Most Disimproved Player?

rosboy

StickyMcGinty wrote: »

another player who's had his fair share of injuries this season

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/players/210/steve_finnan_injury.html

You beat me to it StickyMcGinty. Finnan was injured, so couldn't play.

Earlier on this thread someone made a comment about him going from a first team player to nowhere at all. Finnan missed 4 games around xmas because of injury, and 6 more in March/April. He's played 1959min of premiership football.

Mascherano (one of Liverpools best players this season) has played 2153min (about 1 game more), While Babel has only played 1420min.

machiavellianme wrote: »

Kuyt

IrishMike wrote: »

Kone Rosenborg Trondheim 9
Kuyt Liverpool 7
Luis Fabiano Sevilla FC 7
Ronaldo Manchester United 7
Drogba Chelsea 6
Gerrard Liverpool 6
Kanoute Sevilla FC 6
Messi Barcelona 6
Torres Liverpool 6
Babel Liverpool 5
Fabregas Arsenal 5
Ibrahimovic Internazionale 5
Pandev Lazio 5
Raul Real Madrid 5

CL scoring charts
7 is not a bad return for the most disimproved player in the premiership
Plus he came 5th in the liverpool fans player of the year vote.

Thanks Mike....you beat me to it. Kuyt's most used of playing as a striker. This year Rafa has asked him to play as a winger for a long period of the season. He's had to adapt to this new position, but has done so admirably. Rooney scored 12 goals this season. 14 goals the season before that. 16 goals the season before that. Is he disimproving? No. He's been played on the left wing often times. He's contributed in orther ways.

...that said, everyones entitled to their opinion.

And mine is Riise.

LuckyLloyd

rosboy wrote: »

You beat me to it StickyMcGinty. Finnan was injured, so couldn't play.

Earlier on this thread someone made a comment about him going from a first team player to nowhere at all. Finnan missed 4 games around xmas because of injury, and 6 more in March/April. He's played 1959min of premiership football.

Mascherano (one of Liverpools best players this season) has played 2153min (about 1 game more), While Babel has only played 1420min.

Yourself and Irishmike coming up with facts to support your arguments! Tsk, that sort of posting doesn't do well on a football forum ffs!

rosboy

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yourself and Irishmike coming up with facts to support your arguments! Tsk, that sort of posting doesn't do well on a football forum ffs!

I know.....sorry. Now where is that smiley for hanging my head in shame?

OpenYourEyes

Would disagree with oshea tbh, a good squad player imo, does the job like

Finnan has to be the biggest surprise! interesting to see wher he starts off next season!

Dont think doyle has gotten much worse, would put it down to reading getting worse, i think hed b bak to his old self in no time if he had a decent team behind him!

Mad_Max

rosboy wrote: »

You beat me to it StickyMcGinty. Finnan was injured, so couldn't play.

Earlier on this thread someone made a comment about him going from a first team player to nowhere at all. Finnan missed 4 games around xmas because of injury, and 6 more in March/April. He's played 1959min of premiership football.

Mascherano (one of Liverpools best players this season) has played 2153min (about 1 game more),

Forgive me if i've missed the jisst of this point but....

You say he's been injured but couldn't play and yet he's only missed 10 and only played 1 less than masch who seems to have played a lot of games.

Again i might have misread it, just seemed a contradiction of sorts.

Anyway for me the most disimproved would be Terry actually. Hasn't looked AS solid as before and the goals have dried up.

estebancambias

Cech.

APM

Ronaldinho

joe123

paul robinson surely has to get it?

Apart from that players who have gone backwards...

Mcarthy and pedersen at blackburn
Lita and Doyle at Reading
Alonso,Pennant at Liverpool
Van Persie at arsenal
Duff and Barton at Newcastle
Anelka at Chelsea
Senderos at Arsenal
Benjani at Man City(after the transfer)


I know im forgetting loads but there what spring to mind.

AckwelFoley

Damien duff.

I need not explain

joe123

Andrew Johnson...the list could go on forever

Unearthly

Carrick was on course for this award till around Christmas time but thankfully he has improved and back to his standard.

Would have to agree with Kevin Doyle, and to think people were touting him for Man Utd and Chelsea etc lol

Grid.

McShane was dreadful!

Invincible

Rooney was only a shadow of last year's performance.

MrPillowTalk

Fat Frank for me, still a good player mind but shows that he was overachieving for a while.

Boggles

Unearthly wrote: »

Would have to agree with Kevin Doyle, and to think people were touting him for Man Utd and Chelsea etc lol

To be fair to Doyle his extremely successful striking partner was taken from him, I watched Reading a few times this season and Doyle ran the Bollícks off himself. His partner for most of this season has to be one of the greediest players I have seen in some time.

MrPillowTalk

Invincible wrote: »

Rooney was only a shadow of last year's performance.

Are you serious?

Try looking at Uniteds results when he doesnt play, everything goes through him.

MrPillowTalk

Wouldnt lay the action on Doyle ending up at Sundireland next year.

OPENROAD

Bit harsh on Lampard imo, missed quite a few games this season, still banged in 10 goals and had 10 assists in the Premiership, which for a midfielder is still up there.

semibluff

i know its meant to be over this season, but id like to point out Ian Harte. Me and a mate had just been chattin about him tonight (whilst discussing keanos transfer blunders) Yeh he never was never brilliant, but he was a solid(ish) international player, and a very good club player who chipped in with goals. Now he's only 31 or so, and released by fookn levante and sunderland - thats alot steps backwards!

for the sake of keeping lloyd happy, and this thread on track :
Darren bent - bought for the same amount as thierry went for. terrible this year
Alan Smith - was he always this bad, was he being carried by man yoo?? terrible this year also

CHD

Claude Makelele

mormank

i think paolo ferreira has to get a mention here.

also the like of robbie savage.

Jazzy

wat ever happend to poor andrei schevchenko ? and even tho i hate chelski i was really excited to see him play in the PL when he came

Xavi6

Gridlock wrote: »

McShane was dreadful!

Apart from his debut for Ireland has he ever been good? I wouldn't say he's disimproved, he's just continued to be shite.

mormank wrote: »

i think paolo ferreira has to get a mention here.

Again, was he ever good to begin with? Remember, this is the guy who was hauled off at half time for Portugal in their first game of the last European Championships and didn't play again until injuries let him into the final. IMO he's never been good.

mormank

Xavi6 wrote: »

Apart from his debut for Ireland has he ever been good? I wouldn't say he's disimproved, he's just continued to be shite.



Again, was he ever good to begin with? Remember, this is the guy who was hauled off at half time for Portugal in their first game of the last European Championships and didn't play again until injuries let him into the final. IMO he's never been good.

well he was good enough to be bought for c20 million but chelsea in the first place and, like boswinga, really excelled at porto

MrPillowTalk

chdpoker wrote: »

Claude Makelele

I thought he playedwell when I watched him.

Unearthly

Xavi6 wrote: »

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Again, was he ever good to begin with? Remember, this is the guy who was hauled off at half time for Portugal in their first game of the last European Championships and didn't play again until injuries let him into the final. IMO he's never been good.

Bit harsh imo

Was part of Chelseas rock solid defence for 2 years when they won the premiership.

He went downhill in his 3rd season though

mormank

also kevin nolan would another contender imo

LuckyLloyd

I think Joey Barton is a good shout. McShane hasn't disimproved so much as the level he is pitted against week in and week out is a huge improvement over what he faced last season.

But Barton looked class when he was at City and has done little or nothing at Newcastle this year. Moving to Newcastle = death knell for careers imo.

mormank

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I think Joey Barton is a good shout. McShane hasn't disimproved so much as the level he is pitted against week in and week out is a huge improvement over what he faced last season.

But Barton looked class when he was at City and has done little or nothing at Newcastle this year. Moving to Newcastle = death knell for careers imo.

well do you think this is the big fish small pond scenarion. now im not sayin newcastle is a massive pond but it is perceived that way compared to what man city was when barton was there.

Xavi6

mormank wrote: »

well do you think this is the big fish small pond scenarion. now im not sayin newcastle is a massive pond but it is perceived that way compared to what man city was when barton was there.

Ah now come on. There is no way Newcastle this year is a bigger club than City were last year. He made a sideways step, a step down even.