Terry Henry on the move?

PHB · 08-04-2008 04:20PM

Can't see him going to a non-CL club. Can't see him coming back to England except to Arsenal.
Off to Italy with him I'd say.

Mr Alan · 08-04-2008 04:23PM

kind of defeats the purpose though PHB if he is making the move to be closer to his daughter? No?

CantGetNoSleep · 08-04-2008 04:26PM

PHB wrote: »

Can't see him going to a non-CL club. Can't see him coming back to England except to Arsenal.
Off to Italy with him I'd say.

He failed there before though, Italian football is at it's worse state in my memory, and all this talk about his daughter?

event · 08-04-2008 04:34PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Chelsea si the only possibility there then isnt it Event?

cant see them wanting him tbh, or him wanting to go there.

oh they'd take him alright, imagine him and drogba?

and with enough €€€€ he'd go anywhere

PHB · 08-04-2008 04:35PM

Ultimately football will come into play. Can't see him going to a non-CL club, even if it means moving to Italy.

If he moves, it's because he's being moved on imo.

Tusky · 08-04-2008 04:36PM

Well hes supposedly home sick and misses his family so if he does leave, it will be to an English club. He will also want champions league football.

Chelsea - London club...but cant see it happening
Arsenal - Most probable destination
Liverpool - Second most likely destination, has spoken of his admiration of the club an gets on well with Gerrard.
Man Utd - Dont see it happening.

ibh · 08-04-2008 04:37PM

event wrote: »

oh they'd take him alright, imagine him and drogba?

and with enough €€€€ he'd go anywhere

In all fairness what are the chances of Drogba playing with Chelsea next year??? The only way he'll play with Drogba is if he stays at Barca and Jose is appointed there...

CantGetNoSleep · 08-04-2008 04:40PM

Tusky wrote: »

Well hes supposedly home sick and misses his family so if he does leave, it will be to an English club. He will also want champions league football.

Chelsea - London club...but cant see it happening
Arsenal - Most probable destination
Liverpool - Second most likely destination, has spoken of his admiration of the club an gets on well with Gerrard.
Man Utd - Dont see it happening.

Would Arsenal really take him back though after all was said when they were playing so well earlier in the season about how he held them back

Although they have looked very one dimensional in recent weeks

Tusky · 08-04-2008 04:43PM

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Would Arsenal really take him back though after all was said when they were playing so well earlier in the season about how he held them back

Although they have looked very one dimensional in recent weeks

Well, I didnt really pay too close attention to that so Im not sure. I really cant imagine him going to anyone outside of the big 4. Im sure he would think he was too big for the likes of Everton or City. Wouldnt go to Spurs because of the rivalry and I really cant imagine him playing for Newcastle, Blackburn or Villa.

You never know though. If he is truly homesick and has his heart on a move home closer to his daughter, he may go to anyone that offers him a contract.

Melion · 08-04-2008 04:47PM

I dont agree with what was said about him going where the €€€€ is. He has never seemed like that kind of guy IMO. I think he would be a perfect signing for Liverpool, would definitely help Babel with his game like he helped Walcott at Arsenal. Even if its only for 2-3 years he couldnt be a bad signing. Imagine the pace of Torres, Babel, Stevie and Henry running at defenders.

Torres

Henry

Gerrard

Babel

Masch

Alonso

PHB · 08-04-2008 04:51PM

He's not good enough anymore for a title winning squad imo. Wouldn't want him at United. Can't see why Arsenal or Chelsea would want him.
Liverpool seems a good fit, but how much closer is that really than Barca?

Mr Alan · 08-04-2008 04:52PM

**** that line up above would be class

Melion · 08-04-2008 04:54PM

PHB wrote: »

He's not good enough anymore for a title winning squad imo. Wouldn't want him at United. Can't see why Arsenal or Chelsea would want him.
Liverpool seems a good fit, but how much closer is that really than Barca?

Not good enough for the squad????

I could understand if you said the first XI but surely he's worth a place in the squad of any team in the PL

ibh · 08-04-2008 04:59PM

PHB wrote: »

He's not good enough anymore for a title winning squad imo. Wouldn't want him at United. Can't see why Arsenal or Chelsea would want him.
Liverpool seems a good fit, but how much closer is that really than Barca?

Ridiculous statement tbh.. How does someone like Saha or Giggs have a place in a (potential) title winning squad??

I could see Chelsea wanting him cause he's the style of player that they still lack. Although they may be cautious about buying an ageing legend after the Sheva disaster..

Bubs101 · 08-04-2008 05:00PM

I agree with him not being the one to move for money so I think there's a decent chance he might move to Inter or AC for the milanese lifestyle. He's into the fashion malarky and if you have the money Milano is great. He also has something to prove in italy

IrishMike · 08-04-2008 05:01PM

PHB wrote: »

He's not good enough anymore for a title winning squad imo. Wouldn't want him at United. Can't see why Arsenal or Chelsea would want him.
Liverpool seems a good fit, but how much closer is that really than Barca?

Stupid post of the week right there.
He is good enough to walk into most teams in the world so to say he is not
good enough for a title winning squad is just beyond belief.

PHB · 08-04-2008 05:02PM

Eh, not sure to be honest. I think Wenger sold him at the right time, infact, maybe he should have sold him a year earlier, gotten more money.

He'll be 31 by the start of next season. His primary attribute is his pace, and it's fading. Also he is injury prone.
He's still got a lot of magic in him, but to be honest,

I'd pick Arsenals first 3 strikers ahead of him, I'd pick Uniteds first two strikers ahead of him, and for the 3rd one I'd want somebody better than Henry.
I'd even pick Chelseas top 3 strikers ahead of him, although it's close been Shevchenko and Henry.
Liverpool just happen to have a derth in quality up front after Torres, so he'd be a good fit for them, as in he's better than Crouch, but to be honest, don't think he's good enough to warrent his costs.

If he was willing to accept something like 60k a week on a one year deal, and he cost less than 6 million, I think it'd be an average move for United, wouldn't be too happy, wouldn't be too sad, but to be honest, he's past his prime.
There's a reason Bojan has displaced him.

He's still a dangerous player, no doubt about it, indeed I wouldn't be surprised if he played a key role in the CL this year, but for a title challenging squad, he's just not consistantly good enough anymore.

Mr Alan · 08-04-2008 05:04PM

its a ridiculous thing to say alright PHB.

O'Shea,Brown,Anderson,Nani,Giggs,Saha,Silvestre et al, are good enough for a title winning sqaud, but Henry isnt? Get a grip lad.

IrishMike · 08-04-2008 05:08PM

PHB wrote: »

His primary attribute is his pace, and it's fading. Also he is injury prone.

? His primary attribute is his amazing ability to score every single type of goal you can imagine.
The only strikers better than him in the premiership at the moment are Drogba and Torres.
United dont have a striker that scores goals like Henry (im counting Ronaldo
as a winger not a striker obviously) or anywhere near as often as Henry
Arsenal have Adebayour but he has done it for all of half a season as has Torres.
He would still be in the top 3 strikers in the league if he came back to England
so it is mindblowing to say he would not be good enough to be in any of
the top 4s squads.

You are obviously taking crap because to say his pace is fading obviously means you
havent seen him at all this season.
His pace is far from fading, he is as fast as ever.
He just hasnt adapted at all to the Barca system and/or lifestyle
The man is still a genius

PHB · 08-04-2008 05:09PM

Saha is a great player when fit, he's just never fit.

Giggs isn't good enough anymore for a title winning squad.

Brown imo is an average player, who I could take or leave. The only reason I'd like to keep him is because he's a local lad. Still, in their relative position, Brown has been better than Henry this year.

O'Shea plays as a magical utility player, which in a 5 subs rule league is essential. If Henry could play up front, on the wings and in central midfield, you might have a point.

Anderson and Nani have played at least as good as him this year, and are young and hence it's ok to have them play poorly because they will develop.

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His primary attribute is his amazing ability to score every single type of goal you can imagine.

No, that was his primary attribute.

This isn't Henry of 2 or 3 years ago, when he was very likely the best striker in the league by some distance.
Just like Shechenko ya know, 2 or 3 years ago, who was arguably the best striker in the world.

Take a look at Henry's stats:

3 seasons ago: 30 goals in all comps
2 seasons ago: 33 goals in all comps
1 season ago: 18 goals in all comps
this season: 11 goals in all comps

He's a rapidly fading player, which isn't surprising. He isn't making it at Barca for a reason, and there's a reason Wenger sold him on.

United and Chelsea currently have the best squads in the PL. Both clearly need a new striker, United moreso than Chelsea. I'd wager that not many of those two teams would be happy with Henry being the striker they signed this year.

Sqaull20 · 08-04-2008 05:13PM

IrishMike wrote: »

Cant see Rafa blowing 15m+ on a aging player with huge wages and ask him
to play in a much deeper role.
He can be extremely lazy, is prone to sulk on the field and despite his
amazing talent i for one would not want him to join.
Would see 15m spent on ashley young as a much better investment.

Ashley Young lol...

Who is he and what has he done?

Henry is still top class and has more talent that Kuyt, Voronin and Crouch put together...

He would be a good signing for yee, Gerrard, Carra and the fans would get him going again...

Still has a fair bit of pace and still has a lot to offer, I don't know of any other striker in the world who can utilize his first touch so effectively, Babel and co could learn..

http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/W68J5C75JFJYDP6H

PHB · 08-04-2008 05:16PM

Ashley Young lol...

Who is he and what has he done?

He's scored 4 goals and gotten 16 assists in the league this season, for Villa.

Henry got 7 goals and 7 assists in the league for Barcelona, with Xavi Deco Ronaldinho and Iniesta feeding him, Eto Ronaldinho and Messi getting on the end of his through balls.

Who's been better this season?

Melion · 08-04-2008 05:20PM

Id rather spend £20m on Young than £10m on Henry but Young wont be available this summer. I think Henry would be a great signing for us if he played on the left wing of an attacking 4 like i posted above.

walshki · 08-04-2008 05:23PM

As a pool fan I'd be delighted to see him join us for various reasons. One is the system we play (recently) - FFS - we play Kuyt wide on the right - how could Henry not be a quantum leap forward in terms of attacking threat. Henry always played the channels anyway so put him out there joining up with Torres - its a great match.

Second - massive proven ability in the premiership - this may be less than it was but he hasn't fallen away that badly and his class is still there. Kuyt was great in Holland, Shevchenko was great in Italy, Henry was great in England - I know which I'd prefer.

Barcelona hasn't worked out but he'll still be a good/great player for 2 or 3 more years. 10m and somewhat reasonable wages and he'd be a great buy - I think there should be a good chance he'd go for it too.

invincibleirish · 08-04-2008 05:25PM

Young aint going nowhere..........

As for Henry,i think MON should consider kidnapping his Daughter and use that as bait to sign Henry for Villa. Failing that maybe he can extoll to Henry the joys of the M6 means TH is only 2 hours* away from north London where presumably his offspring is based.

*give or take

Nalz · 08-04-2008 05:26PM

Sqaull20 wrote: »

Ashley Young lol...

Who is he and what has he done?

To quote JumpAround O Niell "He's my Ronaldo". He's been leathal this year... I'd love to see him at United.

Sqaull20 · 08-04-2008 05:30PM

PHB wrote: »

He's scored 4 goals and gotten 16 assists in the league this season, for Villa.

Henry got 7 goals and 7 assists in the league for Barcelona, with Xavi Deco Ronaldinho and Iniesta feeding him, Eto Ronaldinho and Messi getting on the end of his through balls.

Who's been better this season?

Since when does goals and assists define you?

Young has a bit of pace, but has nothing of note to make him a £15 mill guy, just like Bentley

Villain · 08-04-2008 05:37PM

LOL Squall20, He has a bit of pace, he has a hell of a lot more than that, you don't get assists by just being quick, his delivery has been excellent.

Pighead · 08-04-2008 05:37PM

PHB wrote: »

Take a look at Henry's stats:

3 seasons ago: 30 goals in all comps 42 Games
2 seasons ago: 33 goals in all comps 44 Games
1 season ago: 18 goals in all comps 27 Games

Come on PHB you know as well as I do that the above is not a true representation of the facts. You're trying to suggest that he was in decline in his final year at Arsenal by giving us the stat that he scored 15 goals less.

What you fail to tell us is that he played 17 less games! Of course his goals total is gonna be lower.

Nalz · 08-04-2008 05:41PM

Pighead wrote: »

What you fail to tell us is that he played 17 less games! Of course his goals total is gonna be lower.

He was in decline because he was injured and only played half the games...he was missing that spark/turn of pace also.

Terry Henry on the move?

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