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Garda Checkpoint query

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  • #32
    opti76
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭opti76


    angelfire9 wrote: »
    Did you search it cos he had the stuff ready & you found it strange or cos he tweaked your Garda "antenna" (bad choice of words i know but you know what i mean!) :cool:


    I assuming though that you don't get agressive unless you have to?
    This Garda last night was giving out major agressive vibes which i don't think is neccessary, even if i was a drug courier or gun runner surely a Garda doesn't have to show agression unless threatened?

    It seems to me she was trying to throw her weight around a bit and seemed taken aback that i didn't react but did exactly what i was told! :confused:

    I've often been stopped a check points up the country where i wouldn't be known and had a chat with the lads commenting on the weather or whatever, i've never before recieved a negative response to my "chirpy" attitude

    Should i just keep my mouth shut anymore?

    il be honest with ya when i first started ie proby i would have but you slowly get tuned into people .. meet that garda again in a year and shel b totally different . most people think your training stops in templemore when in fact your training begins ony when you leave templemore. a lot of people assume aggression equals control of a situation. withing 2 seconds of comong across an incident a experianced garda will be able to ascertain what way to deal with a situation ie some situations call for an agry thinck mule others call for diplomacy .. this banner will learn that


  • #33
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    angelfire9 wrote: »
    So if an ordinary joe soap asks you for the time you would find that suspicious too?
    You have to suspect to detect. Police wont catch criminals by simple waiting for them to own up to crime. You know Gardai, you should know this.
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    Maybe i'm being naive but i would have thought that if you came upon a drunk during a routine checkpoint that firstly you'd have a good idea from talking to them that they were drunk without asking them to get out of the car? And if she thought i was drunk why wasn't i breathalysed?
    You dont need to be breathalysed for starters and secondly, you speak with people to f0rm the opinion they are drunk. People dont roll down the window and say "Hey Guard, Im hammered, woo hoo!"
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    For the record i don't drink so i obviously wasn't drunk!
    Fine but how does a Garda at a checkpoint know that?
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    Regarding the insurance how do you form an opinion that the driver of the car is not the person insured on the car?
    You check.
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    Saying she thought the car was stolen is not really valid i was driving my own car!
    I want you to read that again and think about it, then ask yourself how they knew the car was yours just by looking at the tax and insurance details. You think people that steal cars put their own tax and insurance in the window?
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    And if they were on the lookout for someone surely they'd have a description?
    Yes, Blond in her thirties and well dressed. ;)
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    I'm in my thirties, i'm an accountant, i was dressed in a conservative suit, not the average get up of a criminal i would have thought???
    Well no, criminals only ever wear black and white stripped t-shirts with a small black mask around their eyes and carry special 'criminal registration' ID inside the bag marked 'swag'. Oh and the 'criminal registration' ID is completely different in appearance to the 'accountant' registration that you obviously had displayed on your car, otherwise how would they know this?
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    I'm not trying to argue with you here, obviously I have never done a checkpoint so i don't know but if she had asked me to get out of the car for a legitimate reason why all the apologies????
    True but it also appears that you dont really think about or understand your husbands work nor does it appear you speak to him about it. You think he hasnt stopped innocent people? Shouted or used violence to arrest people? As for apologising, well thats called manners. Seems this Garda cant win with you, first she is rude and now apologising is not acceptable either.
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    I didn't take offence, as i think i probably stated before she was just doing her job, and in fairness if i don't have respect for the job who does? I just have a problem with her reason behind it!
    I DID ASK my dad and my husband about it, the father said she was probably throwing her weight around because i didn't seem to be intimidated by Gardai
    The husband laughed and told me to forget about it?
    yes your seem respectful but also very niave and idealistic concerning the subject at hand. Kind of like my wife, she doesnt like to think that I have ever used my baton or restrained people but of course I have.
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    They were both youngish, definitely both younger than me
    With respect, your not that particularily young. A Garda could have ten years servivce by their thirties.
    angelfire9 wrote: »
    And i don't know how she could have "seen something" as i wasn't doing anything!!!!
    True but again, you seem to believe that criminals advertise.



    When all is said and done we dont know her reasons, Im giving you ideas or possibilities which your partner should be able to do. You need to open your eyes more and realise that criminals mix, mingle, hide and look just like you and me.


  • #34
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,876 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    angelfire9, you are coming across as slightly aggressive to random peopl eon the internet. Maybe you were the same at the checkpoint?
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    D, Criminals with something to hide are often overly friendly to avoid suspicion. the logic being they wouldnt stop and chat if they were carrying something or doing something. Its not uncommon to be stopped by a criminal ans asked the time but yet when they are clean they are rude and aggresive towards us because they know we cant arrest them for anything.
    Agreed. Potentially (a) overly friendly (b) familiarity or lack of deference (c) "Haven't I seen Garda X stop that car in town before?"
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    Sorry but dont believe that for a minute, how can she show cleavage wearing a tie?
    Open tie and buttons enough! Now there was one time with one of the managers at work .... :D
    Or under a stab vest?
    Was it pre-stab vest?


  • #35
    TheNog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Angelfire,

    I agree with Karlito on this. Everyone I meet at a checkpoint has to be a suspect on any range of offences that I could come across. At a checkpoint you are looking at the vehicle, discs, driver and passenger behaviour, contents of the vehicle and even smells. All of this done while you are still watching oncoming traffic for safety purposes and those who try to turn away from checkpoints or are acting suspiciously coming to a checkpoint.

    I suppose it boils down to how the garda actually tries to satisfy his/her suspicions. Some member do it badly to the detriment of public opinion, others do it and the driver doesn't even notice it.

    We use a certain amount of skills at checkpoint and these skills are not taught in Templemore but can only be done through a certain amount of guidance from older members and a little bit of thought.


  • #36
    angelfire9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭angelfire9


    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    You have to suspect to detect. Police wont catch criminals by simple waiting for them to own up to crime. You know Gardai, you should know this.
    You dont need to be breathalysed for starters and secondly, you speak with people to f0rm the opinion they are drunk. People dont roll down the window and say "Hey Guard, Im hammered, woo hoo!"
    :D Ok, point taken
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    Yes, Blond in her thirties and well dressed. ;)
    Brunette actually but thanks :p
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    True but it also appears that you dont really think about or understand your husbands work nor does it appear you speak to him about it. You think he hasnt stopped innocent people? Shouted or used violence to arrest people? As for apologising, well thats called manners. Seems this Garda cant win with you, first she is rude and now apologising is not acceptable either.
    yes your seem respectful but also very niave and idealistic concerning the subject at hand. Kind of like my wife, she doesnt like to think that I have ever used my baton or restrained people but of course I have.
    All true, :cool: obviously i do know that my OH has had to use his asp and/or restrain people from time to time
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

    With respect, your not that particularily young. A Garda could have ten years servivce by their thirties.
    Hey, i'm not that old! :(
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    When all is said and done we dont know her reasons, Im giving you ideas or possibilities which your partner should be able to do. You need to open your eyes more and realise that criminals mix, mingle, hide and look just like you and me.
    Fair point, thank you!


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  • #37
    sweetbubbly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 48 ✭sweetbubbly


    I recently came to a checkpoint about 2 miles away from my job it was around midnight and I was just finishing up work for the night. So I roll up in my truck, female garda stops me asks me "Do you have a licence to drive this vehicle?" (I drive for a very large supermarket chain so my guess would be obviously I have licence to drive they aren't letting me drive it for the craic!) So produce licence to her, She's happy with that and waves me on. I have to return passed said checkpoint on my way home. She stops me again, hasnt twigged that I'm the same person, asks "can I see your licence?" Show her my licence and I'm on the way again.
    I just wonder would other members of the Gardai ask me the same question as this is not the first time I've been asked in that way in my truck, but I've never been asked like that in my car? I'm also wondering if I was a big burly man would you ask in the same way? Dont think I'm being pedantic, I'm just curious as to others opinions.


  • #38
    eroo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    I'd imagine any Garda would ask for a license regarding a truck?After all,they can be used to transport many varieties of .. eh .. 'goods'.


  • #39
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    sweetbubbly wrote: »
    I recently came to a checkpoint about 2 miles away from my job it was around midnight and I was just finishing up work for the night. So I roll up in my truck, female garda stops me asks me "Do you have a licence to drive this vehicle?" (I drive for a very large supermarket chain so my guess would be obviously I have licence to drive they aren't letting me drive it for the craic!) So produce licence to her, She's happy with that and waves me on. I have to return passed said checkpoint on my way home. She stops me again, hasnt twigged that I'm the same person, asks "can I see your licence?" Show her my licence and I'm on the way again.
    I just wonder would other members of the Gardai ask me the same question as this is not the first time I've been asked in that way in my truck, but I've never been asked like that in my car? I'm also wondering if I was a big burly man would you ask in the same way? Dont think I'm being pedantic, I'm just curious as to others opinions.

    Yes I would ask for a license in general. You catch people driving cars without licenses so imagine how many try to get away with it for a truck???

    Had to laugh about the return journey, Im guilty of that on more than one occasion :D


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 118 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    read the first page of this and had to laugh. just about da attitude, my dads a guard and if i ever ring him at work, they answer the fone n go watever and wen i say im looking for whoever, they say in an angry tone, who are you and why, id say its his son and suddenly the mood changes completely and its ohhh hello how are you? just one minute there thanks very much. its comedy alright!


  • #41
    eddiehobbs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭eddiehobbs


    markontap wrote: »
    Not to go off on a tangent but I've an experience from the other end of the scale. Was driving home with two mates one night at about 2AM and we passed through a checkpoint. A black glanza with three 19/20 YOs so could have warranted closer scrutiny than your usual Joe Soap. There were three cars already pulled over with two officers still on the road, one on each lane of the dual carriageway. The car we were in had its tax out by 2 months and NCT out by 6 but the guard just flashed his light on it and let us go on.. didn't ask for licence or nothing.



    Dont complain!! A friend of mine was pulled over last week and his nct was out. Got left at the side of the road and got his car towed away. There was nothing else wrong with the car, and it wasnt a banger or anything like that.

    OP I wouldnt read too much into the behaviour of the guard. Prob just acting on a hunch


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  • #42
    CLADA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭CLADA


    Deleted User wrote: »
    read the first page of this and had to laugh. just about da attitude, my dads a guard and if i ever ring him at work, they answer the fone n go watever and wen i say im looking for whoever, they say in an angry tone, who are you and why, id say its his son and suddenly the mood changes completely and its ohhh hello how are you? just one minute there thanks very much. its comedy alright!

    I'm not surprised they sound angry textspeak pisses me off as well.:mad:


  • #43
    sweetbubbly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 48 ✭sweetbubbly


    eroo wrote: »
    I'd imagine any Garda would ask for a license regarding a truck?After all,they can be used to transport many varieties of .. eh .. 'goods'.
    Its not them asking for my licence, its how she asked for it "Do I have a licence to drive the vehicle?" It came across as so condescending. I seem to always get stopped at checkpoints where as the lads never do. Its become a standing joke as to how many times in a week can I get pulled. I have no points on my licence and I have never had a ticket for anything in the truck. But as soon as they see a woman behind the wheel of a truck they almost always pull me in. Had 1 garda car sit beside me on the motorway from Bray down as far as Tallaght, and the garda in the passenger seat kept staring at me. Bizarre...


  • #44
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    :p
    sweetbubbly wrote: »
    Its not them asking for my licence, its how she asked for it "Do I have a licence to drive the vehicle?" It came across as so condescending. I seem to always get stopped at checkpoints where as the lads never do. Its become a standing joke as to how many times in a week can I get pulled. I have no points on my licence and I have never had a ticket for anything in the truck. But as soon as they see a woman behind the wheel of a truck they almost always pull me in. Had 1 garda car sit beside me on the motorway from Bray down as far as Tallaght, and the garda in the passenger seat kept staring at me. Bizarre...

    I think your reading too much into it. Its just another way of asking for it. At the end of the day we could say "Good evening,Can I see your license please sir/madam/miss?" or we can actually be normal and simple say "Hows it going? Have you got your license there please?" or whatever they would normally say depending on where they are from.


    I bet your a hell of a lot better on the eye than the lads are:p


  • #45
    TheNog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    Had to laugh about the return journey, Im guilty of that on more than one occasion :D

    Or how about speaking to the passenger in a left hand drive car. I always seem to get caught out on that. Nearly arrested the passenger one night 'cos I smelled drink. Got an awful ribbing in the station.:D

    At least the Polish lads in the car got a good laugh out of it.


  • #46
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    Never did that but I have stopped cars for driving up a oneway street only to have them point out the NEW roadsign that made it twoway! :p

    Ah sure theres not a police officer alive that doesnt have at least one blooper a roster.


  • #47
    sweetbubbly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 48 ✭sweetbubbly


    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    :p

    I think your reading too much into it. Its just another way of asking for it. At the end of the day we could say "Good evening,Can I see your license please sir/madam/miss?" or we can actually be normal and simple say "Hows it going? Have you got your license there please?" or whatever they would normally say depending on where they are from.

    Yes perhaps I am. Got pulled one day for overtaking a micra doing 25mph on the M7 heading for Cork one day, the garda had to come down on the passenger side of the truck so as not to get run over by the speeding Micra I had just overtook, so I climbed over to the passenger side to open the door for him, It was hilarious to see him look past me looking for the driver.... "Are you driving this???" he says to me aghast. The in my head response was "No the fairy in the bunk is..." But my own response was "Yes Garda is there a problem" with my sweetest smile... Didnt get a ticket... tee hee :D
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    :p
    I bet your a hell of a lot better on the eye than the lads are:p

    Awwww charmer!! Only one thing to say on that and that is I flippin hope so otherwise I'm doing something wrong..... LOL
    TheNog wrote: »
    Or how about speaking to the passenger in a left hand drive car. I always seem to get caught out on that. Nearly arrested the passenger one night 'cos I smelled drink. Got an awful ribbing in the station.:D

    At least the Polish lads in the car got a good laugh out of it.
    LOL try looking for the steering wheel next time!! :D


  • #48
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »


    Ah sure theres not a police officer alive that doesnt have at least one blooper a roster.

    Well since that you guys brough it up anyone guilty of asking for insurance disks on motorbikes?


  • #49
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    Odysseus wrote: »
    Well since that you guys brough it up anyone guilty of asking for insurance disks on motorbikes?


    Probable have in my early days. Dont see why they cant be carried anyway to be honest.


  • #50
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    Probable have in my early days. Dont see why they cant be carried anyway to be honest.


    I kind of agree with you, but you must remember disks are not as secure on a bike, must easier to remove. Also I find unless you spend about e30 on a really good holder disks get wrecked in the bad weather. So thats like asking cars owers to pay e60 to display tax an insurance. Even with the secure ones the whole thing can just be ripped out just of maliciousness.


  • #51
    Fyr.Fytr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Whats wrong with putting it in your wallet?


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  • #52
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Fyr.Fytr wrote: »
    Whats wrong with putting it in your wallet?


    To introduce you to the world of biking, firstly you don't get a disk just your policy. So you would be carrying your policy all the time. If you don't ride a bike you don't think of silly things like this.

    I do a lot of milage all year round I have almost clocked my bike in less than 4 years. I buy good quality kit but I have never found anything that is totally waterproof when you are doing long distance at speed [legally]and you have no glove box on a bike.

    So even with the licence if you change jackets you have to rememder to switch it from one to the other. You will all be changing if you ride a bike. I'm a psychotheraist in an Addicition Unit so I can't do that in bike kit, but if the weather is nice and I'm slipping down the shops on a break I'm might not want to change to full kit.

    Plus I carry enough as it is, paracord in case I need to tie some thing down, leartherman for cutting said paracord, changing bulbs ect, torch. You could say carry them in my back pack but I have three different sizes depending on how long I'm going to be in Dublin for, what I need to bring back, carry from one centre to another, i.e. client files. That is without various bags for other stuff, Civil Defense kit, MA kit, not boot just to throw them into. A long answer but I think that covers it;)


  • #53
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,480 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    ^ Sorry, Odysseus, but an insurance cert is just a piece of paper that can be folded and put in your wallet, with your plastic cards etc. Or keep it with your licence, which you have to carry anyway. Can't see the big deal tbh.

    Even if you are not required to carry the insurance cert, why not do it anyway? I'm sure you'd get some brownie points from the Garda, and it would save you the hassle of having to produce it in a Garda station, which might be required of you otherwise.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #54
    Odysseus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Hi Esel, the waterproof issue on a trip to Dublin on a bad day my money will be soaking wet, your policy won't last long believe me. Compared to others it not too long but 600-1000k a week in bad weather you original would be wrecked within a fortnight.

    Actually I find I'm generally waved through at check points, bike is kept clean and wearing proper kit has something to do with it I think. I have never been asked to produce, so even when a radio check has been done it will state that my tax goes in Oct and my insurance in Jan, so my insurance is not on computer until I tax it in Oct. Still never been asked to produce, though now that I say that it will probably happen next time. Hope I'm not going to far off topic.


  • #55
    Eru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    Regardless of the reality now with bikes and insurance its surely not something that couldnt be easily corrected to everyones satisfaction.

    Personally, and I speak personally, I think the new UK licenses which will carry a hell of a lot of information digitally is a good idea. I would love to have 1 card that has pps, license, tax, insurance and whatever else would be fitted. Marvellous! :D


  • #56
    Fyr.Fytr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Fyr.Fytr


    Odysseus wrote: »
    To introduce you to the world of biking, firstly you don't get a disk just your policy. So you would be carrying your policy all the time. If you don't ride a bike you don't think of silly things like this.

    I do a lot of milage all year round I have almost clocked my bike in less than 4 years. I buy good quality kit but I have never found anything that is totally waterproof when you are doing long distance at speed [legally]and you have no glove box on a bike.

    So even with the licence if you change jackets you have to rememder to switch it from one to the other. You will all be changing if you ride a bike. I'm a psychotheraist in an Addicition Unit so I can't do that in bike kit, but if the weather is nice and I'm slipping down the shops on a break I'm might not want to change to full kit.

    Plus I carry enough as it is, paracord in case I need to tie some thing down, leartherman for cutting said paracord, changing bulbs ect, torch. You could say carry them in my back pack but I have three different sizes depending on how long I'm going to be in Dublin for, what I need to bring back, carry from one centre to another, i.e. client files. That is without various bags for other stuff, Civil Defense kit, MA kit, not boot just to throw them into. A long answer but I think that covers it;)

    Thats fair enough.

    Ahh CD that says its all :P

    But remember always carry your donor card you mad gits.
    Karlitosway1978 wrote: »
    Regardless of the reality now with bikes and insurance its surely not something that couldnt be easily corrected to everyones satisfaction.

    Personally, and I speak personally, I think the new UK licenses which will carry a hell of a lot of information digitally is a good idea. I would love to have 1 card that has pps, license, tax, insurance and whatever else would be fitted. Marvellous! :D

    ID cars all the way, be much handier. Set it up so the relevent 3rd party can only get the info thats relevent to them.

    Eg guards can scan it get your name, address, dob, licence details etc. A&E get name address dob signifcant medical history etc

    Oh no wait thats common sense


  • #57
    slavetothegrind
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind


    Now that i finally fixed the damn jeep and got doe'd and back taxed i can post in safety!!!

    I have been through a few c/points in recent months and without tax.
    I was approached each time in a professional manner and questioned as to the absence of the tax.
    I expained with available doe appointments etc. and was shown leniancy twice.
    Third time the vehicle was removed from me ( proper order tax was now 4 months out!)
    Again Garda involved very polite and helpful, nearly caused him a heart attack when i said i better bring my gun with me then! ( licensed shot gun!):D:D

    Actually i remember i walked dowm the road and around the corner awaiting my good lady for a lift, standing there with gun in sleeve a squad car goes by, both occupants perform an owl like manouvre of the head and come screeching back to me!
    I protested my innocence immediately and they too were grand.

    I guess what i am saying is , like in all aspects of life, you will generally see a reflection of your own attitude in the people you address.
    I am not a Garda nor do i have friends or family therin.

    One more topical thing and i'll bugger off, that rentokill cyanide thing was discovered in Ballymount on the morning i collected aforementioned impounded jeep. A Garda called around to our offices later in the week about some safety aspect of moving the stuff the following weekend.
    So i says I hope they kit your lot out properly if you are going to be near that!
    " Sure didn't they issue us with Stab vests!" he says deadpan:D:D:D:D


  • #58
    Richie15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭Richie15


    topper75 wrote: »
    Still think he was wrong to ask for this letter even though asked him to confirm several times that it is necessary to carry it. Everyone I told story to said he was wrong that all you need to produce is licence and have clean paperwork on windscreen.
    If he meant the certificate (the page with your disk perforated in the corner) you don't have to carry it (in fact, it's not recommended) but he can ask you to produce it in a Garda station within 10 days.

    But if he meant the letter that says "please find enclosed your certificate..." then I hope he was just being an eejit, 'cos I've shredded mine. :mad:


  • #59
    scottyccfc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭scottyccfc


    First post here and I was going to leave it until later but my god this thread makes me mad, the attitude of Guards (Im assuming they are) on this forum stinks, even on a forum you are talking down to people. Chill out, relax and actually take on board what the members of thepublic are saying.

    Over and out :D


  • #60
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Richie15 wrote: »
    If he meant the certificate (the page with your disk perforated in the corner) you don't have to carry it (in fact, it's not recommended) but he can ask you to produce it in a Garda station within 10 days.

    But if he meant the letter that says "please find enclosed your certificate..." then I hope he was just being an eejit, 'cos I've shredded mine. :mad:

    Yes - it was clear he meant the certificate. I have it at home as it happens but he made no request to bring it to a station. He insisted that I produce it there and then and was adamant (I asked twice!) that I was obliged to have it with me in the vehicle. I always carry my licence and produced it. Disks were up to date. Still adamant he was wrong. He was a human being having an off day maybe. Warm evening! :pac: No other explanation.

    BTW - sorry for late response on this - my mail wasn't updated with thread responses for some reason.

    At the end of the day, 99% of cops are competent professionals. My original query was to see if there was something I didn't know. Satisfied now I was right.


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  • #61
    Shield
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,893 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Your first post was in here to say that? Believe it or not, there's an Angry Bastard forum where you can rant and rave all day long about the Gardaí if you want to.

    Welcome to boards. Hope we can be friends.
    scottyccfc wrote: »
    First post here and I was going to leave it until later but my god this thread makes me mad, the attitude of Guards (Im assuming they are) on this forum stinks, even on a forum you are talking down to people. Chill out, relax and actually take on board what the members of thepublic are saying.

    Over and out :D


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