What is your most controversial opinion?

Eglinton

Now before we begin, I don't intend on this thread being about bashing other posters' points of view. If you could simply state your own controversial view and perhaps some meaningful comments on others'.

Mine
I think that people who believe in a god or follow religious doctrine are somehow lacking in intelligence. I'm not saying they're all round dumb but there's some rational element of their cognitive process missing.

A lot of people I know agree with me. A lot don't and get very riled about the whole thing.

Captain Ginger

Eglinton wrote: »

Now before we begin, I don't intend on this thread being about bashing other posters' points of view. If you could simply state your own controversial view and perhaps some meaningful comments on others'.

Mine
I think that people who believe in a god or follow religious doctrine are somehow lacking in intelligence. I'm not saying they're all round dumb but there's some rational element of their cognitive process missing.

A lot of people I know agree with me. A lot don't and get very riled about the whole thing.

@OP Somewhat similar to yours but I dislike both groups.

Mine:

I think people who are think they know for a fact that God/ God type beings exists/doesn't exist are idiots, because it's impossible to prove/disprove due to it's nature.

Karoma

Every time these threads are created people get banned.
Let me make it clear: stupid hateful or trollish comments beget bans. These threads are not an excuse for muppetry.





("Begets"?! Why not?)

Honey-ec

Mine: There are some very convincing arguments for eugenics...

Piste

Our immigration laws should be severely tightened.


-Immigrants should speak at least basic English or Irish
-Immigrants who commit crimes should be booted out, our taxpayers should not have to pay to keep them here
-Our government should look after Irish citizens before foreign immigrants, i.e Irish should get first preference when it comes to social housing etc.
-Immigrants with a criminal record for serious crime (murder, assault, rape etc.) should not be allowed into the country.


Oh also if our government cannot afford a good level of healthcare/social care then it should divert money aay from foreign aid and out it towards our country. Basically our government should look after us before anyone else.

Dave!

Incest should be legal

giggidy giggidy goo

Captain Ginger

Dave! wrote: »

Incest should be legal

giggidy giggidy goo

Agreed, if I'm doing your ma I mays as well get you in with her.

biggus

I believe there's absolutely no point in having your cake if you CAN'T eat it !!!!!

m@cc@

Captain Ginger wrote: »

I think people who are think they know for a fact that God/ God type beings exists/doesn't exist are idiots, because it's impossible to prove/disprove due to it's nature.

I'm playing Devil's advocate here but you could apply the same criteria to people who don't believe in God.

gogglebok

biggus wrote: »

I believe there's absolutely no point in having your cake if you CAN'T eat it !!!!!

I believe that fighting fire with fire is almost always the second-best choice.

Earthhorse

That gogglebok is right.

Captain Ginger

m@cc@ wrote: »

I'm playing Devil's advocate here but you could apply the same criteria to people who don't believe in God.

By all means, I said that in the post hence the :

"know for a fact that God/ God type beings exists/doesn't exist are idiots"

Quazzie

I believe that we should bring back a decent prison system so that criminals actually pay heavy for their debt to society. Bring back the chain gangs!

Duggy747

Eglinton wrote: »

Mine
I think that people who believe in a god or follow religious doctrine are somehow lacking in intelligence. I'm not saying they're all round dumb but there's some rational element of their cognitive process missing.

While I don't believe in God I don't really agree with seeing those that do of a lesser intelligence of any kind. I think, however, people who are into certain bands like Coldplay or My Chemical Romance have something wrong with them

My "controversial" opinion would be people with stupid ideologies and never shut up about conformists, corporations, war, we should purchase nothing but eco-bollox, meat is bad - veggies are the best, humans are the cause for all things bad in the world, fight the power attitude should all just shut up, grow up and get a goddamn life. Whinging and complaing about the very "system" that ensures we're all not living in our own piss and shìt.

Oh, and +1 with Piste on the whole immigration and healthcare scenarios.

m@cc@

Captain Ginger wrote: »

By all means, I said that in the post hence the :

"know for a fact that God/ God type beings exists/doesn't exist are idiots"

Zing!

Kold

I believe that some people shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.

Irishcrx

I think religion has so many cracks in it that people who blindly follow it need to open there eyes. The majority of it sounds ridiculas and doesn''t make sence, I think it was used to as a means of control back in the old days to get peolpe to appeal to their morale side. In years to come I don't think it will last to be honest, the more the years go by the less and less people seem top practise.

hussey

Paris Hilton is a virgin

Dinter

I believe that changing the course of a motorway by 3km to avoid a pointless snail is Bad Business Practice.

120_Minutes

My opinion is that this country should be "cleansed" of scumbags

m@cc@

Irishcrx wrote: »

I think religion has so many cracks in it that people who blindly follow it need to open there eyes. The majority of it sounds ridiculas and doesn''t make sence, I think it was used to as a means of control back in the old days to get peolpe to appeal to their morale side. In years to come I don't think it will last to be honest, the more the years go by the less and less people seem top practise.

Depends what you mean about 'religion'.

Dinter

Irishcrx wrote: »

I think religion has so many cracks in it that people who blindly follow it need to open there eyes. The majority of it sounds ridiculas and doesn''t make sence, I think it was used to as a means of control back in the old days to get peolpe to appeal to their morale side. In years to come I don't think it will last to be honest, the more the years go by the less and less people seem top practise.

In all fairness, throughout history kings used religion as much as religion used kings.

Pen1987

That nobody should donate to animal charities. Theres human charities to donate to for fook sake! Human>stray dog everytime.

Xavi6

Piste wrote: »

Our immigration laws should be severely tightened.


-Immigrants should speak at least basic English or Irish
-Immigrants who commit crimes should be booted out, our taxpayers should not have to pay to keep them here
-Our government should look after Irish citizens before foreign immigrants, i.e Irish should get first preference when it comes to social housing etc.
-Immigrants with a criminal record for serious crime (murder, assault, rape etc.) should not be allowed into the country.


Oh also if our government cannot afford a good level of healthcare/social care then it should divert money aay from foreign aid and out it towards our country. Basically our government should look after us before anyone else.

Might be better to start with some of the natives first tbh.

Heisenberg.

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Captain Ginger

Irishcrx wrote: »

I think religion has so many cracks in it that people who blindly follow it need to open there eyes.

I agree with that to a point, to blindly follow anything is stupid.

Although there are people who really do believe in it and have done their own research into it and know that a lot of it is just BS but at the same time accept that some of it could be true.

At the same time look at all the people now a days who "blindly" say they don't believe in God and quote some internet site/tv program that they don't even understand. Then again there are people of study science and come up with answers they believe in which for them dictate there is no God.


You really have to be able to look at this from both sides.

Irishcrx

Captain Ginger wrote: »

I agree with that to a point, to blindly follow anything is stupid.

Although there are people who really do believe in it and have done their own research into it and know that a lot of it is just BS but at the same time accept that some of it could be true.

At the same time look at all the people now a days who "blindly" say they don't believe in God and quote some internet site/tv program that they don't even understand. Then again there are people of study science and come up with answers they believe in which for them dictate there is no God.


You really have to be able to look at this from both sides.

True , But i think the more hardcore religious people follow more blindly than someone who is just not arsed understanding either side . For example when I was younger I asked to many questions and the answer I usually got when I brought up anything that couldn't be answered about jesus or god etc was..."Have faith"..em no I want you to give me a reason to and explain it but it never can be. When you look at the big picture you can see how it can never work. As said back in the days of kings it was used to control people and this and that happens because it's "Gods will".

Don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with peoples faith and I think the idea of heaven and a god is a nice thought to have , when we grow older I'm sure we will find ourselfs wishing it was true it's nice to know that loved ones we have lost are happy and looking down on us etc and that when our time comes we will be re-uninated but in reality it's fairly far fetched.

prendy

Piste wrote: »

Our immigration laws should be severely tightened.


-Immigrants should speak at least basic English or Irish
-Immigrants who commit crimes should be booted out, our taxpayers should not have to pay to keep them here
-Our government should look after Irish citizens before foreign immigrants, i.e Irish should get first preference when it comes to social housing etc.
-Immigrants with a criminal record for serious crime (murder, assault, rape etc.) should not be allowed into the country.


Oh also if our government cannot afford a good level of healthcare/social care then it should divert money aay from foreign aid and out it towards our country. Basically our government should look after us before anyone else.

very very similar to my own views,

also begging should not be tollerated, anyone wishing to donate should do so to the relevant charities and then it will get to the people that really need it.

I also think prisons should not be a place where people want to go, it should be a deterrant! surely inmates could be used for some good???

another view is that Ireland has a few problems that will always hold us back
1) people hate seeing other people being successful and will always hate successfull people.
2) there are too many goody two shoes in this country.

Kinetic^

Piste wrote: »

Our immigration laws should be severely tightened.


-Immigrants should speak at least basic English or Irish
-Immigrants who commit crimes should be booted out, our taxpayers should not have to pay to keep them here
-Our government should look after Irish citizens before foreign immigrants, i.e Irish should get first preference when it comes to social housing etc.
-Immigrants with a criminal record for serious crime (murder, assault, rape etc.) should not be allowed into the country.

I agree on all accounts there.

Piste

Abortion should be legal in Ireland.

sebastianlieken

120_Minutes wrote: »

My opinion is that this country should be "cleansed" of scumbags

I absolutly agree, I think the rangers should carry out some black ops and just have a freekin field day, just annihilate them. it really has gotten out of hand latley, there are waaay to many scumbags in the country.

Im living in Germany for the moment, and frankly im amazed that "scumbags", "knackers", etc. just dont exist here!

maybe hitler had the right idea after all! *snigger*:D

another of my controversial opinions is that Hitler was an absolutley neccessary evil! In the grand scheme of things, he was benefitial to human kind.

Captain Ginger

Piste wrote: »

Abortion should be legal in Ireland.

I don't see how plain common sense it controversial


ie: I agree.

Joseph Kuhr

Ireland should be part of the UK...

Keano

Many have mentioned but it is about time that the government put the Irish people first.

m@cc@

Pen1987 wrote: »

That nobody should donate to animal charities. Theres human charities to donate to for fook sake! Human>stray dog everytime.

Littlest Hobo>Bernard McHugh everytime!

Iago

1.We should adopt an equilibrium based justice model, if someone murders someone they should get the death penalty. If they rape someone they should be castrated etc etc.

2. We should bring back corporal punishment in schools

3. Nobody should be allowed more than one period of paid maternity leave

Dinter

Irishcrx wrote: »

. . . and that when our time comes we will be re-uninated but in reality it's fairly far fetched.

Ah that's that cleared up anyway.

godtabh

Piste wrote: »

Our immigration laws should be severely tightened.


-Immigrants should speak at least basic English or Irish
-Immigrants who commit crimes should be booted out, our taxpayers should not have to pay to keep them here
-Our government should look after Irish citizens before foreign immigrants, i.e Irish should get first preference when it comes to social housing etc.
-Immigrants with a criminal record for serious crime (murder, assault, rape etc.) should not be allowed into the country.


Oh also if our government cannot afford a good level of healthcare/social care then it should divert money aay from foreign aid and out it towards our country. Basically our government should look after us before anyone else.

I would agree with that as well

Joseph Kuhr

Pen1987 wrote: »

That nobody should donate to animal charities. Theres human charities to donate to for fook sake! Human>stray dog everytime.

But animals are cute and Humans are evil. Besides my taxes already go to human charity. None of my taxes go to animal charirties.

Piste

Jaffa Cakes are cakes, not biscuits.

Earthhorse

Few people in this thread seem to understand what the word controversial means.

nomorebadtown

Piste wrote: »

-Immigrants who commit crimes should be booted out, our taxpayers should not have to pay to keep them here
-Our government should look after Irish citizens before foreign immigrants, i.e Irish should get first preference when it comes to social housing etc.

I think the fact that you have to list these opinions under the banner of 'controversial' is a disgrace and an indictment of how insane our society has become in terms of not being able to speak your mind.

Dinter

Earthhorse wrote: »

Few people in this thread seem to understand what the word controversial means.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Controversial opinion there Earthhorse. :pac:

brianthebard

Iago wrote: »

3. Nobody should be allowed more than one period of paid maternity leave

why this one?Discouraging multiple births will lead to a decline in population.

Honey-ec

brianthebard wrote: »

why this one?Discouraging multiple births will lead to a decline in population.

The world is vastly overpopulated as it is. Bring in a one-child policy everywhere, I say!!!

sebastianlieken

Joseph Kuhr wrote: »

Ireland should be part of the UK...

first off, (and this isnt asked in a derogitory tone), but why?

brianthebard wrote: »

why this one?Discouraging multiple births will lead to a decline in population.

and damn straight! there's too many bloody people in the world! and it's all due to poor people and scumbags multipling and infesting the country with their offspring for the purpose of sithing money from the government to fund their own futile, vulgar, and irretating lives.

m@cc@

Piste wrote: »

Jaffa Cakes are cakes, not biscuits.

Jaffa cakes are cakes for tax reasons. Most people who argue that jaffa cakes are cakes use the logical argument that when they are stale they go hard, whereas Digestives and Penguins go soft. Cake = hard, biscuit = soft. It was using this reasoning that McVities went to tribunal against the Inland Revenue over the jaffa cake’s status.
Basically biscuits are classed as a luxury item and incur a 17.5% VAT charge. Cakes, supposedly are basic foodstuffs and are therefore VAT exempt. The government wanted to get this tax flow and took McVities on. The soft/hard debate was what settled it.
Now what does this show? I’m sure if we really wanted we could put our Daily Mail hats on (asylum seekers, etc etc) and moan about this being another example of the waste of time that the government can be sometimes every minute of every working day. But that would be stupid, and not just because it involves thinking like a newspaper which has paid no attention at all to major revelations like it being the 21st century and Genghis Khan not being considered a good model for leadership. No, the jaffa issue is important. How would you feel if they were a luxury item? Do you want to be priced out of those delicious little pieces of joy? If small people can get away with buying kids’ shoes and not paying VAT on them, then I’m damned if (with my size 8 adult shoes) I’m paying VAT on my jaffas as well.

John Mason

certain parts of the country/dublin should have contraception put in the water to stop them breeding like rabbits

Piste

Hehe yes I know the history behind it, I was going rto cite it if anyone disagreed with me :pac:

And yes it's a shame that my view of immigration could be considered controversial , but that's the world we live in these ddays, can't say boo to a goose!

Kold

Honey-ec wrote: »

The world is vastly overpopulated as it is. Bring in a one-child policy everywhere, I say!!!

^^ Now I know f*cking is about the only thing they have going for them in the 3rd world but could they perhaps stop having 50 kids each?

seamus

1. People who end up homeless under their own steam (drugs, whatever), should be left there.

2. All male travellers should be chemically castrated.