Yet another bouncer thread!

connundrum · 12-07-2008 02:07PM

jank wrote: »

I wanted their ID number because i had a grevince with them. They did leave me in to have a look in the pub after 40 minutes waiting. The chances of me finding my jumper would have been a lot higher if they let me in sooner. I was pi$$ed of at that. Grand my fault at the end of the day i should have maybe put it in the cloak room at the start of the night but the fact they they let in about 20 other people to look for friends, coats etc when i was standing there gave me the impression that they were just waiting for me to lose patience and go home without my jumper.

None of the other 20 people were removed from the pub earlier due to intoxication, which is why they probably were let wander back in.

Take it on the chin, don't bring a jumper, don't drink too much and keep your camera phone in your pocket. Lesson learned.

Gone West · 12-07-2008 02:09PM

Dude, you were drunk. they werent.
Hard to believe that 3 sober guys who do that for a living all were in the wrong, when the other side of the argument is one drunk guy who had just gotten thrown out of their pub!

jesus_thats_gre · 12-07-2008 02:16PM

biting lip....

jesus_thats_gre · 12-07-2008 02:17PM

Zzippy wrote: »

Hehe, karma for trolling in the GAA forum! :pac:

Oh, and learn to spell!

Should see what he is like on the Soccer forum

Can't imagine what he would be like in person :cool:

longshanks · 12-07-2008 02:37PM

FuzzyLogic wrote: »

Dude, you were drunk. they werent.
Hard to believe that 3 sober guys who do that for a living all were in the wrong, when the other side of the argument is one drunk guy who had just gotten thrown out of their pub!

thats a bit naive in fairness. being drunk doesn't automatically put you at fault. just the same as being on a door doesn't always mean you're a well behaved, tolerant and fair minded individual. and when one doorman makes a move all the other doormen automatically back him up, no questions asked. in that job thats the way it has to be, but it can lead to situations.
seems to me like everyone involved is at some fault here

Gone West · 12-07-2008 02:56PM

longshanks wrote: »

being drunk doesn't automatically put you at fault.

I agree, but chances are that the drunk guy who wasn't thrown out of the pub for no reason was at fault, as opposed to three sober people.

Maybe the bouncers were out of line, but a complaint will go nowhere, really. The gardai will side with the bouncers.

Sherifu · 12-07-2008 03:05PM

Dunno why you needed the numbers of the bouncers. I think you should stop whinging and take your beating.

Phototoxin · 12-07-2008 05:05PM

firstly making someone delete a photo is classed as assault. second if you're in a public place then there should be no issue with taking photos.
3rd they arent the police they have no right to assault you.

i dont know about asking for numbers but it seems like throwing weight around to me.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 12-07-2008 05:16PM

Going by the OP's account of the whole situation it reads to me as though the security staff were more than resonable, in fact it sounds as though they went out of their way to accommodate the OP in getting his jumper back.

Most security staff would have told the OP to come back the next day for his jumper, after all they do have better things to do than pamper a drunk. But, they were good guys and went that extra yard.

OP I think you were lucky that the cop didn't arrest you for causing a public order offence.

As regards the photo, OP someday (when you grow and mature a little) you'll realise the folly of such an action.

Boggles · 12-07-2008 05:36PM

Must have been a nice jumper.

PrivateEye · 12-07-2008 06:33PM

"How're ya son"

"Having a good night...."

"Had a few drinks?"

"They your mates there behind ya..."

"You feeling well son..."

Remember the first time I went out with a mate who'd just turned 18. Thought they actually gave a damn about what kind of day he had, chatting away to the lads on the door :rolleyes: I've never been turned down from a nightclub, the one time I was turned away from a pub (which I knew was owned by a local wouldbe Fianna Fail TD) I talked my way in by pretending to be Ogra Fianna Fail and playing up makey uppy family connections. The joys of being a politico.

Don't mess with bouncers. I've seen them make absolute SH!TE of people.

truecrippler · 12-07-2008 07:52PM

Nice bouncer thread OP, very successful. :cool:

You were kicked out for being drunk,so obviously you were disturbing people in the club and it's one of the bouncers duties to keep the peace during business hours.

Fair enough, the bouncers shouldn't have 'assaulted' you but you took their picture which possibly offended them somehow.

Moral of the story: Buy 2 of the same jumper.

Esel · 12-07-2008 08:06PM

Phototoxin wrote: »

3rd they arent the police they have no right to assault you.

So, the police do? OK. :eek:

Gillie · 12-07-2008 10:36PM

nevaeh-2die-4 wrote: »

Are you a mod Gillie??? No

then mind your own business

No i'm not a mod! Are you 14? Why can't you use proper English?

Package · 13-07-2008 01:44AM

ok, i have a serious dislike for bouncers. but i wont go into the millions stories. instead, ill use the latest one..

i stay away from town, for the simple fact of the old "not tongiht" ****e and the "now **** off" attitude used by most of the morons they put holding up doors in town.

long story short

after a gig a couple of weeks ago, got 2 taxis from the national stadium, me and friends in the 1st, brother and friend in the second. we arranged to meet at the porterhouse central. we got in, even though ive never been there before. my brother, who is "normal" looking got stopped. when i asked the dorrman why. he said its because he didnt know my brother. to which i replied, "you dont know me, and you still let me in" . now what type of reason to refuse someone is " idont know you" . everyone in the club is close personal friends huh?

anyway, i went in,, took my rfiends, and we had a fantastic night in bruxelles. moral? dont drink in clubs with muppets on the door and town will be a better place to socialise

jank · 13-07-2008 09:55AM

This issue has been resolved more or less.

Called into this place yesterday and talked to a manager. I wanted to air my grievance and that i did. Manager in charge actually said that the person in charge last night wanted to talk to me. I called in again later to meet said manager.

I discussed my version of events which in general matched theirs without placing too much empahsise on things like every word said and i was grabed from the front not behind etc. They said nobody was left in after 2:00. This was obviously a lie but lets not go there. They tried to undermine my story like i was sober you had drink, CCTV, audio can prove it etc. I had nothing to hide whatsoever and i know what happened. Manager was very defensive at the start but calmed down later especially when bruises were shown.

Anyway the big issue with them was the photo and the security issue of it. I understood that completely and appologised for this. I did not know that this was illegal (im still unsure if this is or not.) They have a policy and a precendant to follow and fair enough they will keep following it.

I told them that i felt that i was handled overly agressively. Showed them said bruises on arm and shoulder. Manager accepted one of them as being caused by them denied the other even though one can clearly make out 3 fingers on the bruise. Anyway they accepted they may have been over agressive and appologised. Also stated that I was unhappy about an item taken from my pocket without my consent and not in the presense of a garda. I made it known that this was not on, WAS illeagal no matter what!!.
If this type of thing was common it could open up a huge can of worms like illegal substances being planted on someone for example. This was accepted and they appologised for that. I said i was sorry for having too much drink and annoying ye last night and this was accepted. We shook hands and that was that.

I put my hand up and accepted my share of the blame and so did they.
The matter is over IMO. Im sure othters would have made nothing out of this and others would be threatning court action etc. I took the middle road and just talked to them.

What is important to note is that i did not act aggressively (nor was accused of it) either verbally or physically. It was suggested that my presence being there may have been deemed agressive but thats not here nor there and can be open to interpretation.
I was not a danger to myself or to others. If i was i would have been arrested by the garda's that arrived shortly. They told me go home, walk away i wasnt happy but i did. What i think happened then is that the garda may have told them off on what happened re illeagal search.
Manager wanted to meet me to clear the air, nip any issues in the bud and that we did.

You can read into this story all you want. Just another bouncer thread as the title suggests. Im sure there will be another one along shortly.:)

padi89 · 13-07-2008 10:13AM

Fair play Jank at least you had the balls to followed it up.

Yet another bouncer thread!

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