A straight punch with a step forward?

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fitz0 wrote: »

From my understanding of kata they are not actually block, punch, block, punch. There are hidden techniques within them. I was taught a breakdown of the second shotokan kata (heion shodan) which involved striking the opponents arm, getting them in a hammerlock, fist to the back of the head and a push, all in the first 5 moves. Theres a LOT more to kata than repetitive motions in unrealistc situations.

Ah yeh, I know that bunkai / pattern application idea - I've actually bought a couple of books on it and I've been shown a few of the "hidden techniques". It's an interesting side if you already know the patterns and want to see / take something else out of them or see them in a new light. But I've come to the conclusion that if I want to learn how to say strike an arm and throw someone or whatever it might be (it's early and I can't think of an elaborate example ) then it's better just to train doing that with a partner and get the feel for it and be able to pull it off rather than trying to fit it into a movement you're performing on your own that's similar / semi-similar in a pattern. I.e., for actual training, why not go to a judo class and learn to throw, for example, rather than trying to learn a throw from a low block walking stance in the 5th move of some pattern?! Having said all that, it still can be nice to see patterns in a different light too if you're practising them anyway as part of the syllabus. Paul O'Leary who posts here the odd time could go into more depth on it all. But he'll have Tim Murphy arguing with him pretty quick

Edit - a lot of times though they ARE trained as "repetitive motions in unrealistic situations" !...

I think the punch used in this thread is taken from the art of Joesondo.

cowzerp wrote: »

I think the punch used in this thread is taken from the art of Joesondo.

Cowzerp, it is evident that you do not truly understand the ways of the mighty JOESONDO. we of the JOESONDO order do not bother ourselves with foolish attacks such as the lunge punch. Rather, we lull our adversaries into a false sense of security, by allowing them to strike us multiple times in the groinal area, then, when their striking arm is weak we unleash hell upon them*
(Unless the ref stops it first, of course. thats why you should only use JOESONDO for the streets; no ref stopages)













*note: i do not practice the art of JOESONDO, nor do I advocate taking repeated shots to your groin

fitz0 wrote: »

Emyvale, Co Monaghan. Its very different from Shotokan. The only similar thing is the kata. We do a 3/4 punch rather than a horizontal, we do a lot of pressure point strikes and such. There is a bit of Kempo and Kickboxing thrown into the training to make it more applicable in a realworld scenario but it is mainly kyusho.

www.ucaai.com

what ever happened to the good old traditional full punch ayyyy :D:D

i have an idea.............COW-ZER-DO, the art of ripping your opponents head off and sh!tting down his neck

jo-son-do is a martial art, thats all.

This is from a blog (don't know who the author is). It gives another perspective on the origin of this type of punch which is pretty interesting - don't worry its not a long read...

http://budo-no-kokoro.blogspot.com/2007/06/self-defence-and-martial-arts-of-japan.html