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Liverpool vs. Chelsea (1st Leg)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    I see this being a score draw which would be a huge advantage to Chelsea. Both times Liverpool knocked Chelsea out the second leg was played in Anfield. I personally do think playing your first leg away is better as you can either choose to set up shop and play for a counter attack away goal knowing you still have your home leg as back up for anything that went wrong or to compound an already great position. That's why I see Chelsea winning the tie this time round.

    Interesting, in only that I don't think Chelsea have ever scored a goal in a Champions League game at Anfield (excluding penalty shoot-outs).

    I'm not that confident about qualifying over the two legs though, I do see Liverpool winning tonight, but unless they get at least a 2-0 or a 3-1, I don't see them going through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Chelsea
    prendy wrote: »
    interesting!!!:D

    pool deffo wont beat man u in Munich this year!!

    Deisedevil i hope you havnt booked your flights!

    Ahhhhhhh, crap crap crap. Was looking at article bout Munich disaster and then typed it in by mistake. Oh the embarrasment.

    Follow, follow, follow, cause Utd are going to MOSCOW!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    Both times Liverpool knocked Chelsea out the second leg was played in Anfield. I personally do think playing your first leg away is better as you can either choose to set up shop and play for a counter attack away goal knowing you still have your home leg as back up for anything that went wrong or to compound an already great position. That's why I see Chelsea winning the tie this time round.

    While it is shown that playing the second leg at home is an adavantage, its also shown that Liverpool have the best away record of the surviving teams, indeed one only has to remember Juventus and Inter ties both of which were played the "wrong way round".

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,474 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    The Law of averages also said we should have beaten Utd in the League under Rafa....maybe its building up for something more?
    Besides, Chelsea have had their luck with that Finnan penalty that wasnt.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,936 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    mike65 wrote: »
    While it is shown that playing the second leg at home is an adavantage, its also shown that Liverpool have the best away record of the surviving teams, indeed one only has to remember Juventus and Inter ties both of which were played the "wrong way round".

    Mike.

    Liverpool's CL record is like the Ronaldo bashing, no matter what they do, there'll be something that they didn't which people use as a stick to beat them with. Beating Chelsea(English team) over two legs with the second tie being away should shut people up about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Draw
    i can see Liverpool being the better team on the night but their luck in the CL finally running out and Chelsea jamming it, by a Joe Cole deflected shot stuck possibly!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    astrofool wrote: »
    . Beating Chelsea(English team) over two legs with the second tie being away should shut people up about it.

    The opposite will happen. Most Man Utd and Chelsea fans don't care about Livepool's champions league record. We care about the Premiership, the league, the thing you have to be consistent in to win (sorry to be so insistent but Liverpool fans might have forgotten what the Premiership is) but whenever we are talking about that Liverpool fans constantly bring up their jammyness in the Champions league. I'd be perfectly happy to never talk about that competition to a Liverpool fan again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    Bubs101 wrote: »
    The opposite will happen. Most Man Utd and Chelsea fans don't care about Livepool's champions league record. We care about the Premiership, the league, the thing you have to be consistent in to win (sorry to be so insistent but Liverpool fans might have forgotten what the Premiership is) but whenever we are talking about that Liverpool fans constantly bring up their jammyness in the Champions league. I'd be perfectly happy to never talk about that competition to a Liverpool fan again

    emmmm, Utd fans do care about the CL and our CL record, they sing about it every week at old trafford for crying out loud! :)

    and as for Chelsea?! ask Jose and Roman if Chelsea care about the CL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,692 ✭✭✭Loomis


    Liverpool (Liverpool fans)
    mike65 wrote: »
    While it is shown that playing the second leg at home is an adavantage, its also shown that Liverpool have the best away record of the surviving teams, indeed one only has to remember Juventus and Inter ties both of which were played the "wrong way round".

    Mike.
    Honestly I'd discount the Inter tie because the ref screwed the pooch both times. But that's a different debate and there's no point going into it on this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    Chelsea
    Bubs101 wrote: »
    The opposite will happen. Most Man Utd and Chelsea fans don't care about Livepool's champions league record. We care about the Premiership, the league, the thing you have to be consistent in to win (sorry to be so insistent but Liverpool fans might have forgotten what the Premiership is) but whenever we are talking about that Liverpool fans constantly bring up their jammyness in the Champions league. I'd be perfectly happy to never talk about that competition to a Liverpool fan again

    Stop trolling for crying out loud.
    Jammyness in the CL?
    Lets be children so......
    United robbed a CL in 5 mins from a team that dominated them, hows that for jammyness.
    My playstation is better than your xbox....
    My dog is better than your dog :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭redspider


    So, the build-up has begun for what will be a pivotal game for Liverpool this season.

    There's always plenty of discussion over the advantages and disadvantages of playing the 1st leg at home or otherwise. But its small differences really and doesnt really make a difference in the grand scheme of things. Liverpool know that a goal tonight is needed. Indeed: 2-0 is better than 1-0 and is better than 0-0. The only slight advantage perhaps at playing the 2nd leg at home is when it goes to penalties. That may affect some players concentration and their legs may go to jelly. But that's if it goes to penalties and then its only a but, as home players can be equally affected by penalty pressure.

    Yes, Chelsea will line up defensively and look to their fast men (SWP) for attacks on the break. Liverpool will need to be careful at the back. It could be a 0-0 of course but I would expect a goal at some stage tonight. One thing about Liverpool, they do need to be very very careful if they go 1-0 up. Players tend to lose concentration, and giving a goal away at home could determine the tie.

    > I suspect both managers would take a 0-0 now.

    I dont think so. I dont think Rafa would take that at all. Its hard to rely on an away goal to go through with a 1-1 or something. Rafa will, I think, be aiming for a 1-0 or a 2-0. Chelsea will be looking to exploit dead ball situations, with Reina's (and Liverpools) dodgy handling of crosses and they will be getting the likes of Terry, Carvalho and Drogba in the box.

    anything could happen really ..... Liverpool' mindset will be good though. Chelsea are still 'hurting' from their previous losses. Liverpool are in a way Chelsea's bogie team, so lets exploit that to the full, take them on tonight with energy and get the one or 2 goals. I think 2-0 would leave us with one foot in gthe final, although everyone knows that it would still be only half-time.

    Meanwhile, there will be a small bit of a side-show in the ownership battle as to who turns up in the directors box. Gillet's son will be there, he is apparently ill. DIC will be Gillet's guests. Parry and Moores, who are side by side at all Liverpools matches, will be there. Hicks said he would be there, but may not show. He may send a representative.

    But none of the players or Rafa will be looking up at the directors box. They have a job to do and are focussed.

    8 hrs and 45 mins to go .....

    Redspider


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Prufrock


    Liverpool (Liverpool fans)
    I'm not sure. I'd lean tword Liverpool but I'm saying a draw. Too tight to call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭lpool2k05


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    If it is 0-0 tonight,chelsea will fear liverpool scoring at stamford bridge like we feared for our lives chelsea scoring an away goal the previous two times!!There is nothing more frightening or silencing than an away goal,especially in the second leg!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭WellyJ


    Chelsea
    shane86 wrote: »
    Chelsea are on the slide. Only advantage they have is pt 2 being at home.

    I call

    Liverpool 2-0 at home

    Away 1-1 or 1-0 to Chelsea. Pool take it on penos

    Penalties?

    What??


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Chelsea
    a win of any sort with chelsea not scoring is my biggest want i'm gonna guess/hope 2-0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭lisbon_lions


    Chelsea
    The 2nd leg being at the bridge and not anfield will go against Liverpool I reckon. Liverpool are always a formidable force in the 2nd leg knowing what they have to do in front of the vocal support. They might come a cropper at the bridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,171 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    The 2nd leg being at the bridge and not anfield will go against Liverpool I reckon. Liverpool are always a formidable force in the 2nd leg knowing what they have to do in front of the vocal support. They might come a cropper at the bridge.

    Alternatively, I don't think Liverpool have lost a 2 legged tie in Europe where they played away for the second leg since Rafa arrived at the club. The only one he's lost in total has been Benfica and the second leg then was at Anfield.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    All this talk of us being in trouble because we have to go to SB next week is hilarious. I wonder how many little flags Roman will put under the chairs to try and create an atmosphere at that place. Its worse than Highbury ever was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,169 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    The 2nd leg being at the bridge and not anfield will go against Liverpool I reckon. Liverpool are always a formidable force in the 2nd leg knowing what they have to do in front of the vocal support. They might come a cropper at the bridge.

    Here is the last 3 times Liverpool have had the 2nd leg away from home

    2005 after beating Bayer Leverkusen 3-1 at Anfield we were going to get put out in Germany as Bayer Leverkusen had won all there home group games 3-0, what was the score oh yea 3-1 to Liverpool

    Again 2005 beat Juve 2-1 at home we were going to get stuffed in Italy, again score was 0-0 with Milan Baros having the best chance to score and Liverpool having a very weakened team.

    2008 beat Inter 2-0 at home going to go to Italy and get stuffed again but if my memory serves me right only goal scorer in the San Siro that night was Fernando Torres.

    Liverpool tonight will fly out of the traps like they did in those 3 games to get the 1st goal.

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭yom 1


    mayordenis wrote: »
    a win of any sort with chelsea not scoring is my biggest want i'm gonna guess/hope 2-0

    +1

    Exactly my feelings on the game. COME ON YOU REDMEN!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    Chelsea
    Melion wrote: »
    All this talk of us being in trouble because we have to go to SB next week is hilarious. I wonder how many little flags Roman will put under the chairs to try and create an atmosphere at that place. Its worse than Highbury ever was.

    Maybe so but when was the last time anyone beat Chelsea at home?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Draw
    Personally I want Chelsea to win as more often than not I think they are easier on the eye than Liverpool.

    However, I would love to see a Manchester United vs Liverpool final.

    I'm a neutral by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,171 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    IrishMike wrote: »
    Maybe so but when was the last time anyone beat Chelsea at home?

    thats all well and good but we have to lose at home for that to be an issue, so lets worry about it one step at a time. Each time we've played at home first, we've taken a lead into the second leg. Lets just wait and see what happens tonight before getting overly concerned with next week. Id be confident of us being able to get a draw at the bridge.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Draw
    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    thats all well and good but we have to lose at home for that to be an issue, so lets worry about it one step at a time. Each time we've played at home first, we've taken a lead into the second leg. Lets just wait and see what happens tonight before getting overly concerned with next week. Id be confident of us being able to get a draw at the bridge.

    You don't have to lose at Anfield, just have a score draw.

    Chelsea will happily play out a 0-0 at Stamford Bridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    Gerrard On Tonight:

    "Our fans will give us a massive advantage again because there is not many places in the world that have as intimidating atmosphere as Anfield and have such an effect on visiting teams-and thats a fact. Stamford Bridge is a big stadium but its got nothing of the aura that Anfield has and it ceertainly wont intimidate us in the slightest during the second leg".

    well in stevie lad, especially like the FACT bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,171 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    You don't have to lose at Anfield, just have a score draw.

    Chelsea will happily play out a 0-0 at Stamford Bridge.

    I said to have to win at the bridge we would have to lose tonight. which is the case. A score draw tonight means an equal or higher score draw at the bridge is enough for at least penalties. The ONLY way we NEED to win at the bridge is by losing tonight.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,169 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Personally I want Chelsea to win as more often than not I think they are easier on the eye than Liverpool.

    However, I would love to see a Manchester United vs Liverpool final.

    I'm a neutral by the way.


    What games have you been watching? The last 4 Chelsea games have been dire even their own fans booed them off the pitch when winning

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,142 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Draw
    What games have you been watching? The last 4 Chelsea games have been dire even their own fans booed them off the pitch when winning

    You seemed to disregard the "more often than not" part of my post.

    Liverpool are consistently boring to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Chelsea (Chelsea fans)
    I cant honestly believe that someone would think Chelsea were better than Liverpool to watch this season.

    Chopperbyrne; who do you support? Not supporting Chelsea or Liverpool does not automatically make you a neutral.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,169 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Liverpool for such a boring team have scored the most goals this season.

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