Most Disimproved Player?

Boggles · 14-05-2008 11:16AM

5ForKeeps wrote: »

Counter the fact it was his second court battle in less than 3 years, the other a serious offence where he caused a death to a pedestrian.

Yeah but 3 years ago he was playing well.

5ForKeeps · 14-05-2008 11:20AM

Boggles wrote: »

Yeah but 3 years ago he was playing well.

He was playing well yes, but the last 18 months he hasn't been when this court case started. Like any death in life it can take time for it to hit someone. That case only ended at end of 2006 and the beginning of 2007, then this one just started February of 2007. The strain on him surely has had an effect.

Boggles · 14-05-2008 11:25AM

5ForKeeps wrote: »

He was playing well yes, but the the 18 months he hasn't been. Like any death in life it can take time for it to hit someone.

Sorry I'm not having that mate, you acredited his dip to a court case involving a land dispute a few posts back. Now your saying it is post traumatic stress 3 and a half years on. So unless your a shrink and have reviewed his file I'm not buying it.

More plausable maybe?

Finnan picks up some form of injury every 3 months?

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/210/steve_finnan_injury.html

5ForKeeps · 14-05-2008 11:32AM

Boggles wrote: »

Sorry I'm not having that mate, you acredited his dip to a court case involving a land dispute a few posts back. Now your saying it is post traumatic stress 3 and a half years on. So unless your a shrink and have reviewed his file I'm not buying it.

More plausable maybe?

Finnan picks up some form of injury every 3 months?

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/210/steve_finnan_injury.html

I don't know the true cause of what has happened to his form, injuries apart, even Arsene Wenger has said the most important part of football is the mentality of the player, even Rafa Benitez and Fergie are akin to this. Did i mention post traumatic stress? All i wanted to do was come up with some reasons, it's a discussion forum. I don't have anything or put forward anything for you to buy Boggles but your reputation precedes you, i respect your comments and take them on board.....ah thank you!!!

Boggles · 14-05-2008 11:36AM

5ForKeeps wrote: »

All i wanted to do was come up with some reasons, it's a discussion forum.

I have discussed the point with you sensibly.

5ForKeeps wrote: »

I don't have anything or put forward anything for you to buy Boggles but your reputation precedes you,

What do you mean by that?

5ForKeeps · 14-05-2008 11:39AM

Boggles wrote: »

I have discussed the point with you sensibly.

What do you mean by that?

I've been reading all the topics over the last number of weeks and months and you seem to have rep for annoying some of your fellow Utd supporters and other clubs supporters thats all...nothing personal

Boggles · 14-05-2008 11:44AM

5ForKeeps wrote: »

I've been reading all the topics over the last number of weeks and months and you seem to have rep for annoying some of your fellow Utd supporters and other clubs supporters thats all...nothing personal

Haha, that is the nature of the football forum I am afraid, alot of people need thicker skins.

IrishMike · 14-05-2008 11:45AM

Boggles wrote: »

Haha, that is the nature of the football forum I am afraid, alot of people need thicker skins.

Not really, its the fact that you are so adept at trolling and annoying people
Harsh statement but fair.

Nalz · 14-05-2008 12:07PM

if the past 6 weeks is anything to go by, Michael Carrick. who is now even more so a first team player for Man United. Had an awful April/May imo

evil_seed · 14-05-2008 12:19PM

Alan Smith

Havermeyer · 14-05-2008 12:32PM

Reo-Coker.

Was probably always ****e, but has been definitely found out this season.

Charlie · 14-05-2008 12:41PM

Damien Duff

Celtic67 · 14-05-2008 01:20PM

For me the most disappoitning has to be Pedersen at Blackburn as he managed to play in the majority of league games this season but has had a much less impact, though he did improve in the last few games.

As regards people mentioning Finnan I think is a bit harsh, while he only played 17 league games I did not notice a major drop in his performance level when he did play. As for John O'Shea, his performances have been decidely average for the last couple of seasons but definitely not most disimproved.

Though he has been injured a lot, anytime Damien Duff played he has looked muck. As far as I am concerned he is the Irish Beckham in that the Irish press constantly overstated his performances for Ireland. I can recall being at Irish matches where he hardly touched the ball and the press were giving him 9/10 ratings. Had a great spell though around the 2002 World Cup.

Boggles · 14-05-2008 01:26PM

IrishMike wrote: »

Not really, its the fact that you are so adept at trolling and annoying people
Harsh statement but fair.

IrishMike your one of the most aggressive poster on here, not a week goes by that you are not calling for someone to be banned.

If People annoy you that much, put them on ignore or report the post, if you can't do those 2 simple things then píss off over to the ladies lounge.

This is a soccer forum, where soccer should be debated not attacking the poster.

IrishMike · 14-05-2008 01:28PM

Boggles wrote: »

IrishMike your one of the most aggressive poster on here, not a week goes by that you are not calling for someone to be banned.

If People annoy you that much, put them on ignore or report the post, if you can't do those 2 simple things then píss off over to the ladies lounge.

This is a soccer forum, where soccer should be debated not attacking the poster.

Not at all true.
Never called for anyone to be banned until your spate of trolling posts in the Liverpool thread.
Ps i wasnt the only person who said it, there were a string of posts with the same opinion.
There is no smoke without fire in fairness.

gustavo · 14-05-2008 02:08PM

Definetly Chris Turner and Matthew Judge

Esse85 · 14-05-2008 02:22PM

nummnutts wrote: »

Reo-Coker.

Was probably always ****e, but has been definitely found out this season.

How many Villa games have you seen this season??

What do you base your answer on?

LuckyLloyd · 14-05-2008 03:51PM

Iago wrote: »

West Ham all of them

Your list is pretty bad - but you do realize that West Ham nearly got relegated last year??? So they didn't disimprove? FFS.

rosboy · 14-05-2008 05:26PM

Killme00 wrote: »

So why are Liverpool getting rid of him?

Liverpool have pretty much said that Riise, Crouch and Kewell are up for grabs (Kewell is out of contract anyways, but rejected a deal to keep him at Pool on a reduced wage). Aside from that they haven't said that anyone is up for grabs. There's a lot of speculation around Pennant and Alonso alright (hope to God Alonso doesn't go), but have seen very few reports that Finnan is on his way. Few reports aside from a little speculation here and there.

He has been pretty much an ever present in Benitez side when he has been fit, or at least as ever present as any player can be with Rafa.

If I'm wrong, can you post links. I'd be interested in reading about it. He may not be the best player there, but he is very consistent, and a good squad player.

GuanYin · 14-05-2008 06:55PM

5ForKeeps wrote: »

I've been reading all the topics over the last number of weeks and months and you seem to have rep for annoying some of your fellow Utd supporters and other clubs supporters thats all...nothing personal

[official mod comment]
Lets keep it on topic and not start making remarks about posters.

taidghbaby · 14-05-2008 08:51PM

Melion wrote: »

Probably Real's player of the year this season.

yeah robinho was their best player.......apart from:

casillas
sergio ramos
pepe
heinze
cannavaro
gago
guti
raul
sneijder
maybe robben.

for me it has to be malouda-the word innocuous springs to mind!!!!!!

flahavaj · 14-05-2008 09:45PM

mormank wrote: »

well do you think this is the big fish small pond scenarion. now im not sayin newcastle is a massive pond but it is perceived that way compared to what man city was when barton was there.

You talk about small ponds!? Newcastle is little more than a murky puddle!

armour87 · 14-05-2008 09:47PM

Couldn't be bothered to see if anyone has already posted this but for me it's been Kevin Doyle.

@ Whoever said Reo-Coker or Robinho, you don't have a scooby doo

An Citeog · 14-05-2008 10:12PM

taidghbaby wrote: »

yeah robinho was their best player.......apart from:

casillas
sergio ramos
pepe
heinze
cannavaro
gago
guti
raul
sneijder
maybe robben.

for me it has to be malouda-the word innocuous springs to mind!!!!!!

You seen much of Real this season? Robinho was by far their best player up until about Christmas, second only in La Liga to Messi imo. His off-field antics have gotten him in trouble since then and he hasn't been able to make the same impact. I think Casillas, Raul and possibly Guti had better overall seasons than him but I'd definitely have him ahead of the others.

delta_bravo · 14-05-2008 10:39PM

Tonio wrote: »

Gamst Pedersen. Was brilliant about two years ago scoring lots of spectacular goals. Has had a quiet season.

He was worse last season. I was quite happy with him this year. He isnt the playmaker anymore, Bentley deservedly has that role. Benni Mc Carthy has to top this if you compare his performance this year to last year

horsebokks · 15-05-2008 12:08AM

gilberto
lehmann
silvestre
baros
schevchenko
roy carroll
robbie savage
drogba???

MrPillowTalk · 15-05-2008 01:37AM

Iago wrote: »

ManU Van der Sar
Chelsea Lampard
Arsenal Eboue
Liverpool Riise
Everton Johnson
Villa Carson
Blackburn Pedersen
Portsmouth Mendes
Man Citeh Dunne
West Ham all of them
Spurs Robinson
Newcastle Barton
Middlesborough Rochemback (sp)
Wigan Siberski (although how good was he originally?)
Sunderland McShane
Bolton Nolan
Fulham Litmenan
Reading Lita
Birmingham Quedroe
Derby Carroll (although I'm not sure how good he was to start with!)

Seriously?

Dunne was immense for city this year, and VDS was every bit as good as last year.

IrishMike · 15-05-2008 08:08AM

horsebokks wrote: »

gilberto
lehmann
silvestre
baros
schevchenko
roy carroll
robbie savage
drogba???

Silvestre played 7 games for crying out loud.
He was injured all season.

Wasnt shevchenko rubbish last season too?

Xavi6 · 15-05-2008 08:11AM

I have to seriously LOL at those people naming the likes of Silvestre and Van Persie as having disimproved. Of course they had bad seasons, they were fucking injured for almost all of it!!!

IrishMike · 15-05-2008 08:38AM

Xavi6 wrote: »

I have to seriously LOL at those people naming the likes of Silvestre and Van Persie as having disimproved. Of course they had bad seasons, they were fucking injured for almost all of it!!!

+1
Not quite as funny as the people saying Richard Dunne had a bad season though

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