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Irish people and English people

  • 17-05-2008 10:18PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭


    It seems to me that the Irish and English are nothing like each other, despite the claims of some boards users. Being English, and coming into contact with English forum users also, the two nations are physically close but worlds apart mentally.

    Discuss, if you feel like it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Nope.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    You are very interested in this Ireland/England thing, didn't you have a thread before on differences between living in Ireland and England?

    Imo being in contact with lots of English people face to face, I can see very little difference between us if anything from my own experiences the English are possibly more polite in general particularly in London but that is only my own experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Redpunto


    We are taught completely different history in school. Ask any english person bout 1916,,they wont have a clue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    You are very interested in this Ireland/England thing, didn't you have a thread before on differences between living in Ireland and England?

    Imo being in contact with lots of English people face to face, I can see very little difference between us if anything from my own experiences the English are possibly more polite in general particularly in London but that is only my own experience.

    Yeah, know its a little dull, but hey I'm bored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Redpunto wrote: »
    We are taught completely different history in school. Ask any english person bout 1916,,they wont have a clue


    ask any irish person and they will probably know very little about it also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    I'm shocked by the OP. Didn't you see how well the North mixed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    1916 already posted, its only a matter of time before the anti-english/british and the 800 years of oppression posts kick in.

    I don't think we're worlds apart but there is differences. Saying that there is differences between english lads and scottish lads. Most noticeable difference for me was that english pubs suck and lack a good amount of taps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable



    I don't think we're worlds apart but there is differences. Saying that there is differences between english lads and scottish lads. Most noticeable difference for me was that english pubs suck and lack a good amount of taps.

    You lived in Scotland and England?

    I have too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I have scottish and english friends. Scottish seem different to the english lads. Especially their bloody IRN BRU obession


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    I have scottish and english friends. Scottish seem different to the english lads. Especially their bloody IRN BRU obession

    Oh that is on no doubt. South of England especially and Scotland are worlds apart.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭KBarry


    I'm English too (albeit with Irish parentage and passport) and I don't think there's much difference at all. If pushed I'll say the Irish are more easy-going and the English are more polite, but overall we're pretty much the same.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Real B-man


    Paddy English Man Paddy Irish Man....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    At least we aren't French.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Intothesea


    This is an interesting topic I think OP.
    I would equate the English 'national character'
    or cultural one with ESTJ (using the MBTI system),
    while the Irish one is more INFP or INFJ. Definitely
    opposing on sensing/thinking and intuition/feeling
    anyway. America registers as ESTP for me.

    /0.02 :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Jebus Jung on After Hours! :eek:

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    I'm hugely confused Ted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I. Most noticeable difference for me was that english pubs suck and lack a good amount of taps.


    Have to say I have had some great great nights out in London, certain pub in London,sadly not there anymore has moved streets, but was a great great pub, people allowed to dance on the tables, bar counters, people friendly. But down to personal opinion :);)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭TomMc


    I think we are similar enough in general terms, except that English people are more polite and reserved, wittier and have a greater sense of fair play. At least those that were reared in ye olde England or in urban areas away from the underclass. There is a reason why in Ireland we like the English but dislike the British. Subtle but profound difference.

    I like the English psyche myself, maybe more than our own (a certain young Lady probably has me perceive things through rose tinted specs). One area where I see a real difference, is that over here we like to break or bend rules (too lax) where as in the UK, they are more rigid, less flexible, to much by the book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Intothesea wrote: »
    This is an interesting topic I think OP.
    I would equate the English 'national character'
    or cultural one with ESTJ (using the MBTI system),
    while the Irish one is more INFP or INFJ. Definitely
    opposing on sensing/thinking and intuition/feeling
    anyway. America registers as ESTP for me.

    /0.02 :)

    Huh? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Intothesea


    Huh? :confused:

    Nothing a tussle with google wouldn't
    solve I'm sure. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Intothesea wrote: »
    Nothing a tussle with google wouldn't
    solve I'm sure. :pac:

    Damn. I was hoping you'd throw up an idiots guide version for me.

    Ah well, off to Google.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    irish tend to be a little bit more perochial, but other that, i dont really see any great differences that are not explained by localisation.

    its easy to say there are vast differences between english and irish, but then again, there are vast differences between dubs and kerry people.

    i think if you look at it from a higher view, youll find that general attitudes, social acceptances and overall cultures have tended to come closer together over the last 50 years.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    ENTJ's ftw!... wait, does this mean i'm not irish? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Affable wrote: »
    It seems to me that the Irish and English are nothing like each other, despite the claims of some boards users. Being English, and coming into contact with English forum users also, the two nations are physically close but worlds apart mentally.

    Discuss, if you feel like it.

    Maybe you should discuss here:

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=904

    Just so you're not using the oppressor's tongue. :)

    Seriously though, I was born in Manchester, lived there 'til I was 13 and have a lot of family there. Have lived here since then. I think we are definitely more alike than other 'close proximity' countries in Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Does the UK infrastructure and overall development in general make living in the UK better?

    Or am I off topic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    To a china man we are all the same.

    There are local differences among people, but if you look at the vast differences between some of the different cltures all over the world, ourselves and the Queens subjects are essentially the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    snyper wrote: »
    To a china man we are all the same.

    Non-party members?


    I would agree that there is very few differences between us and our pond sharing neighbours. I've enjoyed myself every time I've been over there. Nice folks, the English.




    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Thrill wrote: »
    Non-party members?


    I would agree that there is very few differences between us and our pond sharing neighbours. I've enjoyed myself every time I've been over there. Nice folks, the English.




    .

    Good to hear, I'm a Welsh man living in Ireland and always enjoy myself on trips to the uk...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    There is a definate difference between the in accents, use of volcabuary, customs- we say St. Stephens day they say Boxing day etc etc, schools systems, History (in all its forms)

    I wouldn't like to live in England as I knowpeople in real life and messageboards who can't wait to get out of the Nanny State. I know for a fact that you have to get planning permission to put up removable jumps in a field that is owned by that person. God forbid if Ireland gets to that stage!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,974 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    I am moving to England soon. As a Northerner I have never felt at home here. England has always seemed much more sensible and straight-forward to me.

    We didn't have RTE growing up so as a Northerner, I think I share much more with the English than those in the Republic possibly due to media influence.

    In terms of history taught in schools, I think there appears to be a massive anti-British indoctrination process and a re-writing of history. I have a friend, who acknowledges that the history books say that there was no popular support for 1916 and says instead there was indifference!

    People are much more conservative here but I think that it is because the people currently in power, in politics and industry etc, were developed in what amounted to a puppet state of the Catholic church. The younger generations will not have that hanging over their head and as a result I think future generations in Ireland will be much more similar to their English counterparts.

    But I suppose, given globalisation, mass communication and corporatism; they will be more similar to the Americans, Australians and other nations with the same mother tongue.


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