What is your most controversial opinion?

Captain Ginger · 30-07-2008 12:56PM

Piste wrote: »

Abortion should be legal in Ireland.

I don't see how plain common sense it controversial

ie: I agree.

Joseph Kuhr · 30-07-2008 12:57PM

Ireland should be part of the UK...

Keano · 30-07-2008 12:58PM

Many have mentioned but it is about time that the government put the Irish people first.

m@cc@ · 30-07-2008 12:58PM

Pen1987 wrote: »

That nobody should donate to animal charities. Theres human charities to donate to for fook sake! Human>stray dog everytime.

Littlest Hobo>Bernard McHugh everytime!

Iago · 30-07-2008 01:01PM

1.We should adopt an equilibrium based justice model, if someone murders someone they should get the death penalty. If they rape someone they should be castrated etc etc.

2. We should bring back corporal punishment in schools

3. Nobody should be allowed more than one period of paid maternity leave

Dinter · 30-07-2008 01:01PM

Irishcrx wrote: »

. . . and that when our time comes we will be re-uninated but in reality it's fairly far fetched.

Ah that's that cleared up anyway.

godtabh · 30-07-2008 01:01PM

Piste wrote: »

Our immigration laws should be severely tightened.

-Immigrants should speak at least basic English or Irish
-Immigrants who commit crimes should be booted out, our taxpayers should not have to pay to keep them here
-Our government should look after Irish citizens before foreign immigrants, i.e Irish should get first preference when it comes to social housing etc.
-Immigrants with a criminal record for serious crime (murder, assault, rape etc.) should not be allowed into the country.

Oh also if our government cannot afford a good level of healthcare/social care then it should divert money aay from foreign aid and out it towards our country. Basically our government should look after us before anyone else.

I would agree with that as well

Joseph Kuhr · 30-07-2008 01:02PM

Pen1987 wrote: »

That nobody should donate to animal charities. Theres human charities to donate to for fook sake! Human>stray dog everytime.

But animals are cute and Humans are evil. Besides my taxes already go to human charity. None of my taxes go to animal charirties.

Piste · 30-07-2008 01:04PM

Jaffa Cakes are cakes, not biscuits.

Earthhorse · 30-07-2008 01:04PM

Few people in this thread seem to understand what the word controversial means.

nomorebadtown · 30-07-2008 01:05PM

Piste wrote: »

-Immigrants who commit crimes should be booted out, our taxpayers should not have to pay to keep them here
-Our government should look after Irish citizens before foreign immigrants, i.e Irish should get first preference when it comes to social housing etc.

I think the fact that you have to list these opinions under the banner of 'controversial' is a disgrace and an indictment of how insane our society has become in terms of not being able to speak your mind.

Dinter · 30-07-2008 01:06PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

Few people in this thread seem to understand what the word controversial means.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Controversial opinion there Earthhorse. :pac:

brianthebard · 30-07-2008 01:06PM

Iago wrote: »

3. Nobody should be allowed more than one period of paid maternity leave

why this one?Discouraging multiple births will lead to a decline in population.

Honey-ec · 30-07-2008 01:11PM

brianthebard wrote: »

why this one?Discouraging multiple births will lead to a decline in population.

The world is vastly overpopulated as it is. Bring in a one-child policy everywhere, I say!!!

sebastianlieken · 30-07-2008 01:11PM

Joseph Kuhr wrote: »

Ireland should be part of the UK...

first off, (and this isnt asked in a derogitory tone), but why?

brianthebard wrote: »

why this one?Discouraging multiple births will lead to a decline in population.

and damn straight! there's too many bloody people in the world! and it's all due to poor people and scumbags multipling and infesting the country with their offspring for the purpose of sithing money from the government to fund their own futile, vulgar, and irretating lives.

m@cc@ · 30-07-2008 01:12PM

Piste wrote: »

Jaffa Cakes are cakes, not biscuits.

Jaffa cakes are cakes for tax reasons. Most people who argue that jaffa cakes are cakes use the logical argument that when they are stale they go hard, whereas Digestives and Penguins go soft. Cake = hard, biscuit = soft. It was using this reasoning that McVities went to tribunal against the Inland Revenue over the jaffa cake’s status.
Basically biscuits are classed as a luxury item and incur a 17.5% VAT charge. Cakes, supposedly are basic foodstuffs and are therefore VAT exempt. The government wanted to get this tax flow and took McVities on. The soft/hard debate was what settled it.
Now what does this show? I’m sure if we really wanted we could put our Daily Mail hats on (asylum seekers, etc etc) and moan about this being another example of the waste of time that the government can be sometimes every minute of every working day. But that would be stupid, and not just because it involves thinking like a newspaper which has paid no attention at all to major revelations like it being the 21st century and Genghis Khan not being considered a good model for leadership. No, the jaffa issue is important. How would you feel if they were a luxury item? Do you want to be priced out of those delicious little pieces of joy? If small people can get away with buying kids’ shoes and not paying VAT on them, then I’m damned if (with my size 8 adult shoes) I’m paying VAT on my jaffas as well.

John Mason · 30-07-2008 01:14PM

certain parts of the country/dublin should have contraception put in the water to stop them breeding like rabbits

Piste · 30-07-2008 01:14PM

Hehe yes I know the history behind it, I was going rto cite it if anyone disagreed with me :pac:

And yes it's a shame that my view of immigration could be considered controversial , but that's the world we live in these ddays, can't say boo to a goose!

Kold · 30-07-2008 01:16PM

Honey-ec wrote: »

The world is vastly overpopulated as it is. Bring in a one-child policy everywhere, I say!!!

^^ Now I know f*cking is about the only thing they have going for them in the 3rd world but could they perhaps stop having 50 kids each?

seamus · 30-07-2008 01:17PM

1. People who end up homeless under their own steam (drugs, whatever), should be left there.

2. All male travellers should be chemically castrated.

buckieburd · 30-07-2008 01:20PM

seamus wrote: »

1. People who end up homeless under their own steam (drugs, whatever), should be left there.

2. All male travellers should be chemically castrated.

Hope you never fall on hard times mate!

m@cc@ · 30-07-2008 01:20PM

Earthhorse wrote: »

Few people in this thread seem to understand what the word controversial means.

Including yourself by the looks of it. They are all controversial opinions, the fact that they are people's 'most controversial' opinions is the surprising thing.

Dragan · 30-07-2008 01:21PM

1) If you **** your own life up, the you should be left to sort it out.

2) Unmarried single mothers being given houses pisses me off.

3) As a society we carry far too many people. If you offer nothing then **** off.

gaz wac · 30-07-2008 01:22PM

m@cc@ wrote: »

Jaffa cakes are cakes for tax reasons. Most people who argue that jaffa cakes are cakes use the logical argument that when they are stale they go hard, whereas Digestives and Penguins go soft. Cake = hard, biscuit = soft. It was using this reasoning that McVities went to tribunal against the Inland Revenue over the jaffa cake’s status.
Basically biscuits are classed as a luxury item and incur a 17.5% VAT charge. Cakes, supposedly are basic foodstuffs and are therefore VAT exempt. The government wanted to get this tax flow and took McVities on. The soft/hard debate was what settled it.
Now what does this show? I’m sure if we really wanted we could put our Daily Mail hats on (asylum seekers, etc etc) and moan about this being another example of the waste of time that the government can be sometimes every minute of every working day. But that would be stupid, and not just because it involves thinking like a newspaper which has paid no attention at all to major revelations like it being the 21st century and Genghis Khan not being considered a good model for leadership. No, the jaffa issue is important. How would you feel if they were a luxury item? Do you want to be priced out of those delicious little pieces of joy? If small people can get away with buying kids’ shoes and not paying VAT on them, then I’m damned if (with my size 8 adult shoes) I’m paying VAT on my jaffas as well.

Jaffas are made with eggs = cakes
Biscuits are not made with eggs = biscuits.......simple

Joseph Kuhr · 30-07-2008 01:23PM

sebastianlieken wrote: »

first off, (and this isnt asked in a derogitory tone), but why?

1 we are a small nation with huge ambitions, ambitions we can never achieve on our own.
2. The EU is too big, we are drowned out by bigger fish.
3. We are all alike and have the most in common with each other. Go outside these Islands and we are alien in our interests, opinions, goals and even language.
4. We would not be "ruled by the Brits" as was the case in the past. We'd be big players in such a union.
5. We are in reality a Celtic nation separated by water.

p.s I'm Irish born and bred...catholic too but only because my parents said so when I was born.

buckieburd · 30-07-2008 01:24PM

1) Violent sex offenders should never be released
2) Drug addiction is an illness
3) The Irish Goverment is ignoring the plight of the homeless...

pickarooney · 30-07-2008 01:24PM

sebastianlieken wrote: »

first off, (and this isnt asked in a derogitory tone), but why?

and damn straight! there's too many bloody people in the world! and it's all due to poor people and scumbags multipling and infesting the country with their offspring for the purpose of sithing money from the government to fund their own futile, vulgar, and irretating lives.

It's controversial, not contradictory opions the thread is looking for. If the only people you're targetting with your hare-brained one-child policy are those with jobs, how is this going to positively affect the scum:non-scum birth ratio?

I think the overwhelming majority of jobs are utterly redundant and only serve to give workers some sense of worth.

pickarooney · 30-07-2008 01:26PM

m@cc@ wrote: »

Jaffa cakes are cakes for tax reasons. Most people who argue that jaffa cakes are cakes use the logical argument that when they are stale they go hard, whereas Digestives and Penguins go soft. Cake = hard, biscuit = soft. It was using this reasoning that McVities went to tribunal against the Inland Revenue over the jaffa cake’s status.
Basically biscuits are classed as a luxury item and incur a 17.5% VAT charge. Cakes, supposedly are basic foodstuffs and are therefore VAT exempt. The government wanted to get this tax flow and took McVities on. The soft/hard debate was what settled it.
Now what does this show? I’m sure if we really wanted we could put our Daily Mail hats on (asylum seekers, etc etc) and moan about this being another example of the waste of time that the government can be sometimes every minute of every working day. But that would be stupid, and not just because it involves thinking like a newspaper which has paid no attention at all to major revelations like it being the 21st century and Genghis Khan not being considered a good model for leadership. No, the jaffa issue is important. How would you feel if they were a luxury item? Do you want to be priced out of those delicious little pieces of joy? If small people can get away with buying kids’ shoes and not paying VAT on them, then I’m damned if (with my size 8 adult shoes) I’m paying VAT on my jaffas as well.

Interesting, but applies only to the UK.

helimachoptor · 30-07-2008 01:28PM

Eglinton wrote: »

Now before we begin, I don't intend on this thread being about bashing other posters' points of view. If you could simply state your own controversial view and perhaps some meaningful comments on others'.

Mine
I think that people who believe in a god or follow religious doctrine are somehow lacking in intelligence. I'm not saying they're all round dumb but there's some rational element of their cognitive process missing.

A lot of people I know agree with me. A lot don't and get very riled about the whole thing.

Same with me, 1 of my friends gets very angry about this.

Her dad was sick a few years ago and had a make or break operation and survived.
Her view: god was looking down on him

My view: The surgeon and surgical team with many years experience, modern technology and his bodys ability to withstand the trauma of the illness and operation are the reasons he survived.

m@cc@ · 30-07-2008 01:28PM

gaz wac wrote: »

Jaffas are made with eggs = cakes
Biscuits are not made with eggs = biscuits.......simple

So Tunnocks are actually biscuits?

What is your most controversial opinion?

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