Crack Cocaine

hear about crack around here a fair bit, but even here people say heroin is far worse.

surprised to hear about it being widespread in cork though because ive never heard of any seizres of it in ireland before/

and if its in cork its almost certainly going to be in dublin and limerick aswell

Mahatma coat wrote: »

tis generally the lowest of the low that fall into the downward spiral of drug addiction, those people who never had a chance to begin with.

Alcohol is a drug.
I know politicians, Doctors, Teachers who are addicts to the drug alcohol.
Thanks for YOUR profound insight.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

and you base this profoundinsight on??

what you will find with Crack/Heroin/Meth any of these 'life destroying' Drugs is that the peoples lives werent in that great a shape before they started taking them.

how about the many people that go on to lead perfectly normal fruitful lives and also use Drugs.

tis generally the lowest of the low that fall into the downward spiral of drug addiction, those people who never had a chance to begin with.

in this respect I feel that the Drugdealers are doing a social service

thats one of the most ridiculous comments i have ever heard. and it just goes to show you know absolutely nothing about the subject.

plenty of people from normal backgrounds end up addicted to crack and heroin. you see the mistake they make is that they under estimate how addictive these drugs actually are. they think they can use them recreationally or that they can try them just to see what they are like. but they are a lot more addictive than they could ever think. it might take a while for the physical addiction to take effect but the mental addiction can start from the first time they use them. they could go from being a normal person living a decent life to losing everything in the space of a few months. do you really think all these drug addicts you see on the streets were born like that? some of them did grow up in a community that meant they would inevitably end up on drugs, but others come from a very different background. you would be quite surprised. then there are people who have crippling addictions but manage to keep a normal front up so you could know them, but never know what is going on in their lives.

regarding crack in Dublin, yes it is readily available. but only if you know where to look. you wouldnt get offered it on the street, but it is defineitly there. the gardai do not tolerate crack dealers in any way at all. they know if they are caught selling crack that the gardai will really cause problems for them, and they also know that if it goes to court they will be looking at a heavy sentence. so they tend to sell over the phones rather than on the side of the street. it is sold to the same market as heroin so you wouldnt really come across it unless you were activelty looking. but the scary part is no matter how much crack they make, they can sell it. there is a huge demand for it. they could actually sell any amount of it they wanted to and they are make a killing off it.

so, it is out there.

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm surprised by that seeing as it would be so easy to make in thios country.

i was thinking this myself but for some reason nobody ever does. tbh i think it is because a lot of the recipes you get on the internet are just BS, and your average meth addict wouldnt really be on a holiday in ireland to teach peope how to make it. you see a chrystal meth addict is the equivalant of a heroin addict in ireland. in the US heroin isnt really considered a scumbag drug like it is here, but chrystal meth is the lowest of the low. the people who take it are really consdidered the scum of the earth.

ScumLord wrote: »

I've never come across or been offered crack, I've heard one or two stories about people being spiked or given it thinking it was something else but I'd take all those stories with a pinch of salt.

As far as I know crack has to be fairly pure which you won't get in Ireland. there's more profit out of selling mixed down coke to noobs.

i would definetly take any stories about people taking crack by mistake with a pinch of salt. unless someone put a pipe in their mouth without them knowing it i would seriously doubt it. you couldnt roll it in a spliff or anything like that so they would definitly know they smoked it.

you can make crack out of any coke really, it is just how much you will get back out of it. in other words if you had a gram of coke that was only 5% coke and you tried to cook it up, there would be nothing left of it to smoke. so you need good quality to begin with. nowadays what some dealers will do is have 2 batches of coke, they will have the standard stuff they sell to Job Bloggs to snort, and then they will have uncut quality stuff that they sell to people who are going to turn it into crack. they would obviously charge a lot more for the uncut stuff. most of the crack that is on sale in ireland originated here as coke, so it wasnt shipped here as crack, it was made here in ireland. when coke comes to ireland first it is a lot higher quality than by the time it hits the streets. everytime it passes through someones hands it gets cut down another bit. to give you an example, some dealers will tell you if the coke they have can be cooked up. its the first thing they say when they are offering it. they know what a lot of people want it for nowadays. at the moment there are dealers who have young guys out on the street with mobile phone selling crack 24 / 7 . they will get calls at all hours of the day and night with people looking for it. as i said before, no matter how much they make, there are plenty of customers.

beans wrote: »

I know of weekend-long parties ending up with a trip to the chemist for a bottle of ammonia, but never come across it for sale on it's own... Going on stories, crack is more something that gets washed-up by heavy coke users once they can't get high anymore, rather than being readily available.

Speculation, but I reckon that's where the genesis of much of the crack in the country lies.

tbh you cant beat cooking it up yourself becuase you know exactly what you are getting then. but its definetly available on its own, i guarantee you that. its just that the dealers know who their market is so you wouldnt be offered it on the street. also a lot of the dealers know if they are caught selling crack the gardai will make their life a misery so they wont risk being caught. it is all done via mobile phone. in fact unless you were regularly looking for heroin you wouldnt come across it. but its there alright. if you were in city centre now you could score crack in half an hour. you just have to know where to look.

gazzer wrote: »

what is diffrerent about the high between cocaine and crack?? Is it just more intense or a different type of high all together. Does it last longer than Coke?

crack is very intense but the buzz only last a few minutes. when you smoke it you get a serious whack off it. in fact if you arent used to it you will probably barf your ring. the buzz from coke lasts a lot longer but isnt as intense. the problem with crack is that the high is so intense and it is over so quickly, that it leaves you wanting more instantly. it makes you completely irrational. even if you think you will just try one pipe of it, you are up so high and down so quickly that you either crave another high straight away and will do anything to get it, or you need something to soften the downer, and that where heroin comes in. you really cant do one without the other. they go hand in hand. if you have a crack binge without gear to help you come down, you are going to have an almighty crash downwards that is just hell. if you think what a heavy comedown from coke is like and multiply it by 1000 you will get an idea of what the comedown from crack is like, and it will give you an idea why when people start using it they cant stop.