Can Abortion be Art?

Pythia · 18-04-2008 10:21PM #1

An American art student, Aliza Shvarts, has done a piece in which she purposefully gets herself pregnant then purposefully miscarries using abortificants. She films the miscarriages and also keeps some of the blood.

She describes it best herself:

For the past year, I performed repeated self-induced miscarriages. I created a group of fabricators from volunteers who submitted to periodic STD screenings and agreed to their complete and permanent anonymity. From the 9th to the 15th day of my menstrual cycle, the fabricators would provide me with sperm samples, which I used to privately self-inseminate. Using a needleless syringe, I would inject the sperm near my cervix within 30 minutes of its collection, so as to insure the possibility of fertilization. On the 28th day of my cycle, I would ingest an abortifacient, after which I would experience cramps and heavy bleeding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliza_Shvarts

Personally I think this is unbelievably sick.

Opinions?

AlmightyCushion · 18-04-2008 10:23PM

What the fúck? That's just messed up.

Huggles · 18-04-2008 10:23PM

Pythia wrote: »

An American Art, Aliza Shvarts, student has done a piece in which she purposefully gets herself pregnant then purposefully miscarries using abortificants. She films the miscarriages and also keeps some of the blood.

She describes it best herself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliza_Shvarts

Personally I think this is unbelievably sick.

Opinions?

I actually almost threw up.

AlmightyCushion · 18-04-2008 10:24PM

Huggles wrote: »

I actually almost threw up.

You should keep that, it could be considered art.

MizzLolly · 18-04-2008 10:25PM

Pythia wrote: »

An American Art, Aliza Shvarts, student has done a piece in which she purposefully gets herself pregnant then purposefully miscarries using abortificants. She films the miscarriages and also keeps some of the blood.

She describes it best herself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliza_Shvarts

Personally I think this is unbelievably sick.

Opinions?

Oh my God! That's disgusting, the twisted bi*ch!!

Genghiz Cohen · 18-04-2008 10:26PM

Freak....

bronte · 18-04-2008 10:26PM

Pretty fcuked up alright.

Huggles · 18-04-2008 10:27PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

You should keep that, it could be considered art.

LOL

takola · 18-04-2008 10:28PM

It's horrible.

What was the point?

Mint Sauce · 18-04-2008 10:28PM

i feel sick just reading the thread about it, thats just twisted

Gordon · 18-04-2008 10:30PM

I blame the Turner Prize.

How many abortions did she cause on herself? She's seriously hindering her chances of giving birth in the future by doing so.

Dudess · 18-04-2008 10:30PM

I lolled. I think pretentiousness is funny.

Thrill · 18-04-2008 10:32PM

That twisted. She must have a few screws loose to be doing stuff like that.

Mr. Presentable · 18-04-2008 10:33PM

No. But as you demonstrated, Art can be an abortion.

KnifeWRENCH · 18-04-2008 10:33PM

Meh! Anything counts as art these days.
There is probably someone out there willing to pay a lot of money for the contents of your septic tank.

Tha Gopher · 18-04-2008 10:33PM

Gordon wrote: »

She's seriously hindering her chances of giving birth in the future by doing so.

Probably for the best tbh. Kid is nearly better off not existing than raised by this nut.

NoQuarter · 18-04-2008 10:34PM

18-04-2008 10:35PM

Does this mean that if a rapist records his attack he can claim it as a performance art piece?

gsxr1 · 18-04-2008 10:38PM

im scarred to click the links in case I see a dead baby, which would completely ruin my evening.

Is that what the link is?

WoollyRedHat · 18-04-2008 10:39PM

:http://www.yale.edu/opa/

Was a hoax, thankfully :eek

TerrorFirmer · 18-04-2008 10:40PM

Anything can be classed as Art these days, accidentally knock over a palette onto a canvas and it could be a mess or worth 1,000,000 depending on what way the light catches it. Sick though...that is really plain disgusting. I wouldn't normally be one to judge someone on their actions or choices involving their own body, but...

Thrill · 18-04-2008 10:40PM

I don't know how it could be classed as art.

This is what you call art.

/Drools pretentiously.

TerrorFirmer · 18-04-2008 10:46PM

Thrill wrote: »

I don't know how it could be classed as art.

This is what you call art.

/Drools pretentiously.

I like how the subtle tones of the rough, yet stalwart brick suggest an emotive personification of communism; the subsequent contrast with the gray, institutional and implied capitalist floor ultimately insinuates an eloquent return to the Cold War

Or maybe it's just a brick on the floor.

slightly lost · 18-04-2008 10:55PM

Dudess wrote: »

Wo... that's uncalled for.

What

ever.

Just my take on it. Apologies if it is close to the bone.

MizzLolly · 18-04-2008 10:59PM

I'm an Art History student and I can honestly say that modern artists really take the biscuit sometimes but I have never, ever seen anything this bad. I really don't see the humour in it.

Does anybody know anything about the men who's sperm she uses? Like, do they know about it?

NoQuarter · 18-04-2008 11:03PM

dudess please stay on topic!

/end back-seat modding :eek:

Thrill · 18-04-2008 11:05PM

MizzLolly wrote:

I'm an Art History student and I can honestly say that modern artists really take the biscuit sometimes but I have never, ever seen anything this bad. I really don't see the humour in it.

Does anybody know anything about the men who's sperm she uses? Like, do they know about it?

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

:http://www.yale.edu/opa/

Was a hoax, thankfully :eek

It was a hoax or a misunderstanding, thank goodness. Click the link in the quoted post and read the short article.

MizzLolly · 18-04-2008 11:06PM

Thrill wrote: »

It was a hoax or a misunderstanding, thank goodness. Click the link in the quoted post and read the short article.

Thanks Thrill.
Geez, that's a pretty sick hoax.

Peared · 18-04-2008 11:07PM

I dunno, the talk is that this is some kind of elaborate hoax (maybe this in itself is the "art")

If it is true, I hope she has been irreperably damaged and cannot conceive when she wishes to.

So many people wishing for babies and mourning lost ones and this stupid wagon trying to become famous by doing this.

JC 2K3 · 18-04-2008 11:10PM

I love it.

Anything can be art and whether it is worthy of being described as art can be judged by the emotions and reactions it evokes.

I think, judging by the reactions in this thread, that you cannot deny its artistic merit.

I'm not surprised it's a hoax, since I doubt someone would put their body through that and also not have any moral concerns. However, the concept is still brilliant.

Pretentious art that is fúcked up is the best kind.

daiixi · 18-04-2008 11:10PM

I love it. She has a period every month and claims she's self aborting and people actually believed it.

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