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Beijing Olympic Games 2008

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    And Finland have taken the Women's Trap with Satu Makela Nummela winning by two birds from Zuzana Stefecekova of Slovakia and five from Corey Cogdell of the USA.

    Corey Cogdell had to go into a 4 wy shoot off to get the bronze and just made it by clipping the first clay where the others missed completely.

    It was a fairly close fought contest where there was doubt as to the winner right up to the second last shot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Tomorrow we have the Men's double trap and 50m Pistol. Both qualification rounds are at 9:00 Beijing time with the finals for the 50m pistol at 12:00 and the Double Trap at 15:00.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    India's Bindra wins gold in the Men's 10m Air Rifle
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    India's Abhinav Bindra won the gold medal. (Photo credit: Xinhua)

    (BEIJING, August 11) -- India's Abhinav Bindra won the gold medal in the Men's 10m Air Rifle in Beijing on August 11 with an incredible performance in the final. Bindra shot a total score of 700.5.

    China's Zhu Qinan, gold medalist at Athens 2004, won the silver medal with a total score of 699.7.

    The bronze medal was won by Finland's Henri Hakkinen, who was leading the field after the qualification round, but was unable to hold off Bindra and Zhu in the final. The Finnish shooter shot a total of 699.4.

    Hakkinen shot 598 in the qualification round, giving him a one point lead over Zhu. Bindra was one point further back with 596.

    Bindra signals his intentions early in the final, with a 10.7 on his first shot. None of Bindra's shots in the final dropped below 10.0.

    Hakkinen's performance in the final was solid, but it needed to be better. He averaged 10.14 per shot in the final, compared to Bindra's 10.45.

    Going into the last shot, Bindra and Hakkinen were tied for first place, but Bindra secured the gold medal with his best shot of the final, an outstanding 10.8.

    Conversely, Hakkinen's last shot was his worst, a lowly 9.7. This allowed Zhu to overcome Hakkinen and win the silver medal. Zhu shot 10.5 on his last shot.

    Zhu will be disappointed that did not become the first shooter to win two gold medals in the Men's 10m Air Pistol. However, he was unable to reproduce his best – Zhu holds the Olympic record for the final score in the event, the 702.7 that he shot at Athens 2004.

    Not an Anschutz this time round:
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Shooting Day 3 Review: Indian and Finnish surprises rule the day

    (BEIJING, August 11) -- Upsets marked the third day of competition in the Olympic Shooting tournament.

    India's Abhinav Bindra surprised all by winning the gold medal in the Men's 10m Air Rifle. Bindra shot a total of 700.5 to defeat favorite Zhu Qinan of China and Henri Hakkinen of Finland, who won the silver and bronze medals respectively.

    Bindra's gold medal is the first time that an Indian athlete has won an individual Olympic gold medal. India's previous eight gold medals were all won in Hockey.

    Athens 2004 gold medalist Zhu will be disappointed at not winning his second Olympic gold medal, but he has a lot more Olympic competition ahead of him -- Zhu is only 23 years old.

    At 25, Bindra is not much older than Zhu, so today's event could be the start of a promising rivalry between the shooters from the world's most populous countries.

    Bindra, who secured the gold medal with a 10.8 on his last shot, managed to block out the pressure of being India's first individual gold medalist.

    "I was trying to concentrate on shooting. I wasn't thinking about making history. I mean I was two points behind at one stage. I was just trying to concentrate. I just wanted to shoot well, I just wanted to shoot aggressively, and that's what I did," said Bindra.

    Zhu on the other hand, shot well below his best and was probably affected by the huge expectations placed on him to win gold.

    "My desire for getting another gold medal for my motherland was so strong that I was under so much stress before the Games," said Zhu.

    Finland's Satu Makela-Nummela won the gold medal in the Women's Trap, making her only the third Finnish woman to win an Olympic gold medal.

    To win gold, Makela-Nummela was forced to defeat Slovakia's Zuzana Stefecekova, who is a world recorder in the event.

    Makela-Nummela shot a final score of 91, two more than Stefecekova. The United States' Corey Cogdell won the bronze medal after winning a shoot-off.

    The gold medal was an open race after the two favorites, San Marino's Daniela Del Din and China's Liu Yingzi failed to make the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Shooting Day 4 Preview: A swag of stars to grace the shooting range

    (BEIJING, August 11) -- Tomorrow's Olympic Shooting competition will see gold medals handed out to the winners of the Men's 50m Pistol and the Men's Double Trap.

    Athens 2004 gold medalist Mikhail Nestruev of Russia will be looking for another gold medal in the Men's 50m Pistol, but will need to once again confront the Athens 2004 silver and bronze medalists, Jin Jong-oh of the Republic of Korea and Kim Jong-su of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

    The field actually has another couple of shooters who have won Olympic gold medals in the event - Sydney 2000 gold medalist Tanyu Kiriakov of Bulgaria and Barcelona 1992 gold medalist Kanstantsin Lukashyk of Belarus.

    Possible challengers to the Olympic medalists include Joao Costa of Portugal, Matsuda Tomoyuki of Japan and Lin Zhongzai of China.

    The United Arab Emirates' Ahmed Al Maktoum will look to defend the gold medal that he won in Men's Double Trap at Athens 2004. Al Maktoum won his country's first Olympic medal by setting an Olympic record in the qualification round and equaling Russell Mark of Australia's Olympic record for the final.

    Al Maktoum's main competition will come from Great Britain's Richard Faulds. Faulds won a gold medal in the event at Sydney 2000 and is currently World No. 1.

    Mark will also be competing tomorrow, representing Australia for the fifth time at the Olympic Games. Mark won the gold medal in the event at Atlanta 1996 and a silver medal at Sydney 2000. The experienced campaigner may cause an upset and defeat Al Maktoum and Faulds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    The 50m pistol was won by Jin Jong-oh of the Rep of Korea with a 563 and 97.4 in the final. Second was Kim Jong-su of the DPR of Korea with 563 and 97.2 (really close final obviously). Especially as third was taken by Tan Zongliang of China with 565 and 94.5!

    Remember that both of the Koreans (different Korea's obviously) were repectively 2nd and 3rd in the Men's Air Pistol.

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    In fact three more of the finalists were also on 563, one on 562 and 8th was 559.

    That's tight!

    Nestruev didn't make the final, finishing with a 552 in 24th. Lukashyk fared slightly better wih a 558 and 11th overall.

    No one came within an asses roar of Melentiev's record 581 set at the Moscow Olympics in 1980 incidentally with a Toz 35.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Heartbreak for Francesco D'Aniello of Italy in the Men's double trap. He went into the final with a 141, 4 behind Walton Eller of the USA and although he posted a better score of 46 against Eller's 45, it wasn't enough to secure gold.

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    After the final shots he collapsed on the ground and really the cameras should have left him to his grief but instead kept a close up on him as he sobbed his heart out.

    For anyone who thinks this stuff is easy, that alone should give some idea of the mountain that has to be climbed to get to the Olympics and the personal investment that goes along with competing.

    Third place went to Binyuan Hu of China with a 138 and 46. 4th went to Jeffrey Holguin of the USA, Russell Mark of Australia came 5th, Richard Faulds of the GB came 6th and Almaktoum came seventh, not making the final.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    The finals of both the shooting events will be shown on BBC stream 4 from 7pm to 8:15pm this evening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Tomorrow's event is the Women's 25m Pistol. For those who shot in the Rathdrum pistol shoot on the 18th May, this is the exact same competition and course of fire.

    It's 30 shots in 30 minutes on the precision target (the small one with the 50mm 10 ring) and then 30 shots (each shot in 3 seconds) on the rapid fire target (100mm 10 ring).

    The final (which will be televised) is then shot on the rapid fire target with 20 shots for each competitor in the 1 shot per 3 seconds time frame.

    The way it works is that you get a loading time of 1 minute for each 5 shot series. The red attention light comes on for seven seconds during which the pistol is in the ready position (45 degrees from the body, not touching the bench or table) and then the green light comes on for 3 seconds in which time you have to raise the pistol and fire one shot. This is repeated for five shots when there is another 1 minuite load period and the sequence repeats.

    The World record for this event is 594 out of 600 scored by Diana Iorgova of Bulgaria in 1994 and equalled by Luna Tao of China in 2002. The Olympic Record is 590 by Luna Tao set in Sydney 2000.

    This is a tough challenge. Raising the pistol and sighting it can take over two seconds, so there's no margin for error at all.

    People to watch in this event are Maria Grozdeva of Bulgaria and Gundeqmaa Otryad of Mongolia who have both been over 590 in the last four years. Grozdeva would be the favourite, having already got two Olympic Gold Medals in Sydney and Athens in this event and also being the holder of the Final World Record of 796.7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Chinese shooter blows out in the final of the Men's 50m Pistol
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    (L-R) Kim Jong-su, Jin Jong-oh and Tan Zongliang. (Photo credit: Xinhua)

    (BEIJING, August 12) -- China's Tan Zongliang will regret his first and last shot in the final of the Men's 50m Pistol for a long time.

    The 7.9 points from his first shot, the worst among all his shots in the final, wrote off the two-point lead that he gained in the qualification round. In the qualification round, Tan shot a total of 565, while the other five shooters were tied on 563.

    Tan's mistake gave Jin Jong-oh of the Republic of Korea the opportunity to win the gold medal with a final score of 660.4. The silver medal was won by Kim Jong-su of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, who shot a final score of 660.2, while Tan won a consolation bronze with a final score of 659.5.

    Jin still gave Tan a chance to win the gold medal though. Kim only scored 8.2 on his last shot, which meant second-placed Tan could still win gold if he scored more than 10.1 on his last shot. Tan, however, could only shoot 9.2 and instead of winning gold, Tan bid farewell to silver as well because Kim overtook Tan with an outstanding 10.5 on his last shot.

    The bronze medal is 37-year-old Tan's first medal from four Olympics.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Lanky Texan wins gold and breaks Olympic records in the Men's Double Trap

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    Eller celebrates his victory. (Photo credit: Nick Laham/Getty Images)

    (BEIJING, August 12) -- US shooter Walton Eller's first Olympic medal is golden.

    "It felt awesome. I've been working at this for God knows how long now. The last two times I finished 17th and 12th, so I'm glad I finally made a final," said the 26-year-old Texan.

    All his hard work could be witnessed in the qualification rounds, when he hit 145 targets out of a maximum 150, a new Olympic qualification record. Italian Francesco D Aniello finished the qualification rounds in second place, four points less than Eller. The other four shooters who qualified for the final were US shooter Jeffrey Holguin (140), China's Hu Binyuan (138), Sydney 2000 gold medal winner Richard Faulds of Great Britain (137) and Atlanta 1996 gold medal winner Russell Mark of Australia (136).

    The final round saw Eller miss five targets, equal to the amount of targets he missed in the three qualification rounds. After Eller missed the first two targets, his opponents had some hope of victory, but the lanky American recovered and hit a total of 45 targets in the final, a good enough score to set a new Olympic record for the final score. Eller's 190 overtook the 189 targets hit by Ahmed Almaktoum of the United Arab Emirates at Athens 2004.

    D Aniello and Hu both hit 46 targets in the final, earning the silver and bronze medals respectively with finals scores of 187 and 184.

    Holguin (182), Mark (181) and Faulds (180) finished in the last three places. Mark's path to the final was tumultuous as he needed to win a shoot-off against three other shooters. All four shooters had hit 136 targets in the qualification rounds.

    Mark needed to hit six targets in the shoot-off, eventually besting Athens 2004 gold medalist Almaktoum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Not everyone, it seems, thinks this is real sport. Hooray for Virgin Media :mad:
    air-rifle-400.jpg
    Since when did the hobby of shooting paper targets, tin cans, water bottles and crows in your garden escalate into a full-blown Olympic event? The guns are equipped with telescopic sights and a vice to keep the rifle steady. Where’s the skill in that?

    Stupidity rating 5/10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    An update on Derek from the ICPSA website:
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    The final results from the Olympic Trap event are now available

    Now that the long wait for the commencement of the xxix Olympiad is almost over, all eyes will move east to Beijing and tomorrows opening ceremony.

    One person who will not be participating in this ceremony however will be the ICPSA's own Derek Burnett for whom Friday 8th August 2008 will be the final day of preparation for his quest for Olympic success and he will be found at the Beijing Shooting Range CTF for the official practice session along with the rest of those athletes who will be competing in the Olympic Trap event.

    Saturday 9th August will see the first shots fired in the Olympic Trap qualifying rounds at approx. 2am Irish time with each competitor completing 75 targets on day one.

    Day two will also start at approx. 2am Irish time and when each competitor has completed a further 50 targets and the make up of the final is known, the final round of 25 targets which will decide the destination of this years medals is scheduled for approx. 8am Irish time.

    We would like to wish Derek every success in the days ahead and we are sure that the capable hands of High Performance Programme Director Kevin Kilty and Professor Peter Terry will ensure that Derek is well positioned to "give it his best shot".

    RTE has promised comprehensive coverage of the event and the programme schedule should be closely watched in the days ahead for further details and we will post any additional information if or when it becomes available.

    Day one results:

    At the conclusion of day one, Derek Burnett lies in 15th place three targets off the pace. Gusting winds combined with 90% humiditity and 30+ degrees ensured that scores were not as expected and consequently all is still left to shoot for as the Ireland contingent prepare for the second and final days competition.

    While Derek is not positioned on the leader board as he or indeed we would have hoped, based on the results of the ISSF World Cup held at the venue earlier in the year a score of 49 ex 50 on day two might be good enough to see him progress to the final.

    However even this result is dependant upon the performance of others on the day and his fait is ultimately outside his own hands.

    Shooting on day two will commence at approx. 2am Irish time and again we wish Derek, Kevin and Peter the very best of luck.

    A report on Derek's progress was broadcast this morning at approx. 8am and further coverage is planned this evening (09/08/08) on RTE after 7pm.

    Day two-Final Results:
    (Full results are available below as a download attachment)
    Despite a valiant effort by Derek Burnett, an opening round of 22 saw all chances of his progressing to the finals disappear. His final round score of 19 summed up what has turned out to be a disappointing Olympics both for Derek personally and those involved with the ICPSA High Performance Programme and his finishing position does not accurately reflect the time, energy and dedicated commitment of the last number of years nor indeed the ability and potential of Derek and those supporting him.

    It is however a measure of the progress of the sport and the ICPSA High Performance Programme that there is now a real disappointment at not having achieved a result when a good result was expected.

    This disappointment also demonstrates the progress made over the past four years from the Association being satisfied merely at qualifying for the Olympics or indeed any major Championships to now seeking not alone to compete with but to realistically expect to finish ahead of competitors from far bigger countries who have substantially more resources in terms of funding and facilities as well as a deeper rooted history in the sport.

    The road to London 2012 has already begun and we must look forward to charting the progress of our shooters and the sport internationally and at home in the years ahead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Sparks wrote: »
    Not everyone, it seems, thinks this is real sport. Hooray for Virgin Media :mad:

    That stupidity rating, is it 10 for really stupid or the other way around? I would have thought that it was closer to 10 if that was the paragon of stupidity.

    Held in a vice with telescopic sights! :D

    The chap who wrote that needs glasses, never mind a telescope :rolleyes:

    Sorry, having looked at the article it seems the stupidity rating is for the sport and not the writer. You could understand my confusion :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    The Women's 3P rifle should also be an interesting contest. Katerina Emmoms who has already one gold for Air Rifle (although not considered a serious contender) is competing along with World Record holder Sonja Pfeilschifter, Chinese athlete Du Li who was widely expected to win the Air Rifle, Barbara Lechner and Natalya Kalnysh who have all been over the 590 mark in this event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Shooting Day 4 Review: Sharp shooter smashes record

    (BEIJING, August 12) -- The United States’ Walton Eller set an Olympic final record by taking the gold in the Men's Double Trap while Jin Jong-oh won gold for the Republic of Korea in the Men's 50m Pistol with a margin of just 0.2 at the Beijing Shooting Range on Tuesday.

    Eller broke both the Olympic qualification and final records that were set by defending gold medalist Ahmed Al-Maktoum of the United Arab Emirates in Athens. Eller, who finished 17th at Athens 2004, shot steadily (45 out of 50) in the final to claim the United States’ first-ever gold in the event.

    In the Men's 50m Pistol, Jin, silver medalist in Athens, entered the final ranked sixth but gained the lead from the first shot, which he lost only once on his fourth shot when he scored 8.5. He made a shaky 8.2 on his final shot but held on to win the gold medal.

    Kim Jong-su of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea scored an impressive 10.5 on his last shot, but it was not enough to close the gap and he was forced to settle for the silver medal, his second medal in Beijing. He won the bronze medal in the 10m Air Pistol on August 9.

    Favorite Tan Zongliang of China earned his first Olympic medal – a bronze - with a score of 659.5. He was first after the qualification round, but a poor first shot (7.9) dropped him to sixth and he was unable to regain the lead.

    In the Men's Double Trap, World No. 8 Francesco D Aniello of Italy earned his first Olympic medal and Italy's second silver medal at the Beijing 2008 Shooting competition. The first silver medal was won by Giovanni Pellielo in the Men’s Trap. After the final ended, D Aniello kneeled on the grass and cried tears of happiness when he realized that he had secured the silver medal.

    The local favorite, Hu Binyuan of China, who finished fourth at Athens 2004, hit 46 of the 50 targets in the final to win the bronze medal. China also won bronze medals in Men’s Double Trap at Atlanta 1996 and Athens 2004.

    Both Hu and D Aniello shot the highest number of targets in the final (46 out of 50). The two other Olympic medalists in the final, Russell Mark of Australia and Richard Faulds of Great Britain, finished fifth and sixth respectively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Shooting Day 5 Preview: Grozdeva shoots for third Gold

    (BEIJING, August 12) -- Bulgaria's Maria Grozdeva will be shooting for her third straight Olympic gold medal in the Women's 25m Pistol at the Beijing Shooting Range on August 13.

    Grozdeva will be seeking her sixth Olympic medal, having won gold medals in this event at Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004, and bronze medals in the 10m Air Pistol at Barcelona 1992, Atlanta 1996 and Athens 2004.

    The mother of three won a gold medal in the 25m Pistol at the 2008 World Cup in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, with a score of 787.0.

    Other top shooters competing tomorrow include the Athens 2004 silver medalist, Lenka Maruskova of the Czech Republic and China's Chen Ying and Fei Fengji.

    Chen won every world title on offer in 2007 and will probably be Grozdeva's top challenger.

    Lalita Yauhleuskaya of Australia and Jasna Sekaric of Serbia, the top-ranked players in the world, will also compete in the qualification round.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    For those who still can't get a look at the shooting events, here's a site with streaming broadcasts that covers everything live and has highlights of the finals as well.

    http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/olympics/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    Video of double trap is of the whole match:
    http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/player....nelcode=sportsh


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    As far as I know, NBC coverage is limited to US residents only and even then only to affiliates :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    rrpc wrote: »
    For those who still can't get a look at the shooting events, here's a site with streaming broadcasts that covers everything live and has highlights of the finals as well.

    http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/olympics/

    Internet Exploder users only :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    fat-tony wrote: »
    Internet Exploder users only :rolleyes:

    thanks tony for the link


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    The NBC link worked for a little while but now all I get is "Sorry, the requested page is unavailable."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Maria Grozdeva didn't get her third gold medal this time. She went into the final in 5th place on 583 and stayed there.

    The leader going into the final was the Mongolian Gundeqmaa Otryad with an equal Olympic record of 590 followed by Munkhbayar Dorjsuren of Germany on 587 and Chen Ying of China on 585.

    Img214536916.jpg

    Positions moved about in the top three during the final with the eventual winnner; Chen Ying scoring a massive 208.4 to set a new final Olympic record of 793.4. Both Otryad and Dorjsuren scored 202.2, giving them second and third places respectively. Overcoming a 5 point deficit to win was a remarkable feat, she scored: 10.2, 10.3, 10.8, 10.7, 10.5, 10.5, 10.7, 10.4, 10.8, 10.7, 9.9, 10.3, 10.8, 10.8, 10.7, 10.5, 10.0, 9.2, 10.3, 10.3.

    Img214536917.jpg

    Just from those photos and the coverage of the 50m pistol, it appears that the pistol range is largely if not completely indoors.

    Scores were very spread out going into the final. First was 590 and eighth place was 582. Lowest score in qualifying was 558.

    When we ran this event in Rathdrum, the highest score on the day was 527. I'm not suggesting that Alan Kelly wear drag and enter the Olympics, but just putting today's scores in the perspective of what we're achieving here.

    The final will be shown again on BBC stream 5 at 09:30 this morning and also at 00:30 tomorrow on stream 4.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    I was trying to do a bit of pistol identification from the stream on the eu broadcasting website.

    So far I can say that 2nd and 3rd places were Walther SSP's, the first time I've actually seen these being used in an international. The other Chinese lady was using a Pardini as was the Thai competitor.

    I still can't figure out what Chen Ying was using. It's certainly a grip loader and could be one of the older Hammerli's (a 208 or 215) or possibly an older Feinwekbau.

    The others weren't visible on the stream so I've no idea what they were although there was a Morini CM22M used as a demonstration at the start of the broadcast.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Shooting Day 5 Review: Historical breakthroughs still to wait

    (BEIJING, August 13) -- If they had won a gold medal, both would have made history – the first ever Olympic gold for Mongolia or the first winner of three consecutive Olympic gold medals from the same shooting event.

    However, Otryad Gundegmaa of Mongolia and Maria Grozdeva of Bulgaria were both unable to win gold. The Mongolian shooter who topped the qualification round with 590 in the Women's 25m Pistol, was a strong chance for gold. She had a three-point lead over German shooter Dorjsuren Munkhbayar, who came in second.

    Maria Grozdeva, two-time Olympic gold medalist in the event at Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004, finished qualification in fifth with 583.

    The pressure started to take its toll on the 30-year-old Otryad, who was sixth at both Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004. Eventual gold medalist Chen Ying of China cut Otryad's lead down bullet by bullet and finally scooped up the lead when a pistol malfunction halted the Mongolian's shooting.

    Otryad gained her first Shooting silver medal and Mongolia's first medal of the 2008 Games with a final score of 792.2.

    "Although it's a pity that I didn't get the gold medal I am still very happy," said Otryad after winning the silver medal.

    Grozdeva finished the final ranked fifth with 786.6. She had the chance to be the first winner of three consecutive Olympic gold medals from the same shooting event. However, she never threatened today's medalists and regretted the mistakes that she made during precision shooting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Shooting Day 6 Preview: Galkina and Igaly seek golden double

    (BEIJING, August 13) -- Russia's Lioubov Galkina will tomorrow look for her second consecutive Olympic gold medal in the Women's 50m Rifle Three Positions. In Women's Skeet, Diana Igaly of Hungary will also look to reproduce the gold medal she won at Athens 2004.

    Galkina has already made an appearance on the medals podium in Beijing after winning the first silver medal of the Games in the Women's 10m Air Rifle on August 9. The event was won by Katerina Emmons of the Czech Republic.

    Galkina won the gold medal at Athens 2004 with 688.4 points, beating Italy's Valentina Turisini, who finished with 685.9. Turisini and Tatiana Goldobina of Russia, silver medalists at Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004, will be looking to move up a spot in Beijing.

    Emmons will be seeking her second gold medal of the Beijing Games. Local favorite and World No. 2 Du Li of China will be keen for a medal after she finished a disappointing fifth in the Women's 10m Air Rifle.

    World No. 1 Sonja Pfeilschifter of Germany is still searching for an elusive first Olympic medal. She failed to qualify for the final in the 10m Air Rifle - another event in which she was ranked first in the world.

    Lidija Mihajlovic of Serbia and Jamie Beyerle of the United States, the third and fourth-ranked shooters in the world, are also in the field.

    Diana Igaly of Hungary is the favorite for the Women's Skeet tomorrow. Igaly won gold at Athens 2004 and bronze at Sydney 2000. Another gold medal chance will be Zemfira Meftakhetdinova of Azerbaijan. Meftakhetdinova won a gold medal at Sydney 2000.

    Athens 2004 silver medalist in the Women's Skeet, Wei Ning of China and Kimberly Rhode of the United States are also medal contenders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭bigred


    rrpc wrote: »
    I was trying to do a bit of pistol identification from the stream on the eu broadcasting website.

    So far I can say that 2nd and 3rd places were Walther SSP's, the first time I've actually seen these being used in an international.

    Dammit anyway. Now I'll have to buy one ;). Why couldn't they be €400 cheaper like the pardini? Man, this GAS will have me killed :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    jwshooter wrote: »
    thanks tony for the link

    You should thank rrpc as he posted the link. I'm having a little go at him about the necessity of using the evil Micro**** browser. It doesn't work with Firefox:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    fat-tony wrote: »
    You should thank rrpc as he posted the link. I'm having a little go at him about the necessity of using the evil Micro**** browser. It doesn't work with Firefox:(

    Not my fault :p I didn't design the website. You can go off with your tinfoil hat and make your statement against the mighty Microsoft whilst the rest of us watch the nice videos. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Valter


    Another medal for the Emmons household, Silver, for the lady of the house! 50m rifle :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Fair play Valter for staying up for this :)

    Du Li from China was the winner with a 589 and 101.3 to set a new final olympic record of 690.3. Emmons followed with 586 and 101.7 to give 687.7 and Eglis Yaima Cruz from Cuba was third with 588 and 99.6 giving 687.6, a mere 0.1 behind Katerina Emmons.

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    Nobody broke the 590 mark which probably made it a bit easier for Emmons who hasn't broken that mark yet in her career, but considering her qualifying score for the Olympics was 582, there certainly was an improvement for her. Hubby has obviously been helping with the setup :D

    Sonia Pfeilschifter must have had an absolute nightmare in qualifying, only scoring 578. As the holder of the world record of 594 set in 2006, this can only have been a complete meltdown. Terribly disappointing for her.

    The final was very tight, these are the final placings and scores:

    Name|Country|Qualifying|Final Score|Total
    Du Li|China|589|101.3|690.3
    Katerina Emmons|Czech Rep.|586|101.7|687.7
    Eglis Yaima Cruz|Cuba|588|99.6|687.6
    Lioubov Galkina|Russia|585|102.4|687.4
    Jamie Beyerle|USA|586|100.9|686.9
    Olga Dovgun|Kazakhstan|588|98.3|686.3
    Lidija Mihajlovic|Serbia|586|100.0|686.0
    Wu Liuxi|China|585|100.9|685.9

    Barbara Lechner of Germany was 9th with a 582. I always feel sympathy for 9th place because it's one I'm familiar with. :D

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    The official site has three photos of Du Li shooting. two of them appear to be from the air rifle final, I'm not sure if the one above is actually from the final because they obviously rushed to get any photo up as quickly as possible :D

    From the above it looks like she's using Eley Tenex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Just watched the highlights of the final on the EBU site. Emmons uses the short barrelled Anschutz 2013 (stainless barrel and long extension) as does Jamie Beyerle of the USA, Beyerle's extension tube is very long indeed. It was also funny to see one of the competitors using the lid of an Eley Match box as a side blinder taped on with scotch tape :D

    No airs and graces in this sport ;)

    Emmons came from sixth to take second whereas Cruz dropped to third from second. In fact Emmons was fourth after the 9th shot and took the silver with her last shot.

    Emmons has the rifle completely upright, no cant whatsoever in either the rifle or the sights. She really arches her back to get this to work, but it obviously does work for her. Du Li also seems to be very upright, though I didn't have a reference to check against (with Emmons I could compare her rifle with her stativ).

    The finals hall is completely indoors. The Chinese are really going all out to make sure there's lots of new records.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Shooting Day 6 Review: Women shooters set final Olympic records, claim gold

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    (L-R) Katerina Emmons, Du Li and Eglys Cruz. (Photo credit: Xinhua)
    Photo Gallery>>

    (BEIJING, August 14) -- Du Li of China and Chiara Cainero of Italy set final Olympic records at the Beijing Shooting Range on Thursday, the final day of the Women's Shooting events.

    Du Li set an Olympic final mark of 690.3 points in winning the Women's 50m Rifle Three Positions competition, despite getting off to a bad start with an 8.7 first shot.

    She is the 11th athlete and the third woman to win two separate Olympic Shooting events, having also won the 10m Air Rifle at Athens 2004. Renata Mauer-Rozanska of Ploland was the last athlete to achieve this at Sydney 2000.

    Katerina Emmons of the Czech Republic, who had upstaged Du in claiming the first gold of the Beijing Games in the 10m Air Rifle, took the silver medal with a final tally of 687.7, while Eglis Yaima Cruz of Cuba won bronze with a score of 687.6.

    The defending Athens champion, Russian Lioubov Galkina, finished fourth with 687.4 points.

    Germany's Sonja Pfeilschifter, ranked No. 1 in the world, finished 17th in the qualification and failed to make it into the final.

    In the Women's Skeet final, held amidst a downpour, the crowd watched three separate shoot-offs in the final for the medal and fourth places.

    Despite challenges posed by the weather, three shooters tied for first place, with Chiara Cainero of Italy, Kimberly Rhode of the United States and Christine Brinker of Germany all setting a final Olympic record with 93 hits.

    Cainero won the shoot-off to take her first Olympic gold in this event.

    Rhode, a two-time Olympic gold medalist in Double Trap, claimed the silver, winning the shoot-off (+2/2) over Brinker (+1/2). The bronze was Brinker's first Olympic medal.

    Sutiya Jiewchaloemmit of Thailand, at 22, the youngest finalist, finished fifth, while Wei Ning of China, the Athens 2004 silver medalist, finished sixth with 91 hits.

    Event favorites Svetlana Demina of Russia and Diana Igaly of Hungary (defending gold medalist) finished 12th and 13th, respectively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the Games website:
    Shooting Day 7 Preview: Emmons set to follow his wife's example

    (BEIJING, August 14) -- The highlight of tomorrow's Shooting action will be the final of the Men's 50m Rifle Prone.

    Matthew Emmons of the United States is a strong chance to win his second gold medal in the event, following on from his success at Athens 2004.

    For inspiration, Emmons does not need to look any further than his wife Katerina, who has already won two medals at Beijing 2008 -- a gold medal in the Women's 10m Air Rifle and a silver medal in the Women's 50m Rifle Three Positions.

    Emmons will be challenged by Australian Warren Potent, who equaled the World record for a final score at the Beijing World Cup in April 2008.

    After winning bronze medals at Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004, Belarusian Sergei Martynov will be looking to up the ante and win gold.

    The qualification round of the Men's 50m Rifle Prone will begin tomorrow at 9 a.m. local time (UTC/GMT +8), while the final will begin at 11:30 a.m. The top eight shooters from the qualification round advance to the final.

    In addition to the Men's 50m Rifle Prone, the first qualification stages of both the Men's Skeet and the Men's 25m Rapid Fire Pistol will be held tomorrow.

    There will be a total of four past gold medalists in the Men's Skeet: Italian Andrea Benelli (Athens 2004), Ukrainian Mykola Milchev (Sydney 2000), Italian Ennio Falco (Atlanta 1996) and German Axel Wegner (1988).

    The only gold medalist from the previous five Games that will not be present will be China's Zhong Shan, the only woman to a win a shooting event that was open to both women and men. Women now have their own Skeet event, which was won by Italy's Chiara Cainero today.

    The Men's 25m Rapid Fire Pistol promises to be a battle between two German shooters. Germany's Ralf Schumann will embark on his campaign to win a fourth Olympic gold medal in the event.

    However, his compatriot Christian Reitz broke the world records for both the qualification and final scores at the Milan World Cup in May 2008. The 21-year-old Reitz will need to handle the pressure of shooting at the Olympics and not be outwitted by his experienced opponent, the 46-year-old Schumann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    A lot of the airgun matches have been caught and recorded and are available for download from here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Some probably remember that last time round, Matt Emmons competed with a rifle that wasn't his own because someone took a screwdriver to the chamber of his anschutz a few weeks before the games. It seems that that kind of disgraceful and shameful conduct hasn't gone away. From the Telegraph:
    Beijing Olympics: Cheating accusation from Indian shooter Abhinav Bindra
    The Beijing Olympics has been hit by a fresh 'cheating' row after India's gold-medal winning shooter said that his gunsight had been tampered with before the final round of his event.
    By Peter Foster in Beijing
    Last Updated: 11:18AM BST 14 Aug 2008


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    Abhinav Bindra of India during his medal winning performance in the Men's 10m Air Rifle shooting Photo: AFP / GETTY

    Abhinav Bindra, who became the first Indian to win an individual Olympic Gold earlier this week, said he had discovered the alteration as he practiced before the final of the 10m Air Rifle event which he went on to win.

    Competitors are given three minutes of 'sighter' shots to zero in their sights before the competition officially begins and it was at this point that Bindhra, 25, discovered that someone had moved his rear sight.

    Dr Amit Bhattacharjee, Abhinav's personal mental trainer said: "When Abhinav fired the first shot in the sighting time (practice time), it hit the target between the fourth and fifth rings.

    "It is unthinkable of any shooter competing at this level to score 4.5 points. But he remained calm and corrected the angle (of his sight) and the end result is in front of you."

    The Indian team authorities said that no official complaint had been made about the incident, since it is acknowledged to be the responsibility of the shooter to take proper care of his rifle.

    Baljit Singh Sethi, India's deputy Chef-the-Mission who is also the secretary general of the National Rifle Association of India, said.

    "Actually, you cannot blame anyone for it's your duty to take care of your gun. He was the only Indian to qualify, so there were shooters only from other countries in that room."

    Bindra has recalled going to the toilet at the same time his German coach Gabriela Buehlmann went out for a cigarette, leaving the gun unattended. It was at this moment that the Indians suspect the rifle was tampered with.

    The allegations of cheating come a day after the International Olympic Committee (IOC) was forced to answer allegations in the US media that three of China's gold-medal winning gymnastics team were underage.

    According to Olympic regulations gymnasts must turn 16 by the end of an Olympic year, but several reports in the Chinese media appeared to refer three of the Chinese gymnasts as 13 and 14 as recently as a year ago.

    Doubts have been cast over the ages of He Kexin, Jiang Yuyuan, and Yang Yilin who look considerably younger than their counterparts. Age is considered an advantage in gymnastics because younger girls are more flexible than older ones.

    The victorious gymnasts who beat the USA to win team gold, were subjected to hostile questioning at their victory press conference, with journalists demanding to know if those under suspicion could 'remember their 15th birthdays'.

    The IOC said that passports and other documentation provided by the Chinese authorities during the registration process 'proved' the athletes were old enough to compete, but suspicions continue to linger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    rrpc wrote: »
    I was trying to do a bit of pistol identification from the stream on the eu broadcasting website.

    So far I can say that 2nd and 3rd places were Walther SSP's, the first time I've actually seen these being used in an international. The other Chinese lady was using a Pardini as was the Thai competitor.

    I still can't figure out what Chen Ying was using. It's certainly a grip loader and could be one of the older Hammerli's (a 208 or 215) or possibly an older Feinwekbau.

    The others weren't visible on the stream so I've no idea what they were although there was a Morini CM22M used as a demonstration at the start of the broadcast.

    From a thread on this on Target Talk, it seems that Ying was using a chinese pistol that we don't see too much outside of China and which dates to the 1980s (Like Martinov in prone, sometimes the equipment that's best for the shooter isn't the equipment that's best for the pockets of the manufacturers!). It's their .22 take on the IZH series I'd guess - state manufactured explicitly for the purpose of the Games.

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    Also it seems that Otyrad has moved from an FWB AW93 over to the SSP only recently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Yeah, I saw that thread. It's quite like an IZH being a grip loader though it appears to be less 'clunky' than the IZH.

    Otryad's change to the SSP didn't seem to do her any harm although there was something of a snafu on her 3rd series. It didn't appear to be a malfunction becuase her pistol wasn't examined, it may have been a target or light failure.

    There was something really strange happened because the shots on the audience view changed between her 2nd and 3rd shots and she was obviously put off by the failure becuase she attempted to fire a 5th shot even though her pistol was empty.

    I've taken this from the ebu highlights, so I'm not sure if editing is to blame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    50m Prone Final

    Ukraine's Artur Ayvazian took the Gold in the 50m Prone Final with a score of 702.7 (qual 599).
    Matt Emmons got the Silver with a 701.7 (qual 597).
    Warren Potent of Australia finished with the Bronze medal with a score of 700.5 (qual 595).

    Here's the shot by shot scores for the first three (from the Games website). http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/SH/C74A/SHM103101.shtml#SHM103101

    1 1736 AYVAZIAN Artur UKR.gifUkraine 100 100 100 100 100 99 599 Final shots: 10.4 10.6 10.2 10.6 10.2 10.4 10.8 10.0 10.2 10.3 103.7 702.7

    2 1760 EMMONS Matthew USA.gifUnited States 99 100 98 100 100 100 597 Final shots: 10.0 10.8 10.6 9.8 10.8 10.8 10.7 10.4 10.4 10.4 104.7 701.7

    3 1028 POTENT Warren AUS.gifAustralia 99 99 99 99 99 100 595 Final shots: 10.3 10.6 10.6 10.3 10.4 10.7 10.5 10.8 10.6 10.7 105.5 700.5


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Well done Artur, Matt and Warren! I think Warren Potent is 48 years old, so who says you have to be young to win an Olympic medal.

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    Emmons is obviously on form, the prone rifle would be his second best event, he's usually better at 3P, in any case he's matched one of his wife's medals, all he has to do is get gold on Sunday :D

    There were some really big names in that match:

    Berg was 4th, Prikhodtchenko was 5th, Sauveplane 6th, Hirvi 7th and Martynov was 8th.

    Other notables: Mchael Anti was 9th, Guy Starik 12th, Artem Khadjibekov 13th, Marco de Nicolo 15th, Jozef Gonci 16th, Rajmond Debevec 21st, Maik Eckhardt 24th, our friend Miroslav Varga was 29th and Marcel Buerge was 32nd.

    All those scored 590 and above.

    Jonathan Hammond of GB was 34th with a 589.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    It's virtually impossible to overturn a two point deficit in a final at that level. Emmons did well to make up one point, but these guys just bang in good tens with every shot. Emmons could have come closer but had a 9.8 with his fourth shot whereas Ayvazian had nothing but tens.

    Emmons has a very wide leg position when shooting prone. It almost looked uncomfortable. It seems to be an Emmons thing because Katerina also has a very wide stance when shooting standing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    First time I've heard of this happening in shooting:

    BEIJING (AP) A North Korean shooter was stripped of his two medals and expelled from the Beijing Olympics along with a Vietnamese gymnast Friday after failing doping tests.

    They are the second and third athletes caught doping in Beijing, where the IOC is conducting a record 4,500 drug tests.

    The International Olympic Committee said shooter KIM Jong Su tested positive for propanolol after winning the silver medal in the 50-meter pistol and bronze in the 10-meter air pistol.

    Propanolol is a banned betablocker, which can be used to prevent trembling in events such as shooting and archery. The bronze medal in the 10-meter event now goes to American shooter Jason Turner. In the 50-meter event, China's TAN Zongliang moves up to the silver and Russia's Vladimir Isakov is upgraded to the bronze.

    IOC medical commission chairman Arne Ljungqvist said he considered Kim guilty of "a deliberate intake" of a banned substance because of propanolol's specific benefit for shooters. Kim could face a ban of up to two years from the international shooting federation.

    IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said both athletes were kicked out of the games and had their accreditations revoked. Spanish cyclist Maria Isabel Moreno was kicked out of the games Monday after testing positive for EPO in a pre-competition check.

    Good for Jason Turner and Vladimir Isakov. Just a pity that they didn't get the medal ceremony. Jason Turner had a shoot off in the Air Pistol for 4th place (sometimes referred to as the 'potato medal'). I'll bet he's glad now that he took it seriously!

    And I'll bet Oleg Omelchuk is sorry he didn't! He also had a shoot off with Isakov and Isakov had a 9.1, Omelchuk had a 6.5!

    Oops :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,711 ✭✭✭fat-tony


    Was just about to post that info on the failed dope test!

    See Irish Times website : http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/other/2008/0815/1218747962974.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Interestingly, so far the official site has no mention of it in the shooting section although the results have been amended


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    I don't think I've ever heard of that happening before, not to a medal-holder anyway. You hear odd cases here and there where people are hauled up for doping, but the only case I've heard of recently where the drug was a betablocker (the only drug for which an exception will not be granted in shooting) was an australian who'd been prescribed them for a heart condition.

    Between this and Bindhra's sights being tampered with, it's a departure from the high standards we're used to :(


  • Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What with the sights?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    See the earlier post above - Bindhra left his rifle in the prep area while nipping out to the toilet before the 10m Air Rifle Men's finals, and his coach chose that moment to nip out for a cigarette, and when Bindhra took his first practise shot in the warm-up area on returning, it was a 4.5 and he had to adjust his sights by a dozen or more clicks to get back to the bull - he's claiming that while he and his coach were out of the room, someone gave his sights a quick spin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    It's unusual in shooting because apart from the fact that betablockers are the only thing that could improve performance, the amount of training required to get to that level should have eliminated any tedency to shake in the first place.

    The Korean was incredibly stupid to try it seeing as all medal winners are tested and since betablockers are tested for specifically.

    Two Olympic medals is a very high price to pay for that stupidity.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    First qualifying round of the Mens Rapid Fire Pistol got under way this morning. Ralf Schumann has a bit of work to do if he wants to get in the final. Christian Reitz had a pretty good start and Leonid Ekimov had the best result so far. Scores aren't going to break any records I think.

    Rank|Name|NOC|8 sec|6 sec|4 sec|Total
    1|EKIMOV Leonid|Russian Fed.|99|95|97|291
    2|PETRIV Oleksandr|Ukraine|96|99|94|289
    3|SANDERSON Keith|United States|97|98|94|289
    4|REITZ Christian|Germany|97|100|92|289
    5|PUPO Leuris|Cuba|96|97|95|288
    6|ZHANG Penghui|China|96|100|92|288
    7|SCHUMANN Ralf|Germany|97|99|92|288
    8|KLIMOV Alexei|Russian Fed.|99|99|90|288
    9|RAICEA Iulian|Romania|99|95|93|287
    10|BONDARUK Roman|Ukraine|96|94|96|286
    11|ALMEIDA Julio|Brazil|98|96|90|284
    12|LISOCONI Ghenadie|Rep. of Moldova|95|96|91|282
    13|WONG Fai|"Hong Kong, China"|96|97|89|282
    14|LIU Zhongsheng|China|96|95|90|281
    15|QUICK Bruce|Australia|94|97|89|280
    16|AMIR HASAN Hasli Izwan|Malaysia|96|95|88|279
    17|KUZMINS Afanasijs|Latvia|95|92|90|277
    18|PODHRASKY Martin|Czech Republic|92|98|86|276
    19|STRNAD Martin|Czech Republic|96|94|77|267

    2nd qualifying round is in the morning followed by the final.


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