PSNI Recruitment - Stage 3 - Vetting

PapaYankeeGirl · 23-07-2008 7:45pm

My 2 reference are an Ex police inspector and a current constable.

Everyone will know different people etc. It is tough cause you cant use employers

given1 · 23-07-2008 7:59pm

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

My 2 reference are an Ex police inspector and a current constable.

Everyone will know different people etc. It is tough cause you cant use employers

i used my old principal and a family friend who is a lawyer for c13!if you have any friends/family friends who are in a 'respected position' you can use them...

given1 · 23-07-2008 8:01pm

owen1976 wrote: »

Does anybody know at what stage of the process you can find out what your merit number is? Is it after all the A/C have been completed and the pass/fail letters have been issued?

on top of what gcbd said i think your vetting has to be complete aswell, they wdnt give me my score until my vetting had finished..

goodcopbadcop · 23-07-2008 8:16pm

I got my merit number before I had vetting forms sent out

Shield · 23-07-2008 8:50pm

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

My 2 reference are an Ex police inspector and a current constable.

Everyone will know different people etc. It is tough cause you cant use employers

Prepare for a surprise. Serving PSNI officers cannot stand as character references. If the Constable doesn't believe me, have him contact the Federation to confirm.

PapaYankeeGirl · 23-07-2008 9:07pm

Thanks for letting me know. The PSNI should have clearly stated that on the vetting.

faceman08 · 23-07-2008 9:16pm

Maybe its just me, but the whole process overall doesnt seem to be very clear. i was about to send my vetting forms back tomorrow, and one of my referees is a PSNI Costable.

As if the whole process isnt long enough, this would have delayed my application further. Should be clearly stated on the vetting form.

Thanks PSNI for advising us!!

owen1976 · 23-07-2008 9:33pm

Oh dear I'v also put down a friend of mine who is currently a serving officer!! I agree that it should have been made clear on the vetting form!!!

goodcopbadcop · 23-07-2008 9:33pm

psni wrote: »

Prepare for a surprise. Serving PSNI officers cannot stand as character references. If the Constable doesn't believe me, have him contact the Federation to confirm.

Yikes papayankee. If its the truth then its good Psni has told you, hope it doesnt delay things though.

given1 · 24-07-2008 12:12pm

what do you think it means if ive passed the a/c but yet havent received vetting forms? stuck between two things my score isnt the best or it has sonething to do with c13 which my vetting was only completed a number of months ago...

goodcopbadcop · 24-07-2008 12:14pm

Think nothing of it. So much time left to get that done. I would have to agree myself that it is likely those who scroed very well get vetting first, but what do I know.

Keep waiting is all you can really do. You passed.

given1 · 24-07-2008 12:18pm

goodcopbadcop wrote: »

Think nothing of it. So much time left to get that done. I would have to agree myself that it is likely those who scroed very well get vetting first, but what do I know.

Keep waiting is all you can really do. You passed.

just thinking that no point worrying anymore!! least i have two campaigns on the go better than nothing...

pb999 · 24-07-2008 2:31pm

dont worry mate! you dont want to fail the medical cause you've gone mental through the recruitment process!!!

as for references i just put down two friends, i guess all they are looking for is someone who has known you for years and can dish the dirt on your deepest darkest secrets!

MrsGeneHunt · 24-07-2008 2:46pm

pb999 wrote: »

dont worry mate! you dont want to fail the medical cause you've gone mental through the recruitment process!!!

as for references i just put down two friends, i guess all they are looking for is someone who has known you for years and can dish the dirt on your deepest darkest secrets!

There have been lots of postings on the old forum that apparently referees arent even contacted!!

pb999 · 24-07-2008 3:12pm

MrsGeneHunt wrote: »

There have been lots of postings on the old forum that apparently referees arent even contacted!!

maybe they are contacted if your vetting is borderline, e.g. if you have motoring offences or debts that may not necessarily preclude you on their own they contact your refs to find you what type of person/character you are before making a decision?????

who knows! i'm one to try not to listen to and get worked up by the speculation on the forums and here i am speculating myself!! :eek:

carlty888 · 24-07-2008 3:13pm

given1 wrote: »

just thinking that no point worrying anymore!! least i have two campaigns on the go better than nothing...

If I remember correctly, I got my forms a lot earlier than you in the last campaign. A campaign that you are still in the running for, while I dropped out in January. :rolleyes:

It's too early to worry about who has the forms and who doesn't. There's a long road ahead. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Rome wasn't built in blah blah blah.

given1 · 24-07-2008 3:38pm

carlty888 wrote: »

If I remember correctly, I got my forms a lot earlier than you in the last campaign. A campaign that you are still in the running for, while I dropped out in January. :rolleyes:

It's too early to worry about who has the forms and who doesn't. There's a long road ahead. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Rome wasn't built in blah blah blah.

cheers carlty888, youve helped me relax about the whole vetting! i should look at the postitives rather than the negatives:)

lol thanks to pb999 aswell, dont want the blood pressure going through the roof:D lol

uncleneilly · 25-07-2008 8:20pm

psni wrote: »

Prepare for a surprise. Serving PSNI officers cannot stand as character references. If the Constable doesn't believe me, have him contact the Federation to confirm.

didn't know that myself, i used a police officer and he mustn't have been aware either, in saying that i sent it away last november and they haven't contacted any of my referees(and i just sent his name away again for vetting in campaign 14)

JVB · 25-07-2008 8:33pm

I think it's been said on here before that they don't approach your referee's. I used a good friend and a work superior/mate. I mean they're hardly going to give me a poor reference are they? I don't understand why serving officers can't supply one though?

I read somewhere that they only approach your referee's if there are concerns regarding your vetting (like integrity maybe?!?)
I know that mine haven't been contacted and I passed vetting in April and start in Nov.

Gee-22 · 25-07-2008 11:09pm

Hi Folks

On Thursday i recieved a letter to say i had passed the a/c and the psni would be in touch for the next stages in Sept.

On the same day a freind phoned me to say he had just got a vetting letter, even though he will not find out if he passed the a/c for another 4 weeks.

Can anyone one explain why he got a vetting form?

Many Thanks

goodcopbadcop · 25-07-2008 11:22pm

At this time no one can explain why he got one, but I am likely to believe it is due to having got a fairly good score.

Gee-22 · 25-07-2008 11:24pm

goodcopbadcop wrote: »

At this time no one can explain why he got one, but I am likely to believe it is due to having got a fairly good score.

Thats what i was worried about.:(

Just very quick if he only did the a/c a week ago.

goodcopbadcop · 25-07-2008 11:27pm

Well it makes sense thats why he got it.

Last campaign it seemed that those who scored highest got vetting and medical first.

So this time it seems the same thing is happening, only now they are making a quicker start on it so that people will be through the process and ready to start when the time comes.

Dont take this at truth its just what I make of it all. You may still have scored well yourself,dont panic yet.

Gee-22 · 25-07-2008 11:32pm

goodcopbadcop wrote: »

Well it makes sense thats why he got it.

Last campaign it seemed that those who scored highest got vetting and medical first.

So this time it seems the same thing is happening, only now they are making a quicker start on it so that people will be through the process and ready to start when the time comes.

Dont take this at truth its just what I make of it all. You may still have scored well yourself,dont panic yet.

Ok thanks for your help with this, i will just continue to keep my fingers and toes crossed.

MrsGeneHunt · 26-07-2008 8:47am

goodcopbadcop wrote: »

Well it makes sense thats why he got it.

Last campaign it seemed that those who scored highest got vetting and medical first.

So this time it seems the same thing is happening, only now they are making a quicker start on it so that people will be through the process and ready to start when the time comes.

GCBC I think you're right. They have obviously picked a benchmark score and people hitting this or above are getting Vetted quickly. My moneys also on Medicals starting before the end of August.
Some people are getting pass letters well before the six weeks are up as well.
I'd say there will be C14 candidates going in with the tail end of C13 intakes at this rate of going.

And fingers crossed you get the call next week chum;)

FootyFan24 · 28-07-2008 11:42am

I read on the post somewhere that it can take up to 1 year to finish vetting if you aren't from N. Ireland. Well I am but my partner isn't. Will that influence the time it'll take to get the vetting finished?

MrsGeneHunt · 28-07-2008 11:43am

FootyFan24 wrote: »

I read on the post somewhere that it can take up to 1 year to finish vetting if you aren't from N. Ireland. Well I am but my partner isn't. Will that influence the time it'll take to get the vetting finished?

There have been instances of the GS taking a year to process Vetting.
Theres no way you can hurry it up, when its done, its done!

Zzoop · 28-07-2008 6:49pm

Hey all!

I've had word that someone has recieved a letter back saying that they have passed their vetting - and they only sent their forms away maybe 3 weeks ago! Is that unusually fast?? What's happening?! Anyone else here passed their vetting already?

goodcopbadcop · 28-07-2008 6:51pm

They must be taking the hand. Don't see how they could vet someone so quick, especially when people from campaign 13 are still being vetted

MrsGeneHunt · 28-07-2008 7:35pm

Feck!

No-one tell PYG she'll bust a gut!!!!!!!!:eek:

carlty888 · 28-07-2008 7:49pm

MrsGeneHunt wrote: »

Feck!

No-one tell PYG she'll bust a gut!!!!!!!!:eek:

Never a truer word has been said. Quick, start editng those last couple of posts!

alanbelfast · 28-07-2008 7:53pm

Jim got vetted and started in 6 weeks. He finished his ac........Got vet forms.....did med......started!
Think it all depends on how much info they have to process

PapaYankeeGirl · 28-07-2008 8:53pm

Too late PYG has read it. Im not fussed about vetting because 3/4 of mine was N/A and they rest is very straight forward. Im just relieved i passed the AC.

MrFug · 28-07-2008 9:08pm

PYG, have you received your pass letter yet? Or are you taking the vetting forms to mean you've passed. I'm in the same boat as you, having received the vetting forms a fortnight after sitting the A/C. If you've got your pass letter, how long after the AC did it arrive?

Thanks

PapaYankeeGirl · 28-07-2008 9:14pm

Hey MrFug.

*I had my Ac on 9th June
*Got vetting forms on 21st June
*Sent vetting away on 25th June
*Got Ac pass letter there on thursday- 6 weeks 3days after my AC.

Though many got theirs well within the 6 weeks time frame.

MrsGeneHunt · 28-07-2008 9:20pm

PapaYankeeGirl will C14s Jim - first out of the gate and first past the post ( or the gates of garnerville! ):D

PapaYankeeGirl · 28-07-2008 9:22pm

MrsGeneHunt wrote: »

PapaYankeeGirl will C14s Jim - first out of the gate and first past the post ( or the gates of garnerville! ):D

What??

MrsGeneHunt · 28-07-2008 9:24pm

There was a guy called Jim whowas in C13 and whizzed through the process - he acually went into Garnerville with C12 candidates.

So there you have it, the legend of Jim!!

Thats you that is!!!

PapaYankeeGirl · 28-07-2008 9:27pm

MrsGeneHunt wrote: »

There was a guy called Jim whowas in C13 and whizzed through the process - he acually went into Garnerville with C12 candidates.

So there you have it, the legend of Jim!!

Thats you that is!!!

Oh thanks I feel like a legend!!!!:D:D

Im away to watch TV. Il be on later!!! Was having a shufty at the menu there. YUM YUM

dvc1976 · 29-07-2008 1:34pm

Hello all, I just want to say that I think this theory (about receiving vet. forms quickly after the AC means a high score) just can't be right. I left the AC almost certain that I'd performed badly - I went about one of the role plays from totally the wrong angle and felt like a right plonker in the situational interview -yet I recieved my vet. forms within two weeks and recieved my pass letter today. Also, in the last campaign everything flew really quickly after the AC. Medical and vetting both cleared within 8 weeks- subscribing to the theory of "speed=good" I figured I was in, but alas the "dear john" arrived at the begining of January.
Last year I really put my life on hold for this, but this time around I'm just gonna relax and let things run their course - I suggest everyone else does the same.
Best of luck !!

carlty888 · 29-07-2008 1:52pm

dvc1976 wrote: »

Hello all, I just want to say that I think this theory (about receiving vet. forms quickly after the AC means a high score) just can't be right. I left the AC almost certain that I'd performed badly - I went about one of the role plays from totally the wrong angle and felt like a right plonker in the situational interview -yet I recieved my vet. forms within two weeks and recieved my pass letter today. Also, in the last campaign everything flew really quickly after the AC. Medical and vetting both cleared within 8 weeks- subscribing to the theory of "speed=good" I figured I was in, but alas the "dear john" arrived at the begining of January.
Last year I really put my life on hold for this, but this time around I'm just gonna relax and let things run their course - I suggest everyone else does the same.
Best of luck !!

I had the same experience as you last time round. Glad to hear I wasn't the only one to go through the vetting & medical only to receive a "Dear John" in January. Never got any feedback about my vetting though.

In C13 people got vetted early. Some started at Garnerville, some got dropped.

Vetting, at this stage, means nothing more than that you've passed the A/C. I can't conceive why anyone failing would be vetted and to date this seems to be the case.

Still, you may find that it's anyone scoring late 40's and above who are receiving the forms. Not necessarily good enough to get in, but not a bad score.

carlty888 · 29-07-2008 1:55pm

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

Oh thanks I feel like a legend!!!!:D:D

You are!! The leg-end of PapaYankeeGirl will live forever!

dvc1976 · 29-07-2008 2:08pm

carlty888 wrote: »

Still, you may find that it's anyone scoring late 40's and above who are receiving the forms. Not necessarily good enough to get in, but not a bad score.

Seems a bit of a waste of time/resources don't you think?

Do you know the required score to get in or is it literally from the highest scoring applicant downwards until they reach their target numbers?

Theoretically, if everyone performed badly at AC they would still have to take the top 440 wouldn't they?:D;)

MrFug · 29-07-2008 2:18pm

dvc1976, my situation is pretty close to yours. I received vets and a pass form early despite having left the A/C thinking I had made a bollox of it in parts.

It's easy to get too wrapped up in all the positive conjecture about what receiving forms early means. The PSNI is an extremely difficult profession to enter so even from the outset, without sound too pessimistic, it's always 'unlikely' that we will get in. That's just the nature of the beast.

I'm just thankful I've gotten this far, which is an achievement in itself, but I agree with what your saying. We should keep our feet on the ground and not read too much into when we receive forms.

dvc1976 · 29-07-2008 2:23pm

Couldn't have put it any better than that MrFug!!!

carlty888 · 29-07-2008 3:00pm

dvc1976 wrote: »

Seems a bit of a waste of time/resources don't you think?

Do you know the required score to get in or is it literally from the highest scoring applicant downwards until they reach their target numbers?

Theoretically, if everyone performed badly at AC they would still have to take the top 440 wouldn't they?:D;)

The PSNI will take the highest scoring applicants (dependant on passing medical and vetting). Top 220 RC's, top 220 non-RC's.

In the last campaign a score in the late 40's and above was good enough for RC's and mid-late 50's for non-RC's.

These scores are no guarantee however. Technically someone could score 60 and not get in because 220 people from his religeous background score higher. Likewise, if everyone performs badly, a lower score could be good enough.

dvc1976 · 29-07-2008 3:07pm

I figured it was like that, there must've been loads of really high scoring candidates last campaign 'cos my score at the AC last year was pretty high and I still didn't get!!!!:o

carlty888 · 29-07-2008 3:08pm

MrFug wrote: »

I'm just thankful I've gotten this far, which is an achievement in itself, but I agree with what your saying. We should keep our feet on the ground and not read too much into when we receive forms.

You're probably right. I have a tendency to let my over-optimism get the better of me. Only setting myself up for a hard fall.

That's what happened last year. Will I ever learn?? :rolleyes: Probably not. Roll on the medicals!!

Zzoop · 29-07-2008 3:10pm

Good news for everybody then! I haven't got my vetting forms yet but got my pass letter - so based on the info of this board - that suggests I've got a low pass mark on the AC! - You can count on me to drag the average down!

"High Five"

dvc1976 · 29-07-2008 3:14pm

Allright allright, I know we're talking about keeping our feet on the ground, but you don't have to go and boot yerself in the gutz!!!!:D:D

PSNI Recruitment - Stage 3 - Vetting

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