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Dabbling in 'black' arts

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    #152
    Covenline
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭Covenline


    Sapien wrote:
    The exceptions would be esoteric forms of Satanism which are, for the most part, complete bosh.

    Which esoteric forms of satanism are you talking about specificly?


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    #153
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    dent wrote:
    In terms of magic as discussed in this thread it seems that its quite a personal and private experience for the people using it. It seems that even reflecting on its use may even hamper its effects.

    For some posters here it is tied in with spiritual and religous matters.
    dent wrote:
    Seems that it might be quite difficult gathering empirical evidence of its effects.

    Have any magic users attempted to gather empirical evidence of its effects? Or would the very act stop the magic from working?

    It depends on what empirical evidence is being atempted to be gathered.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=53525348&postcount=5


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    #154
    Sapien
    Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    Covenline wrote:
    Which esoteric forms of satanism are you talking about specificly?
    LaVeyan Satanism and Setian Satanism mostly.


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    #155
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Poor Set.


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    #156
    Sapien
    Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    Thaedydal wrote:
    Poor Set.
    Oh no, I'm very fond of Set. It's just some of the syncretistic versions of him lack elegance and depth.


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    #157
    Nevyn
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    I am too but really he lucked out not being the desert god that didn't get his name and worship spread over a fair part of the globe.


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    #158
    Talliesin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    Which is worse, not having your name and worship spread over a fair part of the globe, or having Michael Aquino try? :)

    (Reminded of an Oscar Wilde line about being talked about).


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    #159
    dent
    Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭dent


    Thaedydal wrote:
    It depends on what empirical evidence is being atempted to be gathered.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=53525348&postcount=5
    Talliesin wrote:
    It is a very good practice to keep an account of what is worked for and later to note whether it was attained, to what extent, and whether there was anything notable in how it came to pass.

    For some magic workers this is of direct interest, for others its of interest only in so much as it helps one to hone one's craft (just as a programmer has an interest in computer science or a blacksmith in metallurgy not so much in themselves, but in how that informs those crafts).

    Seems like there might be plenty of data out there. Has anyone attempted to publish the results? I guess there might be little point for the practitioners as they have no reason to convince anyone else that it works.

    I think its off to Google for me :)


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    #160
    Talliesin
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    dent wrote:
    Has anyone attempted to publish the results? I guess there might be little point for the practitioners as they have no reason to convince anyone else that it works.
    And little hope of doing so.

    There are plenty of magical journals published, including those of some of the best-known magicians in the world. Now, why should a sceptical assessment of them accept a single word of them? Their value really is not towards sceptical enquiry.


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    #161
    mike m
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    I was wondering if you might have any info on what kind of offerings I could leave for the celtic goddess morigan that would be appreciated?
    If not then I am truly sorry to bother you thanks.


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    #162
    Nerin
    Registered Users Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭Nerin


    mike m wrote: »
    I was wondering if you might have any info on what kind of offerings I could leave for the celtic goddess morigan that would be appreciated?
    If not then I am truly sorry to bother you thanks.
    paganism forum
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=256


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    #163
    [Deleted User]
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    mike m wrote: »
    I was wondering if you might have any info on what kind of offerings I could leave for the celtic goddess morigan that would be appreciated?
    If not then I am truly sorry to bother you thanks.

    If my history of Irish folklore serves me correct , i believe the main appreciated offering would be cheese.


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    #164
    stevenmu
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Posts re Morrigan copied to here aswell which should provide some more detail.


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    #165
    Crann na Beatha
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    #166
    Sapien
    Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Sapien


    Iolar wrote: »
    Has anyone ever conjured a demon or an evil spirit?or do you get youre info from books?
    These are exclusive?


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