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prendy · 29-05-2008 04:48PM

i've been living close to Tolka for a year now and i havnt seen much notice of any games, either as leaflets or billboards etc. I have been to a number of EL games as i really love the buzz of live football but my point is that they dont really entice people to come to these games.
Surely in this country the way to get crowds is to market the games as a social outing, e.g the greyhounds.

i know its not the same but i have a point buried in there somewhere!

Gavin "shels" · 29-05-2008 05:03PM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

When?

Start off 2007.

Gavin "shels" · 29-05-2008 05:05PM

prendy wrote: »

i've been living close to Tolka for a year now and i havnt seen much notice of any games, either as leaflets or billboards etc. I have been to a number of EL games as i really love the buzz of live football but my point is that they dont really entice people to come to these games.
Surely in this country the way to get crowds is to market the games as a social outing, e.g the greyhounds.

i know its not the same but i have a point buried in there somewhere!

Why if you havne't noticed there is 2 big signs on Richmond Rd, one facing Grace Park Rd and the other facing the houses opposite Tolka, both with the next game and time on it.

hunter164 · 29-05-2008 05:33PM

Shels are also trying to promote themselves a lot more lately in order to get more fans.

SectionF · 29-05-2008 05:58PM

Draupnir wrote: »

First, if you had a choice of two shops in which to buy your banana's and one of those shops sold some of the best banana's available anywhere in the world whilst the second shop sold reasonably ok banana's, which shop would you go to? Would the fact that other people you know like the reasonably ok banana's make a difference?

In this case, one of the shops is selling bananas, the other is selling (moving) pictures of bigger,fatter, yellower bananas.

Draupnir wrote: »

At the end of the day, I don't care what team you support, what cinema you go see movies at, what chipper you like, what chocolate bar you buy. I know what ones I like though and I enjoy them all.

That's as close as it gets to explaining what is happening, because that is nothing more than consumerism. My sheckles, as seen earlier in this thread, my choice.
Which is fine... it's a free country and all that... but how does it square with swearing undying allegiance to ManU or Celtic, dressing up as one of their players, and referring to them as 'we'?
If we are talking on the same level as chocolate, chips, bananas and cinemas, then you should change teams every week according to who is providing best value for money. But you don't.

Gavin "shels" · 29-05-2008 06:00PM

hunter164 wrote: »

Shels are also trying to promote themselves a lot more lately in order to get more fans.

Most clubs do promote themselves to get more fans, a footbal club is a business which needs promotes, usually more fans equal more money.

Draupnir · 30-05-2008 08:01AM

SectionF wrote: »

In this case, one of the shops is selling bananas, the other is selling (moving) pictures of bigger,fatter, yellower bananas.

That's as close as it gets to explaining what is happening, because that is nothing more than consumerism. My sheckles, as seen earlier in this thread, my choice.
Which is fine... it's a free country and all that... but how does it square with swearing undying allegiance to ManU or Celtic, dressing up as one of their players, and referring to them as 'we'?
If we are talking on the same level as chocolate, chips, bananas and cinemas, then you should change teams every week according to who is providing best value for money. But you don't.

How are Bohs anymore 'we' to you than United would be 'we' to me? You don't play for the first team.

bohsman · 30-05-2008 08:10AM

By paying a few quid a year to become a member and be part owner of the club?

Draupnir · 30-05-2008 08:28AM

So does that mean that Shelbourne fans cant call Shelbourne "we"? It's becoming even more difficult to be a supporter of anyone based on this logic!

bohsman · 30-05-2008 08:32AM

tbh you're asking the wrong person, outside of the terraces Id rarely refer to Bohs as "we".

SectionF · 30-05-2008 08:35AM

Draupnir wrote: »

How are Bohs anymore 'we' to you than United would be 'we' to me? You don't play for the first team.

In addition to membership, Bohs are 'we' because we are from the same place and share a past and, in the case of some clubs, values. They, the players, walk like us, talk like us, and know the things we know. The only difference is that they play better football.

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