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Why do Men hate Sex & The City?
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I'll have you know I was sober when I posted those!
All gone, back OT.
Why do I hate SATC? Well I've had very limited exposure to it, but what little I've had has led me to the following conclusions:
1. It's vacuous in the extreme. I have no problem with that per se, I have watched many brain-killing programmes myself over the years, but they don't pretend to be something more than they are. SATC, imo, does.
2. These are supposedly strong women and yet all they want to do is find the love of a good man. Not exactly standing up for the sisters there, are they?
3. It's not as funny or clever as it thinks it is. The script and storylines are pretty poor, imo, and make me wonder how it's reached 6 seasons.
4. Sarah Jessica Parker. You can call me shallow if you like, but dear god she's fugly, and no amount of convincing, bribery or alcohol will make me think otherwise. This makes the show completely unrealistic, imo, as there can't be that many desperate men in New York, can there? It also means that I can't stand looking at her and need to switch off as quickly as possible.
5. The shoes. Dear god the shoes. WTF is it with women and shoes?0 -
4. Sarah Jessica Parker. You can call me shallow if you like, but dear god she's fugly, and no amount of convincing, bribery or alcohol will make me think otherwise. This makes the show completely unrealistic, imo, as there can't be that many desperate men in New York, can there? It also means that I can't stand looking at her and need to switch off as quickly as possible.
I dont understand this!How can men possibly think this is ugly!!
God men have impossible standards!!0 -
I dont understand this!How can men possibly think this is ugly!!
God men have impossible standards!!
Not impossible, but she's scrawny and has a bit of a horse face. Neither particularly attractive to me.
EDIT: BTW, it's not just me0 -
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Zaph. . . I think you're very right about the fugly Sarah one. But although this site is closed down, you all might still get a laugh
http://www.sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahorse.com/0 -
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I'm tempted to say horses for courses. Oh look I did.:DNot impossible, but she's scrawny and has a bit of a horse face. Neither particularly attractive to me.
I still would. I dunno I find her strangely attractive. Not "oh jebus I see a vision before me", but attractive. As I said before, good hair, a smile that works her whole face and very toned in the oul bod so.... I saw an interview with her a while back and she came across as pretty sound which would add to it. I've also seen her in Dublin a while back havin a ciggy outside a city centre pub and at fairly close range, she is tiny(not that scrawny though) but attractive. The red head now would do nothing for me at all. Meh maybe I'm weird. Nathin wrong with that though. Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.
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Xavi6 said "Probably written by some oul one who can't cope with the menopause and wants to be 21 again"....... Sex and the City, the series and the film, was written by Michael Patrick King....who you will find is a man! So lads,why don't ye come back here when ye have an informed opinion on the topic, instead of just an ignorant one 0
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HoneyButterfly wrote: »Xavi6 said "Probably written by some oul one who can't cope with the menopause and wants to be 21 again"....... Sex and the City, the series and the film, was written by Michael Patrick King....who you will find is a man! So lads,why don't ye come back here when ye have an informed opinion on the topic, instead of just an ignorant one
Ah but if I was too informed then it would mean I was actually interested in it
In this case, ignorance is most certainly bliss.0 -
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Zaph. . . I think you're very right about the fugly Sarah one. But although this site is closed down, you all might still get a laugh
http://www.sarahjessicaparkerlookslikeahorse.com/
Ok, the first picture set I can see the resemblance, but the other 2 sets seem to be more about the pose of her face and the horses' than actual resemblence.
Because the average episode seems to be them meeting up in a cafe and shopping and talking about men and fashion, i.e. the typical girlie day (as has been the typical girlie day long before this series. As such please clarify how it is empowering to women as it tends to be marketed as? It's about as empowering as the Spice Girls were in that it's core feature is an entirely female group, that's it, they still seem to have their on screen lives/their songs revolve around men far too often. If that is the essence of female empowerment in the media, i.e. being man mad, then it is a rather depressing and misguided movement is it not?HoneyButterfly wrote: »I think men don't like it, simply because they cannot relate to it.
Still not about empowerment, just day to day life, just like practically every other soap out there.HoneyButterfly wrote: »It was such a hit with women because at some stage in the series something happened where you thought "Oh my God thats exactly how Tom/Dick/Harry treated me" ...we relate to the characters because each of them is so different that they represent part of our own personality.
So in short Wibbs has the right of it calling it a fluff piece, it's nothing but escapist soap opera, with the drama tuned down a notch to only romantic drama (no one gets killed, dies or any of the significant drama that exists in real life).HoneyButterfly wrote: »I think it is a very smart well thought out show and has very realistic aspects to it. But theres also the fact that these are 4 fabulous sucessfull women living in New York (looking for love, yes, but honestly, who isn't?!..actually I'll get back to that in a minute), and who wouldn't love to be able to afford their lifestyle?!? I dream of renting an adorable apartment in Manhattan, being able to afford gorgeous designer clothes while having my ideal career...who wouldn't love that? So its great to be able to transport ourselves into their world for a short while.
The problem lies in the fact of their devotion to finding love, they are marketed as independent women yet they are clearly unhappy to be just that, rather than getting on with their lives and following love if it comes along they focus their energies on finding love. "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle", in SATC they seem to forget the latter half and just read it as "a woman needs a man".HoneyButterfly wrote: »Now, on the subject of them just constantly chasing after love while declaring themselves independant women (not sure who said that a bit back there)....LOVE IS THE THING YOU KNOW?! Seriously....who doesn't want to fall in love? That does not mean losing your independence. If no one ever fell in love...what would the world be like..I'm serious, without love, there's no families. Families are made from love! I sound like a sap, but anyway. And also, SATC is ultimately about friendship, growing up, getting wiser and being realistic. The concept of the film and series is that girls grow up with a fairytale idea of love and marriage and everything that goes with it, there are many references to the Cinderella concept throughtout the film, but it is ultimately about having a realistic take on life, staying true to yourself and love. Carrie didn't get her fairytale ending...whereas in a regular Chick Flick she, of course, would!
So to surmise it is nothing more than a soap opera, do men tend to like any soap operas? Not really, they are made more for women as women feel more of a need to gossip than men and so these programmes supplement their day to day lives with extra interesting things to gossip over. That said, do not think that men do not like drama, just not the gossipy kind, look at the popularity of World's Deadliest Catch among men, for the most part that is a drama of a kind (will they catch enough or won't they, will anyone be injured, will a boat sink, etc...), just not the sort you'll stand around the coffee machine talking about the next day. It could also be argued that this is escapist viewing for men since the crew & what they do could be seen as an embodiement of "manliness", so the primative hunter gatherer existance, not having to be a gentleman, no worry about relationships, etc... would be the escapism in it. But at least it's not marketed as being progressive or empowering when it's not.0 -
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Only because he agrees with you.HoneyButterfly wrote: »...FINALLY an opened minded man.
That I agree with in part, but since one man's meat is another's poison....How can you call Sarah Jessica ugly anyway, and I depise the word fugly. Since when does that even come into it anyway??
Yea well that goes for men and women. There are few enough mainstream popcorn movies aimed at women where the blokes are hit with the ugly(or fugly) stick so it's not really an argument agin it.Are these men saying that they only watch a film to look at gorgeous women?!
Which one could say about any media one doesn't like tbh.I think men don't like it, simply because they cannot relate to it.
That's certainly it's obvious brief as a puff piece anyway. Same with the spice girls, everyone would like at least one of them. Oldest trick in the book. Hell, even as far back as the beatles people would like one of them and that was worked for all it was worth. It's not climing to be high art, though the way some of it's supporters go on you would think Sammy Beckett had a hand in the script.It was such a hit with women because at some stage in the series something happened where you thought "Oh my God thats exactly how Tom/Dick/Harry treated me" ...we relate to the characters because each of them is so different that they represent part of our own personality.
Which is fair enough.Men think its just about sex and shoes and its so such more than that! ....Yes, the fashion plays a massive part in the Movie, but that makes it all the more attractive to me...I LOVE it! And newsflash...us girlies love shoes!!! We do not expect men to understand that. We don't even understand it!
I agree, but for probably more cynical reasons than you maybe.I think it is a very smart well thought out show
Maybe. I think it's fine. It is what it is. It doesn't claim to be anything more than that. Though lately it seems to have a feeling of self importance that it hardly warrants.Guys just cannot relate to it in the same why women do
I will say this, that IMHO, it's actually in one way a good advert for feminism, but not in an obvious way. It says that women can be what they want to be, no matter how frivolous that may appear to men or even other women. You can be the 50's housewife, the professional go getter, the sexual experimenter, the daft scatty one, or something else entirely, while wearing manolo blahniks while you're at it(or not). That can only be good. It's actualy a better spread of archetypes than men have at their disposal. The portrayal of men and their types in the media and in that show are quite narrow. "Nice" guy, go getter, sap, seems to be the range.Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.
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