UFC 85 "Bedlam" Discussion Thread

Nothingcompares · 05-06-2008 05:25PM

Fozzy wrote: »

I haven't heard of anything. I think the problem is that Ireland are playing New Zealand in rugby that evening and there'll also be two Euro 2008 games late in the day as well. So that's probably what the sports bars will be showing, not a UFC event which is probably the least appealing UFC show this year

EDIT: Actually, I think the rugby game is in the evening in New Zealand, which makes it the morning here

Rugby match is on live 8am/8.30am irish time, perhaps it's being replayed later in the day.

Dunk - there's a ticket going there, buy that and get a flight sure.

dunkamania · 07-06-2008 04:27PM

Why didnt I think of that

goo · 07-06-2008 05:10PM

Setanta is cheap and from this event I think they've got all of the American UFC events as well, is that right?

Vince135792003 · 07-06-2008 05:17PM

goo wrote: »

Setanta is cheap and from this event I think they've got all of the American UFC events as well, is that right?

Yep.

Fozzy · 07-06-2008 06:10PM

I think Bravo still have the Ultimate Fighter Finale in a couple of weeks. I'd assume so anyway, bit of a bitch if they show the full series and don't show who wins!

shantor · 08-06-2008 10:52AM

Fozzy wrote: »

I think Bravo still have the Ultimate Fighter Finale in a couple of weeks. I'd assume so anyway, bit of a bitch if they show the full series and don't show who wins!

i hope that TJ lad gets his head mashed by the jock boy in final

shantor · 08-06-2008 12:16PM

shantor wrote: »

i hope that TJ lad gets his head mashed by the jock boy in final

actually I hope Amir wins

goo · 08-06-2008 03:05PM

shantor wrote: »

i Hope That Tj Lad Gets His Head Mashed By The Jock Boy In Final

Cb?

johnny_adidas · 08-06-2008 07:53PM

back since earlier today. had a blast, great weekend. atmosphere for bisbing was amazing. too hung over to type any more

dunkamania · 08-06-2008 08:36PM

Looks like it was a great show of fights, despite the abscence of big name fighters. Still
trying to get the Marquardt and Cairneiro fights.

el rabitos · 08-06-2008 08:56PM

just back from it there now myself, was an awesome show to see live.

the place went pretty mental for bisping, he just destroyed day, poor chap didnt even get started tbh.

great to see chuck out there with wiman, poor fella got swamped when we were leaving, he headed out the same way as the crowd to go sign autograpghs somewhere in the arena and was just hounded by cameras.

all in all was a great experience. half of its a bit of a blur at the moment though, knackered.

goo · 08-06-2008 09:27PM

Chuck just leaning over looking at Wiman after the first round was sort of funny.

Nothingcompares · 09-06-2008 03:21AM

i was in the o2 myself, actually thought it was fairly ****. i mean, it was good but for a ridiculous amount of money. i don't think i'll travel again to ufc unless i'm with a troop of people. atmosphere for the undercard was non-existent, a lot of meat heads there shouting etc. spent 70% of the time looking at the big screen...

Kazooie · 09-06-2008 08:48AM

Nothingcompares wrote: »

i was in the o2 myself, actually thought it was fairly ****. i mean, it was good but for a ridiculous amount of money. i don't think i'll travel again to ufc unless i'm with a troop of people. atmosphere for the undercard was non-existent, a lot of meat heads there shouting etc. spent 70% of the time looking at the big screen...

Where were you sitting? I was in the middle tier and the view was amazing. Did have to look up at the screens a couple of times though when the action was on the ground.

09-06-2008 10:22AM

Got back late last night.

Had a great weekend. The event was great, my only problem was the abundance of meathead spastics shouting stupid sh1t and acting like they were MMAs encyclopedia. One lad was actin the know it all and he based his opinion that Alves would beat Hughes based on the time he watched Hughes fight Anderson Silva....... the 2 lads in front of us videotaped every single walk around that the ring girls did..... another fella in the food queue started claimin he could kill most of the fighters as he had training for years in "Chinese boxing" .....sh1t like that. I also had to look at the screens as one of the cameramen was fat and kept gettin in our way when the fighters went to a particular part of the cage.

I did meet Ernesto Hoost, Martin Kampmaan, Bisping and Dana again who (again) told me that they were comin to Ireland next year. He did tell me that last year too though so wait and see.

As for the fights, was suprised they didnt show Sanchez vs Hardonk on TV, was pretty exciting. Matt Wiman looked great, really suprised me, he was excellent on the ground. Kampmaan looked awesome, great to see him back in the cage. Marquardts second foul was harsh but AFIK spiking an opponent is illegal so it balanced out. His indiscipline cost him. Vera stoppage was harsh, especially as it was that particular ref and the punches were hittin hsi arm, howevwer at the same time he wasnt lloking like he was gonna go anywhere so if the round wasnt so close to the finish then he was gonna get stopped anyway...... Davis Swick turned out to be boring, a Mexican wave got into full swing during that one. Bisping looked awesome while Hughes looks like he just has no confidence in himself when standing on 2 feet. I mean pulling guard? All in all a good show.

dunkamania · 09-06-2008 10:49AM

Anyone else think its a bit presumptious of Alves to call for a title shot considering he didnt make weight?

Alves was impressive though, I thought Hughes was injured if he was pulling guard, but apparently not.

Wiman very impressive

Once again Vera shows he probably belongs at LHW, early stoppage or not

Bisping looked the best I have ever seen him, but he doesnt appear to have KO power, which could cost him against the big punchers in the division

Charlie3dan · 09-06-2008 10:57AM

Anyone have any videos of the fights? Missed the whole thing

09-06-2008 10:58AM

dunkamania wrote: »

Anyone else think its a bit presumptious of Alves to call for a title shot considering he didnt make weight?

Alves was impressive though, I thought Hughes was injured if he was pulling guard, but apparently not.

Wiman very impressive

Once again Vera shows he probably belongs at LHW, early stoppage or not

Bisping looked the best I have ever seen him, but he doesnt appear to have KO power, which could cost him against the big punchers in the division

Well when u dont make weight and have previously got caught for steroids....its a bit much to say "I've been a good boy". Considering Fitch absolutely destroyed him I dont see him being champ anytime soon but he is the next logical contender unless BJ comes up.

Vera at LHW would be better suited, he needs to stop being lazy with his dieting. 228lbs...I mean most LHWs walk around heavier than that.

goo · 09-06-2008 10:59AM

http://www.cagepotato.com/
There's a bunch there, definitely. Almost all of them should be on mmaroot.com

Dragan · 09-06-2008 11:10AM

dunkamania wrote: »

Anyone else think its a bit presumptious of Alves to call for a title shot considering he didnt make weight?

Yes, to be honest. He's in a pretty stacked division and while he has had a good two years he also has a failed drugs test and now weight cutting issues....which just looks worse when you get busted for diuretics.

Hughes wasn't exactly in the title picture right now so beating him shouldn't get you there either. One more quality win over another top tier welterweight and yes....title shot.

Not till then.

Nothingcompares · 09-06-2008 11:47AM

I was sitting in BK115 level 1 so I was sitting in line with a big screen which was covered by the rigging.

Alves probably needs to do a number on someone like Josh Kosheck to get a title fight if Fitch beats GSP (which is a strong possibility) or beat Fitch to get a title shot at GSP, presuming BJ doesn't come in before that .

goo · 09-06-2008 02:10PM

Nothingcompares wrote: »

if Fitch beats GSP (which is a strong possibility)

WOW. Really?

johnny_adidas · 09-06-2008 04:06PM

bit better than i was yesterday but still dodgy hehehe. doubt i was the only one though as there were a lot of tired heads on the flight into waterford.
3 of us went over to it with our partners and by all accounts everyone had a great time. luckily we didnt have many of the 'meatheads' around us and had a great bit of banter etc with the group of american soldiers that were in our vicinty.
we were sitting mid way up level one and could see a lot of what went on in the ring but obviously the screens gave a better picture, as was to be expected by the medium priced tickets.
got a few photos of chuck as he was leaving. My OH almost got a photo with him but a bouncer stopped her about 3 feet from him. i would've seriously cracked up as she only really went for the shopping

, as it was she managed to get a few with joe rogan.
the atmosphere for bisbing was electric, must get a serious boost from the crowd. impressed once again at middleweight. anyone think they will give him a shot at franklin or silva soon or will they protect their huge uk draw for a while longer and feed him a few more victims?
Wiman's fight was great, glad he got fight of the night. missed the sanchez fight as we hadnt allowed enough time to get to the arena from our hotel but saw the knockout last nite on the setanta repeat. all in all it was an expensive enough weekend but we all agreed it was well worth it

09-06-2008 04:13PM

Nothingcompares wrote: »

Alves probably needs to do a number on someone like Josh Kosheck to get a title fight if Fitch beats GSP (which is a strong possibility) or beat Fitch to get a title shot at GSP, presuming BJ doesn't come in before that .

Well considering how badly Fitch served Alves before.....

I dont see Fitch beating GSP at all tbh. He didnt impress me in his last fight at all.

buzz · 09-06-2008 04:43PM

Still cant believe hughes got beat, in the 2nd minute of the 2nd round.......

and the way he came down on that left knee:o

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