Movies you love/hate that you are supposed to hate/love

L31mr0d · 29-04-2008 08:01PM #1

Ok that title might be a bit confusing...

basically what are the movies that you love but everyone you know, including the critics, hate.

Also what critically acclaimed and universally loved movies do you find boring, drab and overhyped.

For me:

Shouldn't love but I do:

The Condemned
The Marine
Alien vs Predator: Requiem
Bio-Dome

Bored the life out of me:

The Godfather :eek:
Scarface
Pride & Prejudice
Atonement
Dr. Strangelove
The Deer Hunter

keefg · 29-04-2008 08:09PM

I totally agree with you about The Godfather (part 1).......a very dull film about a wedding (mostly) starring the most overrated actor in history.

And 2001 - A Space Odyssey.....another pile of crap.

The Artist · 29-04-2008 08:27PM

L31mr0d posted

For me:

Shouldn't love but I do:

The Condemned
The Marine
Alien vs Predator: Requiem

Bio-Dome?

I havent heard of the that film enlight me:cool:

User45701 · 29-04-2008 09:02PM

i hated saving privite ryan

i cant think of a hated movie that i love, hmm thats going to wreck my head trying to figure that one out...

Wacker · 29-04-2008 10:12PM

There aren't many films that are highly critically acclaimed that I dislike. One of the only ones that springs to mind is The Breakfast Club.
I figure the central theme of the movie is something like: while we are all different from each other, we are all united by oppression. Absolute sh*te in my opinion. The truth is that these adolescents are not oppressed at all; they are just acting like sh*theads. There are no great mysteries to growing up; you just get on with it and rub one out when the hormones get too much.
Plus, the scene where Emilio Estevez's character gets stoned is the single most unrealistic scene in movie history.
If ever anyone tells me that The Breakfast Club deeply moved them, I find myself already thinking that that person is a total idiot. They may subsequently change my mind, but that will be my first impression.

Regarding the OP's choices of movies he didn't like: I didn't bother with Atonement or Pride and Prejudice. Neither The Deer Hunter nor Scarface blew me away, but I liked Dr. Strangelove. The Godfather Part 1 is an incredible film though, and I'd recommend giving it another shot. I watch it every few months and I pick up new, ingenious details every time. It is my third-favourite film.

Pigman II · 29-04-2008 11:59PM

Pan's Labyrinth.

Don't know if I'm actually "supposed" to love it, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it is a total piece of shít.

Pigman II · 30-04-2008 12:12AM

Ran is another one. Painful load of bollix. Almost brings a tear to my eye to think it was directed by Kurosawa.

Bringing Up Baby. "Classic" 30's comedy that's about as funny as toothache

Cabaret and Eraserhead should go on the list also.

johnny_ultimate · 30-04-2008 12:23AM

Wacker wrote: »

There aren't many films that are highly critically acclaimed that I dislike. One of the only ones that springs to mind is The Breakfast Club.
I figure the central theme of the movie is something like: while we are all different from each other, we are all united by oppression. Absolute sh*te in my opinion. The truth is that these adolescents are not oppressed at all; they are just acting like sh*theads. There are no great mysteries to growing up; you just get on with it and rub one out when the hormones get too much.
Plus, the scene where Emilio Estevez's character gets stoned is the single most unrealistic scene in movie history.
If ever anyone tells me that The Breakfast Club deeply moved them, I find myself already thinking that that person is a total idiot. They may subsequently change my mind, but that will be my first impression.

Well said. I thought I was in for an enjoyable watch when I turned it on, but my jaw just started dropping as it got more and more absurd. My main beef with it is that it bears little to no resemblence to teenage reality. When the 'goth' (by far the most interesting character up until that point) had her make over and Estavez fell in love with her, I was shocked: what kind of morals and values was Hughes trying to preach? Doll yourself up and the jocks will fall in love with you? Wow. A film that preaches conformity, and actively discourages any kind of difference and variety. Dreadful film. Amazing it came from the same guy who did the wonderful Ferris Bueller.

But also a Godfather non-fan, mainly due to Brando (mumbling does not a good performance make). Admittedly, I haven't seen it in a while, and will sit through the whole trilogy soon, but was very underwhelmed by it.

Dont be at yourself · 30-04-2008 04:30AM

Another Godfather non-fan. Perhaps because I saw it after the likes of Goodfellas, Casino, Scarface, Donnie Brasco et al, it wasn't as fresh as it would have otherwise been.

Xavi6 · 30-04-2008 04:35AM

Star Wars hater here. Just really can't see the appeal at all, especially the newer ones.

useful_contacts · 30-04-2008 04:48AM

Xavi6 wrote: »

Star Wars hater here. Just really can't see the appeal at all, especially the newer ones.

thank god!!!

its not just me

everytime i say i hate them i get abuse for it

Wacker · 30-04-2008 07:28AM

Xavi6 wrote: »

Star Wars hater here. Just really can't see the appeal at all, especially the newer ones.

I don't think too many people expect you to love the new ones.

Annoying young Anakin wrote: »

I'll try rolling, that's a good trick!

*shudders at the memory*

Bubs101 · 30-04-2008 09:15AM

Shouldn't love but I do:

All 3 resident evils, both Aliens vs. Predator movies and the killer, Wild Wild West. Hard to say how funny I thought it was

Decuc500 · 30-04-2008 10:11AM

I can't understand how The Shawshank Redemption always tops voting poles. I quite enjoyed it but that's about it. It ain't a classic.

I also hate critics favourite Cache. It's a horrible, manipulative, pretentious and boring little film.

L31mr0d · 30-04-2008 10:33AM

I didn't like Juno :eek:

I felt its another sign that america is doing to indie movies whats its already done to every other genre of movies.. i.e. making them painfully predictable.

Also I HATE with a passion how all indie movies have to use acoustic guitar music as the score. ENOUGH ALREADY WE GET IT YOUR MOVIE IS COOL/HIP/<insert other buzzword used ad nauseum>

Vic Vinegar · 30-04-2008 10:56AM

Agreed on Deerhunter! soooo boring.

AVP2 however was the biggest pile of crap i ever did see, shame on you!

BlitzKrieg · 30-04-2008 12:16PM

keeping with the alien theme.

Alien 3 is usually lambasted as the point the franchise made a sharp decline.

but I love Alien 3 and Resurrection.

the series went downhil with Alien vs Predator

and reached an all time low with avp2.

Vic Vinegar · 30-04-2008 12:42PM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Alien 3 is usually lambasted as the point the franchise made a sharp decline.

but I love Alien 3 and Resurrection.

Yep, i'm the same, both are class imo! especially the special edition directors cuts!

L31mr0d · 30-04-2008 12:47PM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

the series went downhil with Alien vs Predator

and reached an all time low with avp2.

see that's where I think views differ. I don't view AvP as being in canon with either the Predator or Alien movies, its a series unto itself.

I watch an AvP movie the same way i'd watch any zombie/monster movie. I'm not expecting any deep storyline. For AvP all I wanted was Aliens fighting Predators with plenty of human fodder to fill the gaps. On this front I think AvP2 succeeded.

If you are looking for a prologue/epilogue to the Alien or Predator series then you aren't going to get it. But if you view AvP as merely a spiritual sequel and are also a fan of cheesy monster movies then they won't disappoint.

BlitzKrieg · 30-04-2008 01:15PM

I don't view AvP as being in canon with either the Predator or Alien movies, its a series unto itself.

I'm in two minds about this

1. its like you said a series unto itself, in which case, the goals of this *new* series brainless fun and frolic ala a zombie/monster movie, in which case the first film failed miserable because its an impotent lifeless corpse with its only claim to brainless fun being the alien rex they have at the end. Otherwise its rubbish like all of paul w.s andersons other films because he is too much of a *safe* director.

The second film is even more rubbish because the vast majority of the brainless fun is very badly put together, both from a technical perspective and from a simple pacing issue. None of the characters are appealing (which is surprisingly a very important factor in brainless fun...see Evil Dead for reference) and the monsters had none of that *awesome* factor.

Thats is if I try try try to put the films far from the alien franchise.

But

that fails because

2. The first film tried really really really hard to fit itself with the alien franchise, and did it in such stupid cringeworthy ways, then after very boldy claiming its definitive link it went on to ignore canon established by the franchise. Aside from that its a very dull film but from a franchise perspective it can get the nod of *trying* The sequel *whistle* declares its link with the franchise by directly following the first avp. But it shamefully sneaks in with some horrible links to the prior films (the yutani bit at the end was woeful.)

Now if you told me to look at them as continuations of the predator franchise...then yeah the first film is still crap but the second...gets a meh.

But if you view AvP as merely a spiritual sequel and are also a fan of cheesy monster movies then they won't disappoint.

a) It has nothing in *spirit* with the original films so even as a spiritual sequel it deserves a severe grilling.

b) I am a huge cheesy monster movie fan, I love watching them but both films still very much disapoint, they are just simply bad films.

To keep things on topic 2 other films that are really bad but i still like watching them:

Predator 2
Godzilla (U.S remake, yes its atrocious but its like watching ferris bueller's day off with a big freaking dinosaur, and as a *spiritual* remake its horrible beyond words, I just like Mathew Broderick and jean reno)

The Artist · 30-04-2008 01:41PM

Snatch is my all time favourite and any vinny jones films.
I cant stand romance films as it makes me zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!And hate any austin powers films they are so stupid imo.
The green mile and the shawshank redemption is 10/10;)

lorweld · 30-04-2008 01:45PM

I hated Lord of the Rings!!! There I said it....................:eek::eek::eek:

Pigman II · 30-04-2008 01:46PM

I love Gone in 60 seconds (not the original , the crappy Nic Cage remake).

The Artist · 30-04-2008 01:47PM

lorweld wrote: »

I hated Lord of the Rings!!! There I said it....................:eek::eek::eek:

Ahh my PRECIOUS! is my sig bothering you?:p:)

lorweld · 30-04-2008 01:49PM

davey180 wrote: »

Ahh my PRECIOUS! is my sig bothering you?:p:)

Yeah kinda! but in fairness he was the only bit of entertainment in the triology!:p

Sherifu · 30-04-2008 01:51PM

Didn't like Transporter 2. Liked the first one.

The Artist · 30-04-2008 01:51PM

lorweld wrote: »

Yeah kinda! but in fairness he was the only bit of entertainment in the triology!:p

glad you like golem at least:D

Goodshape · 30-04-2008 01:53PM

Hate is a strong word, but The Usual Suspects and The Shawshank Redemption aren't really anything special.

L31mr0d wrote: »

I didn't like Juno :eek:

And oh yeah, Juno. I think I really did hate that one.

Juno Screenplay. If it were 10 times shorter and 100 times more honest.

faceman · 30-04-2008 04:19PM

Boo on all your anti Godfather people, philistines!!!

The youth of today dont understand pacing.

I agree with blitzkrieg and some of the rest of you on Alien 3 and Resurrection, I enjoyed them. Alien 3 being the superior

I like Best of the best, despite the fact its crap. You just cant beat aul eric roberts melodramatic performances (Pope of greenwich village being the highlight!)

I also like The prophecy which i shouldnt but Walken is the MAN in that flick and Viggo is the best devil ive seen in a film.

Im not keen on Usual Suspects, Spiderman or Superman Returns.

The Bollox · 30-04-2008 04:33PM

I don't see the appeal of Scarface. I love ganster films like Goodfellas, The Godfather, Heat, Casino, Carlito's Way etc... but Scarface is dreadful. they could have done a much better job on it.

I completly dissagree with the people who think 2001 is a pile of crap. it's artsy but it's brilliant. they used ingenious special effects. special effects that make you think and not just say "oh yeah, cgi, great"

the floating pen is an example of the ingenious special effects. todays effects wizards wouldn't be able to think of it even though it is so simplistic (the pen is taped to a pane of glass) and it looks amazing

monkeyfudge · 30-04-2008 05:00PM

I too dislike the Godfather films and mafia films in general.

I do love Josie and Pussycats the Movie though...

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