Worlds best 11 post 1994 World Cup

DerekD Goldfish · 24-04-2008 04:26PM

spiderdan wrote: »

Left winger- I found it the hardest position- no one really stood out- I went for Messi as he has that bit of magic in him, we could/ probably will be talking about him being an all time great!

Anyone disagree that Zidane is by far the greatest of his generation??

I never really liked Zidane im not saying he wasnt a great player just I dont think he deserves the position of undisputed greatest player of the past 15 years he has gained.
Ive done a 1st/2nd choice
Assuming 94 ability on otherwise Baresi and McGrath would have made it
Gk: Schmeichel/Buffon
DL: Maldini /Irwin
DR:Thuram/Cafu
DC:Nesta/Desailly
DC:Adams/Daragh Maguire
ML:Nedved/Overmars
Mr:Figo/Mababazi
CM: Keane/Osam
Am:Rivaldo/Boban
CF:Shevchenko/Shearer
CF:Ronaldo/Battistuta

DerekD Goldfish · 24-04-2008 04:28PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Was the bergkamp against argentina goal the long ball one where he controlled it oh so sexually?

Thats the one

Surprised so few mentions of overmars he was fantastic in the 90's

DSB · 24-04-2008 04:53PM

Schmeichel

Cafu
Maldini
McGrath
Cannavaro

Cristiano Ronaldo
Zidane
Vieira
Giggs

Ronaldo
Henry

Bubs101 · 24-04-2008 05:46PM

Buffon

Zanetti
Maldini
Desailly
Cannavaro

Figo
Deschamps
Totti
Nedved

Ronaldo
Batistuta

Went for Totti ahead of Zidane because Zizou was so inconsistent in Serie A. As a Juve fan I would get so frustrated with him. Totti performs week in week out

tdv · 24-04-2008 06:14PM

Going for the aul wing back/sweeper formation

.............................Buffon.............................

.........Costacurta........Baresi............Maldini.....

Cafu....................................................R.Carlos
.............................Redonado......................

..............Zidane.....................Hagi...............

.................Ronaldo............Romario...............

Subs:
Ayala
Albertini
Riquelme
Serginho
Batistuta

PHB · 24-04-2008 06:23PM

Schmeichel

Irwin Baresi Nesta Maldini

Figo Zidane Keane Ronaldinho

Ronaldo Bergkamp

For me, Irwin has to go in there. I think Maldini has been the better LB, but imo Irwin was better than Cafu.
I think Cannavaro is somewhat overrated, i.e. still amazing but not quite up there with say Nesta or Baresi.
Keane for me has to go in there too. He was the captain of the team that dominated the premiership for almost a decade.
Figo Ronaldo and Ronaldinho (at his heights 2 years ago, he was unstoppable. That hattrick against Real Madrid was just amazing) are obvious.
Then of course there is Bergkamp, what an amazing player. Rivaldo was something special, but Bergkamp was just amazing.

Then of course there is only one captain, Zidane.

Bounty Hunter · 24-04-2008 07:49PM

Schmeichel

Cafu      Baresi         Maldini       R.Carlos

                      Keane 

       Figo         Zidane        Rivaldo

           Ronaldo             Weah

Subs:

Buffon
L.Matthaus
Nesta
Desailly.... think a lot of people forget how great a DM he was also
Rijkaard
Hagi
Baggio

McGrath would have made it (Paul McGrath my lord Paul McGrath) but for the post 94 part

Bubs101 · 24-04-2008 08:08PM

Does anyone think that Larsonn is a bit unfortunate to be overlooked here. I know he spent most of his time playing in a sub standard league but when he moved he won 1 (maybe 2) la Ligas, a Champions League and a Premiership.

Seaneh · 24-04-2008 08:18PM

Buffon

Cafu

Nesta----Desailly

Maldini

Figo

Zidane

Redondo

Giggs

Ronaldo

Shevchenko

Reasons;

Buffon is, IMHO the best 'keeper of all time.

Cafu, Argueably the best Brazilian captian of all time, easily the best right full of the last 20 years.

Nesta, Some will put Cannavaro ahead of them, I reckon they are insane, Nesta is as close to the perfect CB you'll ever get.

Desailly, The Rock, nick name says it all.

Maldini, Paolo is the only player currently playing who you can argue is possibly the best player of ALL TIME, his contribution to world football is immeasureable.

Figo, no other choice for right wing really...

Zidane, Anyone who argues his inclusion is, simply put, a fool.

Redondo, I'ce said it before, I'll say it again, best DM of the last 20 years, the absolute complete midfeilder, had everything and then some.

Giggs, Suprised myself when I thought of him, but really, he was the best left winger in the world from the age of 18 till about 29, and he's still not too bad...

Ronaldo, possibly the greatest finnisher of all time, easily the best striker of his generation.

Sheva, STFU, yeah he's been ****e at chelase, but he's also smashed just about every goalscoring record in club football, man is a f*cking legend.

Subs:
Schmeical (Buffon juts shades it for me).
Costacurta (Never made mistakes, EVER!).
Thuram (IMHO the Arch Typical Modern Centre back).
Albertini (The Origional Pirlo/Xavi type player).
Boban (said it before, say it again, my altime Fav player to watch, so intelligent on the ball).
Baggio (The epithomy of number 10, best "second Striker" ever).
Weah (3 time African player of the year, world player of the year, European player of the year, Serie A player of the year, Serie A top scorer, Champions league top scorer, French Championship top scorer, Serie A foreign player of the year... the list goes on).

Honurable mentions;

Keane, he was damned good, I'll admit it.

Totti, Baggio just shaded him for the bench spot.

Rivaldo, he was immense when he bothered his arse.

Cannavaro, Nesta is better and always was.

Seaneh · 24-04-2008 08:19PM

Bubs101 wrote: »

Does anyone think that Larsonn is a bit unfortunate to be overlooked here. I know he spent most of his time playing in a sub standard league but when he moved he won 1 (maybe 2) la Ligas, a Champions League and a Premiership.

You're joking right?

Bounty Hunter · 24-04-2008 08:20PM

Bubs101 wrote: »

Does anyone think that Larsonn is a bit unfortunate to be overlooked here. I know he spent most of his time playing in a sub standard league but when he moved he won 1 (maybe 2) la Ligas, a Champions League and a Premiership.

there are simply too many World class forwards over this time period. Larson may get in one or two peoples teams but ahead of Ronaldo, Batistuta, Baggio, Stoichkov, Rivaldo, Weah or even Van Basten he will struggle IMO. still surprised that this is the first mention he has got

PHB · 24-04-2008 08:26PM

Look, Van Nist and Henry have barely made peoples lists at all. Larsson has no chance and rightly so.

estebancambias · 24-04-2008 08:30PM

Ok mine is.

Buffon

Zambrotta Cannavaro Helguera Maldini

Redondo Keane

Messi Zidane Riquelme

Raul

*Probably not the best but meh*

kinaldo · 24-04-2008 08:34PM

Almost impossible to pick the best but I'd definitely have Raul and Redondo in there. Rivaldo wasn't good enough for long enough for me. And I do remember watching him at Deportivo. I think it was around 1999 that a poll in a Catalan newspaper had Barca fans voting Raul as the best player in Spain ahead of Rivaldo. I remember reading that in World Soccer Magazine at the time. He also pipped Rivaldo to the Pichichi that year (Golden Boot). In 2002 Sir Alex Ferguson was calling Raul the best player in the world. Since he burst onto the scene in 94 he's probably been the most consistent forward in Europe, much more so than Rivaldo. Perhaps if he was Brazilian he would get the credit he should be getting.

_blank_ · 24-04-2008 09:55PM

Baresi in some people's teams?

He was playing way before the '94WC surely.

A legend no doubt, but I don't think he should be considered here tbh.

eZe^ · 24-04-2008 10:09PM

PHB wrote: »

Ronaldinho (at his heights 2 years ago, he was unstoppable. That hattrick against Real Madrid was just amazing) are obvious..

If you're thinking of the game in the Burnacow, where Ronnie got a standing ovation, he scored two that night, Etoo scored the other. Or maybe you're thinking of Messi's hattrick last year?

My team;

Kahn

--Cafu

Hierro

Nesta

Maldini----

Makalele

----Figo

Zidane

Guardiola

Romario

Ronaldo

Guardiola is my favourite player of all time, so I had to put him in there.

There is way way way too much Madrid there for my liking, and I left out Figo and Roberto Carlos. Jaysus... Carlos is only missing because of Maldini, I was considering putting him on the right instead of Cafu.

Cant believe nobody mentioned Hierro yet, 5 La Liga's, 3 CL's and 102 goals in 439 league games. Not bad for a bloody defender.

estebancambias wrote: »

Ok mine is.

Buffon

Zambrotta Cannavaro Helguera Maldini

Redondo Keane

Messi Zidane Riquelme

Raul

Raul is **** upfront as a 9.

CCCP^ · 24-04-2008 10:44PM

Where the **** is Terry Phelan?

PHB · 24-04-2008 11:04PM

A legend no doubt, but I don't think he should be considered here tbh.

I remember seeing him play when I was still like 12, so he must have went on till around 98ish?

If you're thinking of the game in the Burnacow, where Ronnie got a standing ovation, he scored two that night, Etoo scored the other. Or maybe you're thinking of Messi's hattrick last year?

No, it was the 2 goals one. Thought it was a hattrick. That's why I love some sets of football fans. It takes real lovers of the beautiful game to applaud the performance of an opponent who just ripped them to shreds.

Guy:Incognito · 24-04-2008 11:16PM

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

20 posts and no mention of Le Tissier. You all make me sick. I'm off to the pub.

Beasent

Walcott

Benali

Le Tiss

Surman

Hows that for a start? I'll let you fill in the rest. After all, it's your delusion.

CCCP^ wrote: »

Where the **** is Terry Phelan?

Where he belongs.

Seaneh · 24-04-2008 11:16PM

Baresi retired fro international footie after the 94 world cup and from professional footie at the end of the 96/97 season, and those were easily his 3 most forgettable seasons as a Milan player. so from 94 on wards, he was not deserving of being in any of these teams, and I'm Rossonero...

PHB · 24-04-2008 11:45PM

Fair enough

I just remember seeing him play and he was amazing

I shall take him out, but I'm unsure who to put in in his stead.

I don't think Cannavaro is that amazing. He only joined Inter at the age of 29, didn't win much, then went to Juve, where he won 2 leagues which were bought. Then he went to Madrid and has been crap. The one thing that puts him up there was his amazing performance in a world cup winning side, but imo that isn't enough to put him ahead of other defenders.

Hierro is a pretty good bet to be honest. 5 league titles and 3 CL's is just an amazing feat. I'm going to throw out a bit of an oddball here, but Sol Campbell could but a good bet to. He was an amazing defender not just for Arsenal, but for England aswell when he was constantly their best defender.

If I was changing my team, I utterly forgot about Raul, one of my favorite players, I'd pop him in ahead of the great dutchman, but only just.

Attractive Nun · 25-04-2008 12:23AM

Buffon

Cafu---Nesta---Hierro---Maldini

Keane---Redondo

Zidane

----Messi

Ronaldinho---

Ronaldo

Fair enough, Messi has much to prove and he might well be made of glass, but when he gets the ball you can but hold your breath and watch. That's what makes an attacking great IMO and all four of that front 4 had that ability at their peak. Ronaldo is the best striker I've ever seen, watching clips from that season he had at Barca is just a joy. Ronaldinho too, for the two or three seasons when he was the best player on earth, could do things no other player in history was able to do - unbelievable stuff. Zidane is the best player of his generation and quite possibly the best of all time IMO.

Cafu and Maldini pick themselves, but tbh I only started paying enough attention to football recently to be able to pick the centre backs, so I dunno about them really. Buffon is pure class - though I expect if you ask me in 5 years time Casillas will be ahead of him, absolutely wonderful keeper.

ironingbored · 25-04-2008 12:23AM

Bubs101 wrote: »

Buffon

Went for Totti ahead of Zidane because Zizou was so inconsistent in Serie A. As a Juve fan I would get so frustrated with him. Totti performs week in week out

You cannot be a Juve fan if you've left out Alessandro Del Piero. Shame on you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNVxpMUUnB8&feature=related

One of the greatest goals ever scored.

ironingbored · 25-04-2008 12:26AM

PHB wrote: »

For me, Irwin has to go in there. I think Maldini has been the better LB, but imo Irwin was better than Cafu.
I think Cannavaro is somewhat overrated, i.e. still amazing but not quite up there with say Nesta or Baresi.

You managed to include to pearlers here.

Cannavaro not up there with Nesta?

Irwin in a world eleven? You are having a laugh.

kinaldo · 25-04-2008 12:38AM

Schmeichael

Roberto Carlos
Hierro
Desailly
Cafu

Giggs
Redondo
Zidane
Beckham

Raul
Ronaldo

I've even managed to leave favourites like Shearer, Ginola and Luis Enrique out! No fücking team would come close to beating that group of players!!!

On the bench,

Casillas
Batistuta
Nesta
Keane
Henry

Rivaldo, Ronaldinho and one or two others were just unlucky or too lazy. Enrique should probably be on the bench as he could play literally any outfield position and look world class.

Edit: forgot about Figo, have him ahead of Becks or Giggs.

ironingbored · 25-04-2008 12:39AM

Buffon

Tassotti
Hierro
Costacurta
Maldini

Nedved
Zidane
Desailly
Boban

Del Piero
Raul

eZe^ · 25-04-2008 12:46AM

Hierro band wagon jumpers.

:p:p:p

Boggles · 25-04-2008 12:47AM

People putting Messi into there teams, need a stern talking to. Maybe when ye are playing this game in 5 years time he might make in.

kinaldo · 25-04-2008 12:48AM

eZe^ wrote: »

Hierro band wagon jumpers. :p:p:p

The "Spanish Baresi" according to Capello. And a hero of mine ever since Euro 96. Passing, shooting, heading, timing, awareness, composure, leadership etc. all outstanding. Discipline was erratic. Most booked player in La Liga history.

eZe^ · 25-04-2008 12:54AM

kinaldo wrote: »

The "Spanish Baresi" according to Capello. And a hero of mine ever since Euro 96.

Im just saying, nowhere to be seen for 4 pages, and then poof he has a 100% record once I mention him. Hahaha, no seriously though, there was NEVER a centre back who had as much talent on the ball, his passes were Riquelme esque at times, I absolutely hated him, but he was just so so good. I mean, 100 goals in 450 games in the league is ridiculous for a defender, as well as 30 in 90 for Spain.

Luis Enrique is a great shout actually. I saw someone with a lovely formation on the previous page and I just might have to knick it off them...

The rapidly disappearing 3-5-2 formation.

Worlds best 11 post 1994 World Cup

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