Champions League Quarter Finals

eZe^ · 09-04-2008 10:23PM

Schalke

Rijkaard is definitely the most tactically inept of all the managers at big clubs atm. He is 4-3-3's illegitimate love child, he will not change from it ever. So dont worry, he'll more than likely pick the wrong team and United will win 3-0.

As long as they put in a performance, Ill be happy, regardless of the actual result, Im just dying to see them show some pride in their club and become hungry. Itd be nice to make sure that after the 2 games Liverpool are still the British team to win at the Camp Nou.

Overall psyche- extremely pessimistic with a sprinkling of disdain.

d22ontour · 09-04-2008 10:24PM

Exactly, i think Fergie was right in hoping for English sides in the quarters/semis seeing as we are there now.Playing an attacking team not knowing how he will set up is a major worry.Playing English teams regardless of their set-up would suit United more imo.

adox · 09-04-2008 10:26PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I would share Dunphy's concern about Fergie being a bit too cautious but I still reckon United will prevail from the tie to meet Chelski in Moscow. :cool:

I turned over to Sky after the match and Ferguson said that they have to go to Barcelona and play positively and not conseratively, so hopefully that is a good sign.

Mitch Connor · 09-04-2008 10:31PM

adox wrote: »

I turned over to Sky after the match and Ferguson said that they have to go to Barcelona and play positively and not conseratively, so hopefully that is a good sign.

unfortunately he says things like that regularly, only to play 451 with only Ronaldo and Rooney as the players likely to actually run at the opposition.

I hope he sticks to it, but i'll believe it when I see it.

Personally I would like Hargreaves, Carrick and Aderson in midfield, with Ronaldo roaming behind Tevez and Rooney. Won't happen, but that is what i would like. In reality Scholes and Giggs will play, with Tevez on the bench - its only really whether Anderson or Hargreaves plays beside Scholes and Carrick (I reckon Hargreaves, definately away)

estebancambias · 09-04-2008 11:48PM

adox wrote: »

Were you watching the same game?????

Some of your posts(which I cant be bothered to quote) on this thread have been shocking, in content, but more importantly in tone.

Try and think before you type.

Get off your high horse will ye. You make it out that a football match is fact. Its all subjective, as far as I'm concerned with a top striker Roma would be in with a shout of winning this trophy.

I felt United played well on the counter and let Roma play the real football. It was always going to be harder for Roma, as they had to go at Man Utd allowing loads of room for them to break.

Roma easily could have got a result there tonight.

smemon · 10-04-2008 12:12AM

Roma

I think with the first leg being in the Nou Camp, Utd have the advantage.

I think they'll go with a 4-5-1 and pick Barca apart on the counter.

Don't mind ferguson, he's a politician and simply saying the right things to (a) keep the fans happy and (b) keep Barcelona guessing.

Utd are best when going forward, but they're also strong at the back and Fergie will be more than happy to let Barca makes the moves and then hit them once they leave space at the back.

If Utd don't lose in the Nou Camp, you'd have to fancy them at OT.

As for Chelsea / Liverpool, it could go either way. Chelsea are the better side but Liverpool have an unrivalled work rate in europe, it depends how hungry Chelsea are for it.

A Liverpool / Utd final would be the sweetest final, but the stakes would be so high i'm not sure liverpool or Utd fans could tolerate it

BaZmO* · 10-04-2008 12:19AM

estebancambias wrote: »

You make it out that a football match is fact. Its all subjective,

Well that's not really true, especially when you consider your last point.

estebancambias wrote: »

Roma easily could have got a result there tonight.

But the fact of the matter is that they didn't.

kerash · 10-04-2008 12:28AM

estebancambias wrote: »

Roma easily could have got a result there tonight.

They could have, because UTD were all over the place until the goal, I didnt like that team at all, one didnt know what the other was gonna do. Roma shoulda made the most of the chances they had.

It was a poor game tbh, Roma arent too hot IMO, once they were one down the said goodnite, its their own fault their out.

Man U will beat Barca, I'd say if Liverpool beat Chelsea they'll beat Man U in the final:p

PHB · 10-04-2008 01:53AM

Schalke

Thought Roma were **** personally, didn't offer a huge threat, and for all their passing, had very few clear chances.

United on the other hand weren't great, not bad not great. I thought Pique was very assured to be honest.

KnifeWRENCH · 10-04-2008 01:55AM

kerash wrote: »

I'd say if Liverpool beat Chelsea they'll beat Man U in the final:p

Not a chance!!:p:D
Man U's recent record against Liverpool speaks for itself.
And while Liverpool are generally much more formidable in Europe than in the League, I stilll think Utd would prevail.
I think Chelsea will get past Liverpool. Avraam Grant knows he needs either this trophy or the League title to appease Abromovich.

Dont be at yourself · 10-04-2008 01:57AM

Schalke

I didn't see the game, but congrats to Utd on going through. I was very surprised at the team selection, but Roma were never gonna come back from 2-0 down to win at Old Trafford.

Sets it up for a great semi-final. Barcelona & Man Utd are probably the top two attacking teams in the world on paper (and Man Utd on the pitch too...). It'll be a huge advantage having the second leg at Old Trafford. The Camp Nou is not a place to go needing a result, or even defending a lead. Just ask Schalke. It may be a bit of a cliche, but Barcelona often only seem to turn it on when they really need to - and if they don't get a result in the first leg, they may find it hard to turn over Utd at Old Trafford.

If I was a betting man, I'd just about favour Man Utd. Their league campaign, and Vidic's injury may be a fly in the ointment, but they definitely have the quality and the mentality to do it.

Xavi6 · 10-04-2008 02:03AM

I don't think I've ever supported Barcelona more in my life. I'll be sleeping in my Xavi jersies for the next two weeks. Come on!

kinaldo · 10-04-2008 02:03AM

eZe^ wrote: »

Rijkaard is definitely the most tactically inept of all the managers at big clubs atm. He is 4-3-3's illegitimate love child, he will not change from it ever. So dont worry, he'll more than likely pick the wrong team and United will win 3-0.

The same Rijkaard who rescued Barcelona from one of the worst runs in their history - with the club failing to qualify for the CL and going an unheard of 6 years (99-05) without a trophy to their name - by winning back to back leagues coupled with only their second ever European Cup??

invincibleirish · 10-04-2008 02:07AM

Barca

Have Roma learnt anything from last season? their attack was more blunt this season then it was last (minus Totti i concede) but over the the 2 legs Roma were lacking any kind of cutting edge. why was Giuly, their best creative player available on the bench until mid way through the 2nd half?

Mr. Sensi Jr. needs to open that chequebook if Roma are ever going to make an impact in the CL against the big teams (fluke results apart).

PHB · 10-04-2008 02:09AM

Schalke

I'd rather play Chelsea or Liverpool than Barca, they scare me as a team. I'm hopeful we can beat all 3, but Barca are a scary team.

IrishMike · 10-04-2008 08:01AM

PHB wrote: »

I'd rather play Chelsea or Liverpool than Barca, they scare me as a team. I'm hopeful we can beat all 3, but Barca are a scary team.

Honestly would rate any of the last 4 teams left more than capable of
winning the CL. Barca recently look the weakest to be honest but they
have the most potent attack by far if they were to click on the day.
Outstanding champions league this year.
Some of the matches were absolutly outstanding.

Nalz · 10-04-2008 10:15AM

OPENROAD wrote: »

probably loads of Irish clowns there also.

Whats that supposed to mean?
Irish cant support Manchester United? All United fans are clowns? Any Irish that go over to watch United are clowns? The majority of United fans are clowns? What an absolute fcuking ridiculous and insulting comment to make. Get a grip will ya. And as for that muppet who argeed with ya and made the "putting on the English accent comments", go have a bowl of custard...

estebancambias · 10-04-2008 02:38PM

Trilla wrote: »

Whats that supposed to mean?
Irish cant support Manchester United? All United fans are clowns? Any Irish that go over to watch United are clowns? The majority of United fans are clowns? What an absolute fcuking ridiculous and insulting comment to make. Get a grip will ya. And as for that muppet who argeed with ya and made the "putting on the English accent comments", go have a bowl of custard...

That would be me. Doesn't Openroad hate Ireland, and support Arsenal anyway?

I called them clowns because they were singing ''same old Italians always cheating'' I don't find that funny, and its such a crap chant.

I support people following whatever team they want, but I become a Nazi when it comes to the Irish National Team. You either support them, or you die.

PHB · 10-04-2008 03:05PM

Schalke

The chant is same old itites, always cheating. I have never heard the word itite before yesterday, is it a racial slur?

BaZmO* · 10-04-2008 03:26PM

PHB wrote: »

The chant is same old itites, always cheating. I have never heard the word itite before yesterday, is it a racial slur?

I take it by "itites" you mean as in pronounced "Eye-toy"? If so it's a well known colloquialism for an Italian.

growler · 10-04-2008 04:03PM

its "eyetie"

BaZmO* · 10-04-2008 04:29PM

growler wrote: »

its "eyetie"

Sorry you're right, dunno why I used "toy"

growler · 10-04-2008 05:35PM

BaZmO* wrote: »

Sorry you're right, dunno why I used "toy"

no worries, I'd still love to have heard the "itites" chant though :-)

quarryman · 10-04-2008 05:42PM

Why are people **STILL** voting on the poll?!

I noticed it was 11 Arsenal 15 Liverpool near the end of the game. Now its 51 for liverpool!

Pigman II · 10-04-2008 11:52PM

Well done to Rangers for getting into the Champions-League-Losers semi-final. It's nice to see another British team have success in Europe and Whitaker got a very impressive goal there at the death.

OPENROAD · 10-04-2008 11:57PM

Trilla wrote: »

Whats that supposed to mean?
Irish cant support Manchester United? All United fans are clowns? Any Irish that go over to watch United are clowns? The majority of United fans are clowns? What an absolute fcuking ridiculous and insulting comment to make. Get a grip will ya. And as for that muppet who argeed with ya and made the "putting on the English accent comments", go have a bowl of custard...

Jesus Christ, I wish people would read threads before having a go, the op referred to "English clowns" (which is insulting)in reference to man utd supporters at the match, I was trying to point out to him that there were probably loads of Irish there also. It was not meant to be insulting on my part :mad:

OPENROAD · 11-04-2008 12:00AM

estebancambias wrote: »

That would be me. Doesn't Openroad hate Ireland, and support Arsenal anyway?

WTF :mad: When have I ever said I hate Ireland. I don't support international football,have no real interest in it but how does that equate to hating Ireland, please explain

Nalz · 11-04-2008 12:34AM

Openroad if I took you up wrong I apologize. But you can see how it can be taken up,especially with the comment from estebancambias about english accents that followed

OPENROAD · 11-04-2008 12:40AM

Trilla wrote: »

Openroad if I took you up wrong I apologize. But you can see how it can be taken up,especially with the comment from estebancambias about english accents that followed

no worries but just to clarify my post was in no way meant to be insulting and I apologize if it was taken that way by anybody, my post was in response to estebancambias who had said "English clowns" referring to utd fans.

Boggles · 11-04-2008 01:01AM

OPENROAD wrote: »

no worries but just to clarify my post was in no way meant to be insulting and I apologize if it was taken that way by anybody, my post was in response to estebancambias who had said "English clowns" referring to utd fans.

Twas pretty clear to be honest and correct, I think some people need to lighten up a bit or just read posts properly.

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