pre fight weight loss

mickoo · 10-05-2008 10:51PM

mma universe

EFR TAZ · 10-05-2008 10:59PM

oh dear take another look at the fights they have me fightin 3 times in the 1 night, one at light heavy im good but not that good, no there is another steven mccombe from sudden impact club they have us mixed up, he fights at midle now. they dont even have all my fights on it, hope that helps ya micko!

Nothingcompares · 10-05-2008 11:05PM

where and when is the mcveigh/mccoombe fight that sounds interesting?

Nevermind :

fighttalk wrote:

EFR Fight Teams Steve 'Taz' McCombe will fight Paul McVeigh for the Cagewarriors Bantamweight world Title on June 8th
Should be a great fight between the UK's top bantamweights

EFR TAZ · 10-05-2008 11:08PM

8th off june cagewarriors nottingham i think

Nothingcompares · 10-05-2008 11:10PM

goodluck

EFR TAZ · 10-05-2008 11:15PM

cheers mate

mickoo · 10-05-2008 11:20PM

Mcveigh is a slick submision fighter so this fight will be all about position..title staying with the irish either way!!

EFR TAZ · 10-05-2008 11:24PM

lol, you got that right!

Im2Lazy · 10-05-2008 11:28PM

Sorry if anyone got offended! None was intended:o

I realise cutting weight is a tough thing to do for a fighter & is now a major part of the sport nowadays. As myself & Khannie said in different ways

Khannie wrote:

It's all part of the fight preparation.

Im2Lazy wrote:

it's become the accepted norm.

I agree with cowzerp

cowzerp wrote: »

Its not cheating, the weigh in is the day before, so if you make the weight through legal means then fair play. legal means would be diet, sweat training, saunas.. illegal or at least immoral would be using drugs or duiretics..

your not breaking any rules offically but if you step into a ring over the weight limit your fighting at you're just beating the system but in a black & white, & possibly naive view is that still not breaking the rules?

EFR TAZ · 10-05-2008 11:47PM

cheers im2lazy ya might have i point but at the end of the day this is a professional sport, and you cant give the other fighter that sort of advantage, you have to look after yourself, and no offence your view does sound amaterish. have ya seen amir khan fightin lately 9 stone 12, he is not that weight when he steps in to the ring, so lean and powerful but hes a top pro..

Clive · 11-05-2008 12:32AM

Im2Lazy wrote: »

I agree with cowzerp your not breaking any rules offically but if you step into a ring over the weight limit your fighting at you're just beating the system but in a black & white, & possibly naive view is that still not breaking the rules?

No, since there is never any agreement of what weight you'll fight at, merely the weight you'll weigh in at.

Put it this way - if we have two fighters who both compete at their natural everyday weight, say 77kg.
Before the fight, one of them has a big dinner and comes into the ring at 78kg - is that cheating?

Mikel · 11-05-2008 08:12AM

it's part and parcel of any combat sport, and obviously it takes hard work, but it's still a fair point imo. Usually when it's brought up fighters get very defensive because they're being accused of breaking the rules (which they're not) and they can go through hell to make weight.
But, the spirit of the rules is that you have similar sized fighters, which is not always the case because if someone cuts a stone of water and puts it back on there can be a large difference in size. The usual counter is that his opponent could put on a stone of muscle and do the same cut, or go to a lighter weight category. Also, some guys find it easier but then again some guys find learning bjj easier than others too.
It's just part of the game I suppose, whether people like it or not we're stuck with it. You could reduce it with later weigh ins, but that could cause more problems than it solves

FiannaGym.com · 11-05-2008 01:01PM

Matt Lindland has a great attitude to ambiguity in rules when it comes to MMA.

Basically he doesn't see it as the fighters responsibility to obey the rules but rather the referee's/promoters/commissions/judges/doctors/etc to enforce them.

This is coming from Matt "The Law" Lindland.

Cutting weight is not at all cheating. Every fighter on here will have their own personal tricks they use. Drummo and I always wrapped out hands in a unique way, which we thought gave us the edge. Some people ingest something/or smell something before a fight to give them clarity or energy. Fighters have rituals and methods that don't break rules but a certainly unregulated.

As with any competitive sport the full range of possibilities within the letter of the rules will be explored. Training at altitude, hypoxic tents, olympic weightlifting, nutrition, rubber guard, etc.

The thing to remember is your not just fighting one guy, your fighting a whole system, bad refs, slippy floors, bad velcro on your gloves, a guy who is more skilled, has a better team, a team with more knowledge and fight prep craft etc. Once you realise that this is the sport your fighting it becomes much easier to accept what you need to do etc.

Peace

EFR TAZ · 11-05-2008 06:06PM

good post mate, suppose that somes it up!

pre fight weight loss

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