Has anyone heard of anyone having equipment confiscated at a rave?

Run_to_da_hills · 23-07-2008 05:24PM #1

Has anyone heard of anyone having equipment confiscated at an unauthorised rave? I heard of record collections and amplifiers taken away by the cops from mates that had these in the past mainly just to shut the show down and to make sure that the sounds don't start up again.

Most cases I have heard the guys have got their gear back from the cops the following day when they have called down to the station. I was at one "party" where the cops called out and reckoned that there would have been more trouble if they had stopped it, they let it go on and went away. Has anyone ever heard of stuff confiscated?

DJ_Spider · 24-07-2008 01:14AM

Just found this:

The NYT writes this morning about the arrest of DJ Drama and what that means for your mixtapes.

"On Tuesday night he was arrested with Don Cannon, a protégé. The police, working with the Recording Industry Association of America, raided his office, at 147 Walker Street in Atlanta. The association makes no distinction between counterfeit CDs and unlicensed compilations like those that DJ Drama is known for. So the police confiscated 81,000 discs, four vehicles, recording gear, and “other assets that are proceeds of a pattern of illegal activity,” said Chief Jeffrey C. Baker, from the Morrow, Ga., police department, which participated in the raid.

Run_to_da_hills · 24-07-2008 10:24AM

DJ_Spider wrote: »

Just found this:

The NYT writes this morning about the arrest of DJ Drama and what that means for your mixtapes.

"On Tuesday night he was arrested with Don Cannon, a protégé. The police, working with the Recording Industry Association of America, raided his office, at 147 Walker Street in Atlanta. The association makes no distinction between counterfeit CDs and unlicensed compilations like those that DJ Drama is known for. So the police confiscated 81,000 discs, four vehicles, recording gear, and “other assets that are proceeds of a pattern of illegal activity,” said Chief Jeffrey C. Baker, from the Morrow, Ga., police department, which participated in the raid.

Any decent rave that I have ever been at would use only Technics 1210's and 100% legal and original Vinyl recordings, CDs and MP3s at a rave would be considered bad practice. The only reason cops would intervene would be if they suspected drug abuse or to keep the noise down. Being involved in a counterfeirt operation is a different matter altogether.

L1011 · 24-07-2008 10:38AM

I'm utterly, utterly confused by this thread already

DJ Spider responds with something off topic, RTDH takes said off-topic and runs with it on the original topic, while demonstrating its still clearly 1999 somewhere in his world.

CD piracy, which is what DJS mentioned, has nothing to do with 'illegal' raves, which, believe me, would have CDJs at them these days.

Run_to_da_hills · 24-07-2008 11:08AM

MYOB wrote: »

I'm utterly, utterly confused by this thread already

DJ Spider responds with something off topic, RTDH takes said off-topic and runs with it on the original topic, while demonstrating its still clearly 1999 somewhere in his world.

CD piracy, which is what DJS mentioned, has nothing to do with 'illegal' raves, which, believe me, would have CDJs at them these days.

I would be very reluctant to bring my CDJ Mk2's to any "unauthorised" rave :eek: Its vinyl or nothing. If I was to compromise with another form i.e MP3s it would be with a laptop and a sketch setup. I have been to parties out in the middle of no where equipment has been exposed to the weather, sand, and traipsing across fields etc. Decks will take allot more abuse than CdJs.

24-07-2008 11:30AM

Erm,

If your talking about over here, yes stuff has been confiscated, radio station I used to play on had a rave a couple of years back, got busted and they withheld the equipment for the guts of 18 months until the court case came up!

I think Cozzy who used to run the Creation parties had some gear confiscated after one of the parties, but I dont think it matters what medium your using to play IE CDjs / Vinyl etc?

Id bring my cdj1000s to a party no bother, as I dont use vinyl anymore, Id make sure to be not too far from them if the fuzz decided to put a halt to things though!!!

Cops will take what they want if they feel like it, dont think it matters the medium used, never saw them take records though....

L1011 · 24-07-2008 12:06PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I would be very reluctant to bring my CDJ Mk2's to any "unauthorised" rave :eek: Its vinyl or nothing. If I was to compromise with another form i.e MP3s it would be with a laptop and a sketch setup. I have been to parties out in the middle of no where equipment has been exposed to the weather, sand, and traipsing across fields etc. Decks will take allot more abuse than CdJs.

My Mk1's have taken worlds of abuse and work fine, and CDs are far sturdier than vinyl. The few 'beach parties' I've been to (and I don't mean the one in Portrush!) I've been to have been CD based - far less to carry.

Run_to_da_hills · 24-07-2008 12:25PM

MYOB wrote: »

My Mk1's have taken worlds of abuse and work fine, and CDs are far sturdier than vinyl. The few 'beach parties' I've been to (and I don't mean the one in Portrush!) I've been to have been CD based - far less to carry.

Would you trust anyone else using your gear at a "beach party"?

L1011 · 24-07-2008 12:40PM

No. I don't trust anyone else CARRYING my gear, let alone using it anywhere.

Run_to_da_hills · 24-07-2008 12:52PM

MYOB wrote: »

No. I don't trust anyone else CARRYING my gear, let alone using it anywhere.

Im the same, If my gear goes out im with it all night. Thats why I think an old set of decks would be more suitable than a valuable set of CdJs, they can be set up and left all night for anyone to play their set, worst thing that can happen is a damaged needle.

DJ_Spider · 24-07-2008 03:18PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

worst thing that can happen is a damaged needle.

Or used for mixing cocktails! Or nicked! :rolleyes:

L1011 · 24-07-2008 03:55PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Im the same, If my gear goes out im with it all night. Thats why I think an old set of decks would be more suitable than a valuable set of CdJs, they can be set up and left all night for anyone to play their set, worst thing that can happen is a damaged needle.

My oldest CDJ100s are worth significantly less than an 'old set' of 1210s these days I'd guess... and decks can be drink-destroyed just as easily as CDJs.

And believe me, I'm a pro at drying CDJs out!

Run_to_da_hills · 24-07-2008 04:33PM

MYOB wrote: »

My oldest CDJ100s are worth significantly less than an 'old set' of 1210s these days I'd guess... and decks can be drink-destroyed just as easily as CDJs.

And believe me, I'm a pro at drying CDJs out!

Did you ever get sand inside your CDJ's???:D A good set of mark 1's will always be worth a few bob just like Technics. Some people like myseld prefere to play WAV fileis ie ordinary cds and couldnt be bothered with the complicated MP3 capabilities of the Mark3's If I want to play MP3s on my decks I use a scratch set up. This is what happened to the mark 2 technics and why they still remain the most popular of the series despite bringing out the mark 5. Anyone who dosen't carry their CDJs in flight cases dosen't derseve to have them. I have seen guys arrive up at gigs with these piled on on another in cardboard boxes

L1011 · 24-07-2008 05:24PM

Note that I said 100s not 1000s! 100s are pretty much worthless these days.

FruitLover · 24-07-2008 10:20PM

As Fieldog says, the creation lads have had thousands' worth of gear confiscated over the years.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Any decent rave that I have ever been at would use only Technics 1210's and 100% legal and original Vinyl recordings, CDs and MP3s at a rave would be considered bad practice

Bollocks, you can't have any sort of a serious DJ setup without CD decks these days. Not having CD decks available is considered bad practice.

Run_to_da_hills · 24-07-2008 10:32PM

FruitLover wrote: »

As Fieldog says, the creation lads have had thousands' worth of gear confiscated over the years.

Bollocks, you can't have any sort of a serious DJ setup without CD decks these days. Not having CD decks available is considered bad practice.

The next thing they will be allowing lads playing off laptops at a rave :rolleyes:

seannash · 24-07-2008 10:57PM

FruitLover wrote: »

As Fieldog says, the creation lads have had thousands' worth of gear confiscated over the years.

Bollocks, you can't have any sort of a serious DJ setup without CD decks these days. Not having CD decks available is considered bad practice.

yeah what sort of ridiculous statement is that,no cds at a "rave".
cmon now.

Scubadevils · 24-07-2008 11:08PM

Do they still have raves?

jonny68 · 24-07-2008 11:12PM

Yeah ive been at many illegal Raves that the filth have raided and confiscated the equipment while junkies are out robbing houses and mugging people and getting away with it and here they are hassling ravers doing no harm.:mad:

Scubadevils · 24-07-2008 11:15PM

Run_to_da_hills · 24-07-2008 11:25PM

jonny68 wrote: »

Yeah ive been at many illegal Raves that the filth have raided and confiscated the equipment while junkies are out robbing houses and mugging people and getting away with it and here they are hassling ravers doing no harm.:mad:

They are called police men, not filth

eamonhonda · 25-07-2008 12:22PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They are called police men, not filth

They are called Gardaí not police men.:D:D

L1011 · 25-07-2008 12:35PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The next thing they will be allowing lads playing off laptops at a rave :rolleyes:

Using rolleyes at the suggest of CDJs being used shows you're horrifically out of touch. Vinyl-**** went out of fashion some years ago.

Run_to_da_hills · 25-07-2008 01:14PM

MYOB wrote: »

Using rolleyes at the suggest of CDJs being used shows you're horrifically out of touch. Vinyl-**** went out of fashion some years ago.

Real DJ's still use Vinyl

25-07-2008 02:22PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Real DJ's still use Vinyl

Bull**** of the highest order, im a "real" dj and I used to use vinyl, until I had to get 2 discs removed from my spine from carrying my record bag to gigs and radio 3 times a week, I was out of work a yr and a half as a private patient and it was all because of me carrying my record bag to and from gigs and the radio all the time that actually caused the injury!

At that stage I was already using 1 cdj1000 with my sets so I stopped carrying vinyl altogether and bought another cdj1000, I still use vinyl the very odd time but I gave up paying 11.99 for a track im gonna play 1 side of and started buying high quality mp3s, the 1 side of the vinyl I would have payed 12 quid for I now get for €2.00!

I can do better things now with cds now than I ever could with vinyl, hot cue, looping, reverse etc, all saved on my memory card - you get my drift

And now most producers these days who are releasing "digital only" as b-sides, I can think of Marco Carola, MNus crew and a few others off the top of my head!

That old vinyl vs cd debate is an old chestnut and the argument isnt valid as far as im concerned, whatever medium you use to play, well and good......

As long as its not a ****in laptop!

Laptop djs have small penises

L1011 · 25-07-2008 03:40PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Real DJ's still use Vinyl

No, boring old farts use vinyl. Everyone else might use it if they don't have the CD in question. Your argument sounds like all the stuff that was already sounding tired in 2003.

Last ten gigs I've been at / been involved with where there were 1210s provided - they never got used. Last time I saw vinyl being used in a set was when I was present at (rather than 'attending' I must add) a Scot Project gig. And it was just him, not any of the supporting acts.

Last time *I* used vinyl was to rip a Rodd-Y-Ler 12" I bought on eBay. Cables in to PC, ripped, CD burnt, deck put back in case and back in spare room.

jonny68 · 25-07-2008 03:56PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They are called police men, not filth

call them what you like i despise them.

Run_to_da_hills · 25-07-2008 05:20PM

Fieldog wrote: »

Bull**** of the highest order, im a "real" dj and I used to use vinyl, until I had to get 2 discs removed from my spine from carrying my record bag to gigs and radio 3 times a week, I was out of work a yr and a half as a private patient and it was all because of me carrying my record bag to and from gigs and the radio all the time that actually caused the injury!

At that stage I was already using 1 cdj1000 with my sets so I stopped carrying vinyl altogether and bought another cdj1000, I still use vinyl the very odd time but I gave up paying 11.99 for a track im gonna play 1 side of and started buying high quality mp3s, the 1 side of the vinyl I would have payed 12 quid for I now get for €2.00!

I can do better things now with cds now than I ever could with vinyl, hot cue, looping, reverse etc, all saved on my memory card - you get my drift

And now most producers these days who are releasing "digital only" as b-sides, I can think of Marco Carola, MNus crew and a few others off the top of my head!

That old vinyl vs cd debate is an old chestnut and the argument isnt valid as far as im concerned, whatever medium you use to play, well and good...

As long as its not a ****in laptop!

Laptop djs have small penises

Well you must be donkeys years behind times. Modern day Vinyl DJs carry just 3 time coded disks, a scratching amp with a laptop and their playlist on MP3. One can legally download almost any track that was once only reserved to Vinyl on line from several sites. I use the OODJ, CDJ1000's MK2s and Technics 1210;s MK2; and can use them all with MP3s. There is far more satisfaction quing up tracks on a pair of decks dropping a needle than pressing buttons and looking at numbers. As a back up I would still carry hard copies as I would never depend on MP3s.

L1011 · 25-07-2008 06:32PM

That is *not* vinyl DJing, thats laptop DJing with a controller. That the controller happens to be blip disks doesn't change a thing.

Run_to_da_hills · 26-07-2008 09:50AM

MYOB wrote: »

That is *not* vinyl DJing, thats laptop DJing with a controller. That the controller happens to be blip disks doesn't change a thing.

It looks the part

Scubadevils · 26-07-2008 10:42AM

MYOB wrote: »

No, boring old farts use vinyl.

Has anyone heard of anyone having equipment confiscated at a rave?

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