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Racist Children? WTF?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    neophobia is widespread amongst the animal kingdom. nothing new here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    i read a story the other week, probably here, that a police department in england were planning to send a postcard around the area at christmas that featured a dog. Apparently dogs are considered unclean in islam so someone complained and the card was changed

    this particular case may not be true as i can't remember where i heard it but stuff like this does happen and this kind of thing pisses me right off. Why would you move to a country where the actions of the people of said country are deeply offensive to you?

    Why do these idiots insist that we live by their rules in our country? All muslims that are willing to let me live my life the way i want are more than welcome but i wish these fundamentalist dickheads would just **** off back to a muslim country, rather than coming to a country they despise and trying to change that country because their imaginary friend tells them they should


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Jigsaw


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    i read a story the other week, probably here, that a police department in england were planning to send a postcard around the area at christmas that featured a dog. Apparently dogs are considered unclean in islam so someone complained and the card was changed

    this particular case may not be true as i can't remember where i heard it but stuff like this does happen and this kind of thing pisses me right off. Why would you move to a country where the actions of the people of said country are deeply offensive to you?

    Why do these idiots insist that we live by their rules in our country? All muslims that are willing to let me live my life the way i want are more than welcome but i wish these fundamentalist dickheads would just **** off back to a muslim country, rather than coming to a country they despise and trying to change that country because their imaginary friend tells them they should

    Agree wholeheartedly. Muslims should be welcomed to western European nations and given every opportunity to integrate successfully, as many do. I used to live in Manchester which had a much larger Muslim contingent than any Irish city and some of them were absolutely lovely people and I had a couple of friends who were Muslims - top blokes. They made an effort to make friends with local people and to integrate and contribute to society positively.

    If, however, any given Muslim doesn't like what is going on in the host country in question and preach jihad and encourage young impressionable Muslims to support/practice terrorism, they should be HUNTED TO F**K out of the country and sent back to whatever dive they came from. It is laughable to see the toothless police in London completely powerless due to a variety of overly PC laws, with mad Muslim renegade clerics advocating the annihilation of western values, yet they came here through choice. B@stards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    i read a story the other week, probably here, that a police department in england were planning to send a postcard around the area at christmas that featured a dog. Apparently dogs are considered unclean in islam so someone complained and the card was changed

    this particular case may not be true as i can't remember where i heard it but stuff like this does happen and this kind of thing pisses me right off. Why would you move to a country where the actions of the people of said country are deeply offensive to you?

    Why do these idiots insist that we live by their rules in our country? All muslims that are willing to let me live my life the way i want are more than welcome but i wish these fundamentalist dickheads would just **** off back to a muslim country, rather than coming to a country they despise and trying to change that country because their imaginary friend tells them they should

    Well said.
    *Hits imaginery AH thanks button* :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    The part I find hilarious is that saying "they smell" is considered racist, fact is the cultural variation in diet means that people from different cultures do in fact smell different. As such it's about as racist IMO as saying that Africans are black.
    If you said "they smell bad", well it's borderline racist but at the same time some people just don't like the smell of certain foods so should they be called racist because of that?:rolleyes:

    I am starting to feel that we need to back away from the overly PC culture, sorry, Culturally Sensitive culture:rolleyes:, and if someone doesn't like what they find in a country they are a guest in tell them to sod off home.
    I don't see Irish people protesting over the availability of Guiness in supermarkets in Iran afterall. Then you also get people hiding behind peoples' ignorance of their culture and the fear of being regarded as un-PC should you challenge their claims; e.g. the muslim Tesco workers who were refusing to stock shelves with alcohol trying to claim that the religion didn't allow them to touch it or even the container it was in.
    Problem is the longer we cling to the desire to be PC/CS the more severe the eventual backlash will probably be, as such I worry that this constant drive to witchhunt for non-PC behaviour is only boosting the popularity of extremist groups such as the BNP.:(

    People who are devoted to their religion and who's religion clearly considers killing a great sin use that as a way to avoid military service on the continent, instead doing public service. Surely the same logic should work the opposite way for those who want to force the service (i.e. a potential job) to change just to suit their religion, i.e. if your religion has a problem with it then seek a different job.
    E.g. If I were a devout Christian/Jew (comes from the old testament) I could completely refuse to work Saturdays as it is the Sabbath and I must pray, do you think any employer would humour that at all? I don't think so, I'd be up in front of a disciplinary discussion with my manager and HR in no time. Jewelery is not allowed in my workplace for safety reasons, what if I wanted to wear a crucifix? Again, I'd be told to take it off, yet there was outcry over a Sikh being told he couldn't wear his turban while on duty as a garda.
    Why should things be any different for the minority religions? In our zealous charge towards equality are we not in fact creating a different kind of inequality?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    i read a story the other week, probably here, that a police department in england were planning to send a postcard around the area at christmas that featured a dog. Apparently dogs are considered unclean in islam so someone complained and the card was changed

    this particular case may not be true as i can't remember where i heard it but stuff like this does happen and this kind of thing pisses me right off. Why would you move to a country where the actions of the people of said country are deeply offensive to you?

    Why do these idiots insist that we live by their rules in our country? All muslims that are willing to let me live my life the way i want are more than welcome but i wish these fundamentalist dickheads would just **** off back to a muslim country, rather than coming to a country they despise and trying to change that country because their imaginary friend tells them they should

    Good post, I agree, all the PC bullsh*t nowadays is ridiculous! Bravo!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 798 ✭✭✭bobbyjoe


    These newspapers are churning out stories about how PC loonies or Muslims are taking over the UK. Usually the Sun, the Daily Mail or the Telegraph. Below are some examples from a report found here.
    http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/dispatches/it+shouldnt+happen+to+a+muslim/2314592

    I suspect this story is something similar.


    Get off my bus I need to pray –
    The Sun, 28 March 2008
    This was the story of a Muslim bus driver ordering his passengers off his bus so that he could pray. The Sun story, along with footage of the bus driver praying, was widely circulated around right-wing blogs. Dhimmi Watch, the right-wing blog on the site Jihad Watch that catalogues perceived outrages committed by Muslims, even included the Sun story in their “ever-expanding You Can’t Make This Stuff Up file”. Well, actually you can. For the Sun it was apparently a perfect example of a Muslim putting his faith before the interests of the public and demanding special treatment. The newspaper ran the story after giving London United Bus Company very little time to investigate, obliging them to issue a holding statement saying they would look into the matter. Once they had done so it was clear that the story was rather different. The bus had been delayed, so in order to maintain frequency the bus company had ordered the driver to stop his bus and allow passengers to board the bus behind. Tickets and CCTV evidence show that all the passengers were on that bus within a minute. The driver was under strict instructions not to allow any passengers onto his bus. He was on a ten-minute break so could do what he wanted. 5 28 October 2005 http://www.abc.net.au/ mediawatch/img/2005/ep35/natwest.pdf The so-called witness, a 21 year old plumber, who recorded the bus driver praying, had not in fact been on the bus, and had arrived after the incident to find a small crowd waiting outside a bus. Jumping to a false conclusion, he sold his story to the Sun. The bus driver is currently taking legal action against the Sun for defamation and gross invasion of privacy. The article has been removed from the Sun’s website.

    Nurses Told to Turn Muslims’ Beds to Mecca –
    Daily Express, 4 December 2007
    This story claimed that “NURSES have been told to stop treating patients while they move Muslims’ beds FIVE TIMES a day to face Mecca.” We discovered that in reality nurses would only move terminally-ill Muslim patients’ beds at their family’s request. The concession did not apply to all Muslim patients, and certainly not five times a day. Julia Squire, chief executive of The Mid Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust, which runs Dewsbury and District Hospital, said. “The press reporting on this matter is simply incorrect. Let me be absolutely clear: no employee of The Mid Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust has been or will be ordered to turn hospital beds to face Mecca five times a day.”6 The story originated from an anonymous quote from a nurse at the Dewsbury hospital used in the Daily Express (and also in a similar account which appeared and in the same day’s Daily Star, which is under the same ownership). According to the anonymous source, “If we are having to turn dozens of beds to face Mecca five times a day, plus provide running water for them to wash before and after prayers, it is bound to impact on the essential medical service 6 “Papers criticised over Mecca beds,” Spenborough Today, 7 December 2007 we are supposed to be providing.” 7 Other news papers had run the story correctly, reporting that it would only happen to “very ill” patients and even then not five times a day.8 Fascinatingly, even newspapers which had got the story right, like the Daily Mirror, then inserted the five times a day claim,9 giving it a much more prominent billing. The Daily Telegraph even went to the lengths of borrowing the anonymous quote in the following day’s paper (6 December 2007). 10 The story then gained momentum as angry letters poured in and MPs voiced their outrage, prompting the Daily Star to glory in its investigative journalism, boasting “OUR revelation that nurses are having to turn Muslim patients’ beds to face Mecca has prompted a furious response from Brits. In the biggest response the Daily Star has ever had to a story, thousands of angry readers swamped our offices with texts, phone calls and e-mails”.11 The incident has now since entered folklore, becoming a central piece of evidence for those who make the case that Muslims are invading the British way of life. When the Daily Star finally quoted the NHS denials, they were presented as a U-turn rather than a mistake on the part of the newspapers.12


    HOGWASH: Now the PC brigade bans piggy banks in case they offend Muslims –
    Daily Express, 24 October 2005
    The story claimed that NatWest and Halifax had removed images of piggy banks from their promotional material in an effort to avoid offending Muslim customers, since pork is forbidden in Islam. The paper quoted observers calling such action “barmy” and “bonkers”, thereby stirring up a huge response from the public. One letter to the paper was entitled “Piggy bank climb-down is victory for the terrorists”. NatWest was originally called by journalists from the Lancashire Evening Telegraph who were told in no uncertain terms that the end of one promotion had nothing to do with fear of causing offence. The Express then ran the story without making reasonable checks with the banks.3 The article manages to cite no evidence that piggy banks had been removed for the reason cited in the inflammatory headline, confining itself to expressing outrage from MPs and church leaders. The banks themselves soon cleared up the matter. The Halifax drily noted that it “has not withdrawn any piggy banks from branches” and noted that in fact it had not used piggy banks in its branches for a number of years.4 The NatWest press statement noted that: “There is absolutely no fact in the story. We simply had a UK wide savings marketing campaign, which included pictures of piggy banks, running until the end of September. Piggy banks have been and will continue to be used as a promotional item by NatWest.” 5 That is indeed the case, as NatWest’s piggy banks feature prominently in their promotions to this day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    Circle of filth really - parents pass it to their children, so on and so forth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Hadn't actually read any of those stories bobbyjoe, tend to avoid tabloids due to the amount of utter crap they publish.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    From the Daily Telegraph
    the Daily Telegraph
    Daily Telegraph

    i think i found where the problem is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Sherifu wrote: »
    Spicy food gives me gas :-\

    That's because your bowels are racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    So, does this not mean that we're all racist for refusing to engage in cannibalism? There are some small tribes that still engage in it as far as I'm aware (the particular group I'd heard of still doing it only do so with the village elder, he dies they all eat him so the village doesn't lose all of what made him great).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Beerlao


    bobbyjoe wrote: »
    The Sun,

    Daily Express,
    Daily Express.
    i didn't even bother reading those stories... anything from those right wing rags isn't worth reading


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 whatthe...


    When have we ever heard of a Muslim or Black person accused of Racism towards the white person. When one claims racism its usually against the typical white Caucasian simply because there is nobody else to blame for the ridiculous accusations they make and perhaps they feel this is the only way to get into the limelight.

    If we have to keep 'tippy toeing' around enthnic minorities for fear of being accused of rasicm in our own country there is certainly something wrong with the people allowed in here. I would treat everyone the same but what grinds my gears is when the 'racist card' is shown when certain individuals dont like what they hear. That really annoys me and is very much worn out at this stage. If you are a foreign national in a host country you abide by the said country's laws and fundamentals of the country in question. Im all on for others coming here to better themselves and improving their way of live, but if you have a problem with integration and the national culture, well then.......get the boat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭MJOR


    Bloody stupid in my opinion ya can't help what ya don't like. I like samosas but hate rogan gosh love kung po chicken but hate crispy duck...

    Lock me up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    What's funny here is that everytime one of these poorly constructed articles pops up, the amount of properly racist posts that come reeling out. "I'm not racist but these Muslims take the biscuit! Send 'em all home!"
    It's when it becomes this us vs them attitude that it very much is a case of generalisation and prejudice. There are bigots who are Muslim and there are bigots posting on this bloody thread.

    Good post by BobbyJoe, it really goes to show that it doesn't take much to get people ready to riot. Incitement on both ends.

    PC gone mad is a more complicated issue.. If we allow everyone to say what their infinitely stupid heads tell them to say then things can escalate quickly, whether it be the retarded statement of 'Muslims smell' or 'Kill these Western pigs' but free speech is pretty much something that I always need to side with. Some of the posts here however, are pig f*cking ignorant and this is from an atheist who laughs at Maddy McCann jokes.

    It's not a case of Christians vs Muslims, both of these groups can suck a dick in my opinion, it's a case of neither of you are a majority, accept that, shut the f*ck up and stop causing trouble.


    The Scientologists can be deported though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    And yet people wonder why I prefer to be a misanthropist, no fear of being accused of racism, speciesism maybe, but not racism.
    The Marklars had it right, same word for every name and noun, hard to have a bias when it's impossible to refer to youself/any group you're in as distinct from any other.
    Those damned marklars and their marklars about unfair marklar.
    See, sounds far more confusing than incendary.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I don't like chinese food. I bet Bruce Lee is turning in his grave!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    The person who hates foreigners in a lot of cases will also hate his next door neighbour .Some people are born haters .The most obious one to spring to mind would be Hitler or more recently Osama bin ladin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    I don't like Irish Coffee or The Full Irish Breakfast.
    Does that make me racist against myself, emo by proxy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,873 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    If I gave HB Jr I (5 yo) bacon & cabbage he'd say "Yuk!"

    If I gave him a curry, he'd say "Where the hell are the naans, popadums & 'Geeta's Lime & Chilli Chutney'?"


    Is it coz I iz black?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    its Eid actually and its nothing like christmas at all. 0 Comparison

    - Not a muslim just in case anyones wondering :D

    Ahh Its all the same! :D I get lots of lovely food whenever its on, something got to do with the moon cycles i think? family and friends all get together and share Loads of food, A bit like Christmas without the hero in the big red suit.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,505 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Terry wrote: »
    Banned forever.



    :pac:


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