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Terry Henry on the move?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    IrishMike wrote: »
    You are obviously taking crap because to say his pace is fading obviously means you
    havent seen him at all this season.
    His pace is far from fading, he is as fast as ever.
    He just hasnt adapted at all to the Barca system and/or lifestyle
    The man is still a genius

    How much of him have you actually seen this season? To say he hasn't faded is laughable. I've seen him in the flesh a few times this season and watched almost every game Barça have played. He's not as quick or clinical as he was and he doesn't seem to have the killer first touch that people here are talking about. I've lost count of the number of times he's tried to knock the ball past defender, only for it to run out of play or the amount of times he's been easily dispossessed. As I said already, he was abysmal at the start of the season, played well in the middle and has been quite poor of late. Maybe it's the Barça system that doesn't suit him, although he's been given a chance on the right, left and through the middle of their attacking triangle and has failed to deliver.

    His pace has faded quite considerably, which is understandable because he's definitely past his prime. He's also been plagued with injuries and from what I've been told, he's got a back problem which will only continue to deteriorate. I don't think he has a problem with the lifestyle at all. Food is much better, as is the weather and he's picked up Spanish very quickly.

    The main driving force here is his daughter, which he's said so himself. That automatically rules out a move to Italy. Liverpool is too far away from London for Henry to consider imo. Maybe he'll move in the summer, maybe he wont. One thing is for sure though. If you're expecting the old Arsenal Henry to terrorise defences and beat entire teams on his own, you'll be very disappointed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭invincibleirish


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    Since when does goals and assists define you?

    Young has a bit of pace, but has nothing of note to make him a £15 mill guy, just like Bentley

    Thats OK, Liverpool can keep Pennant, and we'll keep Young, i know which one i'd rather have! and let me tell you it aint that drink driving,ASBO dodging, prison livin', tagged chav extraordinaire. who also still doesny know how to cross a ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Trilla wrote: »
    He was in decline because he was injured and only played half the games...he was missing that spark/turn of pace also.
    Yeah maybe you're right. This goal especially from just over a year ago shows him at his shoddy worst.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCV6Verj0es&feature=related


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Thats OK, Liverpool can keep Pennant, and we'll keep Young, i know which one i'd rather have! and let me tell you it aint that drink driving,ASBO dodging, prison livin', tagged chav extraordinaire. who also still doesny know how to cross a ball.

    My bad, must have slipped my mind that its a guarante Young will be a success at a big club...

    Pennant had how many goals/assists before he joined pool?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    Pighead wrote: »
    Yeah maybe you're right. This goal especially from just over a year ago shows him at his shoddy worst.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCV6Verj0es&feature=related

    That was over 2 years ago and Carragher should have dealt with it!;)

    Edit: And Dudek should have saved it aswell!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Pighead wrote: »
    Yeah maybe you're right. This goal especially from just over a year ago shows him at his shoddy worst.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCV6Verj0es&feature=related

    He is still very quick, but has to try much harder to run that fast...

    The Henry of old ( 21 -26 ) wouldnt have needed to shoulder Carragher...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWT7f_YI8t0

    Against Sevilla, still has decent pace

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYajXgg_IQ8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    An Citeog wrote: »
    That was over 2 years ago and Carragher should have dealt with it!;)
    No it wasn't. It was January 2007. Just over a year ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭invincibleirish


    Sqaull20 wrote: »
    My bad, must have slipped my mind that its a guarante Young will be a success at a big club...

    of course you're right, there is no guarantee he would be a success at Man Utd./Arsenal/Chelsea, forgive me ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,404 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    PHB wrote: »
    Saha is a great player when fit, he's just never fit.

    Giggs isn't good enough anymore for a title winning squad.

    Brown imo is an average player, who I could take or leave. The only reason I'd like to keep him is because he's a local lad. Still, in their relative position, Brown has been better than Henry this year.

    O'Shea plays as a magical utility player, which in a 5 subs rule league is essential. If Henry could play up front, on the wings and in central midfield, you might have a point.

    Anderson and Nani have played at least as good as him this year, and are young and hence it's ok to have them play poorly because they will develop.

    --



    No, that was his primary attribute.

    This isn't Henry of 2 or 3 years ago, when he was very likely the best striker in the league by some distance.
    Just like Shechenko ya know, 2 or 3 years ago, who was arguably the best striker in the world.

    Take a look at Henry's stats:

    3 seasons ago: 30 goals in all comps
    2 seasons ago: 33 goals in all comps
    1 season ago: 18 goals in all comps
    this season: 11 goals in all comps

    He's a rapidly fading player, which isn't surprising. He isn't making it at Barca for a reason, and there's a reason Wenger sold him on.

    United and Chelsea currently have the best squads in the PL. Both clearly need a new striker, United moreso than Chelsea. I'd wager that not many of those two teams would be happy with Henry being the striker they signed this year.
    Saha is far from a great player when fit, he had a few good months at United when he joined first and at the start of last season, but even if he stayed fit, I wouldn't call him anything like a great player, a good Prem player perhaps, but not a starting striker in a top 4 squad.

    If Henry comes back to the PL, i'm putting a tenner on him being top scorer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    Pighead wrote: »
    No it wasn't. It was January 2007. Just over a year ago.

    My bad. I just looked at the tags under the video and it said FA Cup 2006. Anyway, Carragher still should have cleared it and Dudek should have saved it!:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,591 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Aren't himself and the missus divorced?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭zuchum


    Villain wrote: »
    I think people are writing Henry off a little too much, he's had a bad season but so has most of the Barca team including Ronaldhino, I wouldn't write him off.

    I'd go as far as writing Ronaldinho off too...:cool:

    If he becomes amazing again,I'll eat my,admittedly small and tasty,hat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    cson wrote: »
    Aren't himself and the missus divorced?

    That's the whole point. She's unwilling to up sticks and move, so that the kid can be near him. That and language issues I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭King John V


    Can't see Henry returning to Arsenal tbh. I can't see Wenger shelling out over 15 million on a player he only sold a year ago. England looks to be on the cards though as the rumours today was that he was missing his family at home in London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Everyone knows Henry is scouse.


    Don't think he would fancy living up there though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    If Barca know what's good for them, then they'll get shot of him.

    The Bojan-Eto'o-Messi frontline is the future and the line-up that has served Barcelona best this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    PHB wrote: »
    Giggs isn't good enough anymore for a title winning squad.

    So by that logic, Utd cannot win the title this year as Giggs has been playing regularly, correct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    We've massively compensated for him. He's not good enough. Just because we could win it anyway doesn't mean he's good enough.

    If I played for them reguarly and we won the league, I still wouldn't be good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    so now we're comparing you to Henry?

    i give up.

    simple fact is you said Henry is not good enough for a title winning squad. You couldnt be more wrong imo.

    night xxxx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Well sure he'll sign for Liverpool and we'll see :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    I can see Henry putting PHB in his place...

    He can make himself an even bigger Arsenal legend, if he can help Barca knock out those pr!cks..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him knock United out, he's still got it in him to perform in big games, as he did against Schalke. Then again, that's not what I was talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,452 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    I'm a bit skeptical that family issues are the cause of him being unsettled/off form. Adapting from being the big time charlie at Arsenal to a squad player at Barcelona at that stage in his career was always going to be difficult. I reckon a move is in the interests of all parties involved.

    To where? Not to Arsenal or Man Utd. I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea or Liverpool went for him. I'd welcome him at Liverpool - he's got a proven Premiership pedigree and he has a couple of seasons in him yet.

    I wonder though, what about a move to Lyon? A cushy enough number. He'd be the star of the team, would rip Ligue 1 to shreds, and would still have Champions League football to look forward to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I think he will want to move back to London so can see him heading to West London imo.


    That is QPR by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Sqaull20


    Miss the man, miss the player

    He is Arsenal through and through.

    He belongs here, couldn't bare seeing him with another premiership team..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1yeTRghAnY&feature=related


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Attractive Nun




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Probably the best forward that scored great goals in english football ever!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭IrishMike


    PHB wrote: »
    Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him knock United out, he's still got it in him to perform in big games, as he did against Schalke. Then again, that's not what I was talking about.

    He still has it in him to perform in the big games yet he is not good enough to be a squad player for any of the teams challenging for the title.
    PHB let me take that shovel away from you before that hole gets any deeper :rolleyes:

    If he had one leg and developed a heroin addiction he would still be good
    enough to be a squad player in every squad in the premiership.:cool:


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