Citizens arrests

Phil01 · 30-05-2008 03:54PM #1

Anyone ever make or seen a Citizens arrest??

RedXIV · 30-05-2008 03:56PM

Can we do this? coz i thought that was the same as being a vigilante

Rob_l · 30-05-2008 03:58PM

RedXIV wrote: »

Can we do this? coz i thought that was the same as being a vigilante

Yeah Im with you I dont think thats an Irish legal thing OP I think you watch too much american TV.

I want my second amendment right OP

stevoman · 30-05-2008 03:58PM

please refer to my doo - gooders thread that was locked.

stevoman · 30-05-2008 03:59PM

RedXIV wrote: »

Can we do this? coz i thought that was the same as being a vigilante

i always wanted to be a vigilante! i can swing a bag or doorknobs good too!

30-05-2008 03:59PM

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Keano · 30-05-2008 04:11PM

The answer is in here somewhere....

http://historical-debates.oireachtas.ie/S/0150/S.0150.199704100004.html

Pigletlover · 30-05-2008 04:14PM

I've always wondered what the story was with these. So you see someone breaking the law and say 'Stop, this is a citizen's arrest' or whatever, they tell you to go fcuk yourself, and you do what exactly???

Ponster · 30-05-2008 04:15PM

I'm pretty sure that it exists in the UK so did we change our laws at some stage in the past to exclude it?

30-05-2008 04:16PM

Imagine going up to a junky in Dublin/wherever whos doing their business and going
''This is a citizens' arrest''

I am sure that would go swimmingly.

Rob_l · 30-05-2008 04:16PM

Pigletlover wrote: »

I've always wondered what the story was with these. So you see someone breaking the law and say 'Stop, this is a citizen's arrest' or whatever, they tell you to go fcuk yourself, and you do what exactly???

Introduce them to shotgun therapy?

biko · 30-05-2008 04:17PM

Happened in Ennis http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76801

Cregan immediately called for the six to stop. “I am placing you all under citizen’s arrest. Do not move” he shouted as the stunned men came to a halt. After assuring the men that they were not in jeopardy the peace activist made an emergency call to Ennis Garda Station. Cregan called for the Member in charge to send a van to pick up these awol soldiers but Garda O'Sullivan’s response was less than helpful. The deskbound officer was more interested to know if they were armed or their commander in chief George W Bush was among them. Mind you he wasn’t so funny when reminded that that all emergency calls were recorded.

Ponster · 30-05-2008 04:17PM

Pigletlover wrote: »

I've always wondered what the story was with these. So you see someone breaking the law and say 'Stop, this is a citizen's arrest' or whatever, they tell you to go fcuk yourself, and you do what exactly???

Depends on if the crime has been committed or if the person is in the middle of it, on how sure you are that it's a crime being committed and how important it is to you that you stop the person.

The British police have some good info...

http://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q508.htm

Caoimhín · 30-05-2008 04:20PM

biko wrote: »

Happened in Ennis http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76801

Its such a shame that those brave US marines didnt kick the s*ite out of that skanky, hairy little hippy scumbag.

biko · 30-05-2008 04:28PM

caoibhin wrote: »

Its such a shame that those brave US marines didnt kick the s*ite out of that skanky, hairy little hippy scumbag.

Stop spreading your message of violence.

Caoimhín · 30-05-2008 04:28PM

biko wrote: »

Stop spreading your message of violence.

No. I f*cking hate hippies.

Degsy · 30-05-2008 04:29PM

caoibhin wrote: »

No. I f*cking hate hippies.

Me too.Reclaim the streets?How about they reclaim the ability to wash themselves?

nice1franko · 30-05-2008 04:37PM

years ago, a youngfella from our area robbed an armful of stuff from the back of a truck that was making a delivery to the shops. he legged it down our road and was hiding in one of the neighbours gardens. the oulad scully came out and grabbed him by the scruff and says "you're under citizens arrest" and the fella turned around and loafed him in the head. that was the end of that citizens arrest.

Phil01 · 30-05-2008 04:40PM

nice1franko wrote: »

years ago, a youngfella from our area robbed an armful of stuff from the back of a truck that was making a delivery to the shops. he legged it down our road and was hiding in one of the neighbours gardens. the oulad scully came out and grabbed him by the scruff and says "you're under citizens arrest" and the fella turned around and loafed him in the head. that was the end of that citizens arrest.

I don't think the citizen arrest has any substance here in Ireland, and even if it did, i dont think it would change any situation. Your always going to get a hit from someone who doesn't want to be caught by someone of no authority.

Dinter · 30-05-2008 04:43PM

Degsy wrote: »

Me too.Reclaim the streets?How about they reclaim the ability to wash themselves?

No man, think of where that water comes from. All those harsh chemicals they use to purify it. Don’t people realise that the earth is everyone’s home? My carbon footprint from regular showers could be enough to tip the balance.

Anyway I can't have it on my conscience that I killed the millions of bugs and germs that infest my oily locks. I’d be as bad a genocidal maniac George Bush.

That’s why I bathe in the urine I collect during our rallies. It’s 100% natural and good for you.

That’s the reason why when I’m going to collect the dole I make sure I walk. Public transport is bad. It’s just what the man wants you to do.

Washing is conformity and I don’t conform. I’m far too out there for that.

robinph · 30-05-2008 04:44PM

When I was a kid there were some theives being chased through a shopping centre by the security, a bit of shouting, my mum trying to yell at me to get me to get out of the way, and in my confusion I ended up triping them up as I ran out of the way in the wrong direction with the security landing on top of them shortly afterwards.

Think that counts as me aprehending some criminals, even if there wasn't much intent to be so "heroic" on my part.

Caoimhín · 30-05-2008 04:45PM

Dinter wrote: »

No man, think of where that water comes from. All those harsh chemicals they use to purify it. Don’t people realise that the earth is everyone’s home? My carbon footprint from regular showers could be enough to tip the balance.

Anyway I can't have it on my conscience that I killed the millions of bugs and germs that infest my oily locks. I’d be as bad a genocidal maniac George Bush.

That’s why I bathe in the urine I collect during our rallies. It’s 100% natural and good for you.

That’s the reason why when I’m going to collect the dole I make sure I walk. Public transport is bad. It’s just what the man wants you to do.

Washing is conformity and I don’t conform. I’m far too out there for that.

Yeah your righteous dude.. Fight the man.

chuci · 30-05-2008 04:46PM

thought that it was just in the movies? im sure if i went up to some "wan" as she was doing illegally and said "stop this is a citizens arrest" im sure that would go down reeeally well.

kevmy · 30-05-2008 04:48PM

Well as far as I know you can't 'arrest' someone but if you see someone performing an obviously illegal act you can tackle them or apprehend them or whatever and then call the guards.

When you think about it really that's all the power that security guards have in places like shopping centre, the right to hold someone who they suspect has performed an illegal act.

Keano · 30-05-2008 04:48PM

I know of a hippy anti-war protestor who tried to carry out a citizens arrest on US soldiers as they were out in their uniforms and he claimed that they broke some law :rolleyes:

Edit: that would be the story biko

MOH · 30-05-2008 04:52PM

biko wrote: »

Happened in Ennis http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76801

With an average of 1100 hundred troops going through Irelands second international airport on a nightly basis these aircraft are flat out ferrying young men and women to Iraq

1100 hundred troops a night? That's a million every 9 days, how have they not 'pacified' Iraq by now?

Caoimhín · 30-05-2008 04:53PM

Keano A Legend wrote: »

I know of a hippy anti-war protestor who tried to carry out a citizens arrest on US soldiers as they were out in their uniforms and he claimed that they broke some law :rolleyes:

You know the whereabouts of a hippy and you haven't set it on fire?
Shame on you.

Manic Moran · 30-05-2008 04:53PM

Citizen's arrests are pretty much a moot point if the arrestors do not outnumber the arrestees, or are not armed. Since this rarely is the case, CAs are equally rare.

Besides, these days an honest mistake "He was beating the crap out of the woman on the street, how was I to know she gets sexual pleasure out of public masochism?" is likely to wind up with getting yourself sued out the arse, so it's just not worth it.

Or even "He was in the process of conducting an armed robbery of the supermarket with a shotgun. I disarmed him by battering him with a baguette and then sat on him 'till the Gardai arrived. He is now sueing me for excess force, a small cut caused by a flake of crust, and psychological trauma"

NTM

30-05-2008 04:55PM

kevmy wrote: »

Well as far as I know you can't 'arrest' someone but if you see someone performing an obviously illegal act you can tackle them or apprehend them or whatever and then call the guards.

Have you ever considered the potential civil liabilities of such an action, especially if the suspect is injured while you are tackling them?

Red Hand · 30-05-2008 04:58PM

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Have you ever considered the potential civil liabilities of such an action, especially if the suspect is injured while you are tackling them?

Well, it depends totally upon who is tackling me! Some females could be allowed great civil liabilities with me...:eek:

30-05-2008 05:02PM

stevoman wrote: »

please refer to my doo - gooders thread that was locked.

No.

MOH wrote: »

1100 hundred troops a night? That's a million every 9 days, how have they not 'pacified' Iraq by now?

".....durrrrrr.....I can do maths, me......."

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