legality or reliability of a given procedure. An illegal procedure can hardly be described as 'best practice'.

    :rolleyes: well seeing as how you're already doing a grand job misquoting me and jumping to your own conclusions, I'll leave you to answer your own loaded question.


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