Phones on Planes?

Xavi6 · 08-04-2008 02:17AM

I really don't think I'll be able to stomach my flight back to Ireland with some wanker behind me having a completely pointless conversation on the phone. It'll be a nightmare more so with longhaul flights as people will only make calls to pass the time.

JC 2K3 · 08-04-2008 02:24AM

Surely this will cost an extortionate amount?

Especially where ryanair are concerned...

I wouldn't be too worried about people making annoying phonecalls tbh.

af_thefragile · 08-04-2008 11:33AM

Mythbusters proved mobiles phones don't interfere with aircraft equiptment in anyway.
Using you phone in a plane will make no difference to the aircraft.

masseyno9 · 08-04-2008 11:48AM

af_thefragile wrote: »

Mythbusters proved mobiles phones don't interfere with aircraft equiptment in anyway.
Using you phone in a plane will make no difference to the aircraft.

irrelevant much??

The issue is about annoying passengers with loud voices on phones. It all depends on the costs if this idea is to take off (pun unashamedly intended!). My thoughts are it will be prohibitively expensive, except for the business class passengers, most of whom use the sat phones anyway.

biko · 08-04-2008 12:08PM

Sweet, I can join the mile high club with my laptop and Vodafone's Mobile Connect 3G broadband data card.
Shuffles off toward the toilets with lappy

Drift · 08-04-2008 12:21PM

Charging extra for it is a load of balls. When you're flying over land you can normally pick up one of the ground based antennae anyway and make a call as normal.

Btw it wasn't me that did this!!! I was on a plane in Egypt a few years ago and the guy in the seat in front of me was on his phone for most of the flight.

Don1 · 08-04-2008 12:36PM

No calls, maybe texts, only silent. If that's too much too ask, outright ban.

Children should be sedated. 11 hour flight with a very young teething (constantly crying) child and a bastid toddler in front of me, accompanied by inadequate parents = hell. If the opening in the toilet was larger I'd have attempted flushing them.
If sedation is a little harsh, restraints and gagging tape could be used.

A do not disturb section (3/4 of the plane please) would also be nice. I'm sorry but I don't feel the need to talk to a stranger for 5 hours. After the initial 10-15mins it becomes strained and annoying.

Some means of odour control would also be most beneficial.

Zulu · 08-04-2008 12:37PM

Pfffftt, what's with all the disgruntled peasants today?
I must say I'm delighted, now my secretary has no excuses, lazy cow.

Hrududu · 08-04-2008 01:11PM

read my posts again, why would you shout into the phone? unless the service is crap, and you can only hear every 2nd word, then its going to be the same as using the "landline" phones in planes - you can talk in a normal voice, your not going to be shouting AIRPLANE every 2 seconds, like some mentally challenged whos having fun with a phone are you?

Have you never been on a bus or a train? Some people are incapable of speaking quietly into a phone. The same person can chat quietly to the person beside them but then make sure everyone on the bus can hear them when on the phone. It probably doesnt bother some people but i have a ridiculously low level of tolerance for unecessary noise in public. And thats just normal people. Thats not counting the clowns that will be blasting Cascada through their tinny speakers.

Ruu_Old · 08-04-2008 01:14PM

I was on some airline a few weeks ago, can't remember who it was (some US based carrier) but they had some very, very old landline type handsets in them and they were marked AT&T. They were placed in the headrests in front of you. I assume they were used for emergencies or something else.

Steve · 08-04-2008 01:15PM

Drift wrote: »

Charging extra for it is a load of balls. When you're flying over land you can normally pick up one of the ground based antennae anyway and make a call as normal.

Btw it wasn't me that did this!!! I was on a plane in Egypt a few years ago and the guy in the seat in front of me was on his phone for most of the flight.

AFAIK that will work with the older analogue systems, not with GSM as you change cells too quickly and the data packets get lost.

Don1 wrote: »

No calls, maybe texts, only silent. If that's too much too ask, outright ban.

Children should be sedated. 11 hour flight with a very young teething (constantly crying) child and a bastid toddler in front of me, accompanied by inadequate parents = hell. If the opening in the toilet was larger I'd have attempted flushing them.
If sedation is a little harsh, restraints and gagging tape could be used.

A do not disturb section (3/4 of the plane please) would also be nice. I'm sorry but I don't feel the need to talk to a stranger for 5 hours. After the initial 10-15mins it becomes strained and annoying.

Some means of odour control would also be most beneficial.

QFT.

The only thing worse is when you get a kicker behind you.:mad::mad::mad:

Ponster · 08-04-2008 01:28PM

af_thefragile wrote: »

Mythbusters proved mobiles phones don't interfere with aircraft equiptment in anyway.
Using you phone in a plane will make no difference to the aircraft.

A couple of hundred phones all working at once in a plane could cause a risk. One phone won't make a difference. You mustn't have been correctly watching the episode anyhow because they did prove that the phone did interfere with the cockpit instruments.

thelordofcheese · 08-04-2008 01:55PM

Zulu wrote: »

Pfffftt, what's with all the disgruntled peasants today?
I must say I'm delighted, now my secretary has no excuses, lazy cow.

/Monocle On

Exactly, if the rabble can't afford their own plane for jaunting around the place then they should stop complaining and work on not being so damn poor.

honestly these lower classes confound me no end..

/Monocle Off

4Xcut · 08-04-2008 01:55PM

Ruu wrote: »

Ban babies from planes I say, little whingers getting to board first. :mad:

I and i'm sure a good many others too would be quite willing to pay a premium for childless flights. But in fiarness, its not children's fault(if they're very young). Parents are just sh1te. If i had behaved that way when i was a nipper.....well i just wouldn't. I think we were just taught that there was a certain way to act in public and that was it.

Carbiens · 08-04-2008 02:28PM

I work for a company thats practically pioneering this feature. Voice calls are not allowed on flights, its strictly GPRS and SMS only with support on the way for 3g.

Lurk moar.

Drift · 08-04-2008 02:39PM

stevec wrote: »

AFAIK that will work with the older analogue systems, not with GSM as you change cells too quickly and the data packets get lost.

This was a few years back alright so it is possible he still had an analogue phone although they were gone out of ireland at the time. I think it was around 2004.

Peteee · 08-04-2008 02:42PM

Drift wrote: »

Charging extra for it is a load of balls. When you're flying over land you can normally pick up one of the ground based antennae anyway and make a call as normal.

As pointed out if everyone did this, everyone would be switching cell towers every few seconds, and the amount of handover traffic would bring down the network. Also theres a greater risk of cross cell interference.

It has little to do with instrument interference AFAIK.

As usual wiki has an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft

Drift · 08-04-2008 03:58PM

Peteee wrote: »

As pointed out if everyone did this, everyone would be switching cell towers every few seconds, and the amount of handover traffic would bring down the network. Also theres a greater risk of cross cell interference.

It has little to do with instrument interference AFAIK.

As usual wiki has an article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft

Read the article .. interesting stuff. So what would happen in theory if I forced my phone to use a signal from a ground based tower as opposed to one from Michael O' Leary's "Rape you up the arse" Tower? Would my call drop after a few minutes/seconds? Or would I be able to make one at all. AFAIK some people on board the planes on 9/11 used their mobiles?

Overheal · 08-04-2008 04:05PM

af_thefragile wrote: »

Mythbusters proved mobiles phones don't interfere with aircraft equiptment in anyway.
Using you phone in a plane will make no difference to the aircraft.

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whatever standard they use in that states though for their cell towers has removed that issue.. but youre talking about european carriers here.

Beerlao · 08-04-2008 04:08PM

oh dear. i seem to have stumbled upon the Daily Mail's forums.

oh wait...

god forbid people might be talking on phones, aaaarrrrrggggh it's PC gone mad
catch a grip people, put some music in your ears and go to sleep. i agree with the lordofcheese

could be worse, could be snakes

Overheal · 08-04-2008 04:25PM

Beerlao wrote: »

oh dear. i seem to have stumbled upon the Daily Mail's forums.

oh wait...

god forbid people might be talking on phones, aaaarrrrrggggh it's PC gone mad
catch a grip people, put some music in your ears and go to sleep. i agree with the lordofcheese

could be worse, could be snakes

You arent listening, are you?

Beerlao · 08-04-2008 04:33PM

Overheal wrote: »

You arent listening, are you?

no. i'm at work so i've got the sound turned off. am i missing something? :rolleyes:

if you're talking about headphones going mental, i never get that problem and i've been using them on public transport for a few years now

Dragan · 08-04-2008 04:45PM

Mr.S wrote: »

wtf are you on about? i mean, overreact much?

apart from the ring tone, what difference is talking into a phone, then talking to the person next to you?

Generally speaking conversations between too people occur at a controlled volume. In my experience, especially around transport, conversations on phones seem to be shouted.

Overheal · 08-04-2008 04:51PM

Beerlao wrote: »

no. i'm at work so i've got the sound turned off. am i missing something? :rolleyes:

if you're talking about headphones going mental, i never get that problem and i've been using them on public transport for a few years now

Im talking about Noise-Cancelling Headphones. Not your cheap gutter trash iPod earphones.

Keeping noise low at the ear makes it possible to enjoy music without raising the volume unnecessarily. It can also help a passenger sleep in a noisy vehicle such as an airliner.

They may pick up and convert stray electromagnetic fields, such as a mobile phone signal, into unwanted noise[citation needed] such as buzzing sound.

xOxSinéadxOx · 08-04-2008 05:07PM

Karsini wrote: »

I'm sick of little tarts and scanger blokes on trains and buses, especially buses, blaring 32k MP3 ringtones out of their crappy phone speaker. Seems it's about to happen on planes too now.

my god, imagine that, you're going to be on a plane waaaaaaaay longer than on the luas!:eek:

get a ****ing mp3 player with headphones!:mad:

Rob_l · 08-04-2008 05:14PM

I will be having loud and long conversations on planes as soon as I can just to annoy people, who are so easily annoyed.

Beerlao · 08-04-2008 06:11PM

Overheal wrote: »

Im talking about Noise-Cancelling Headphones. Not your cheap gutter trash iPod earphones.

i don't use them. i wear Sennheiser cans that were pretty expensive actually.

but yeah. boo hoo.

i hope for your sake you'd never have someone wanting to get in touch with you while you're on a plane, with an emergency such as an accident in the family, as your principles would stop you being able to talk to them.

and anyway, how many people are realistically gonna sit and do a Triggerhappy TV the whole way home???

Overheal · 08-04-2008 06:17PM

! Playing the Overheal's Signature Card are we?

Fortunately I havent had to find that out as of yet. But on a train ride from Carlow to Ennis (when it was an emergency) I'll be honest, I was much happier with the peace and quiet to gather my thoughts and never exercised my access to a phone.

Sennheiser has a nice noise-cancelling line it seems; but I was using Skullcandy at the time. Either brand would suffer from the same issue if they were both using Active Noise Cancelling (which they are). If you have normal phones' you just dont know what youre missing

Steve · 08-04-2008 06:27PM

Some interesting comments here
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/19/business/mobile.php

Cabin staff members will be able to turn off the system or restrict usage to text services like SMS, as they see fit.

The first aircraft to go into operation with the system will probably be a short-haul Airbus A318 operated by Air France. The British airline BMI, the Portuguese airline TAP and the budget airline Ryanair have also signed up to offer the services, said Graham Lake, chief commercial officer of OnAir, a joint venture between Airbus and SITA, a communications services company.

The cost of a call, however, might make for short conversations.
While OnAir does not set the fees, Lake said the expected cost would be around $2.50 per minute for calls and 50 cents per SMS message.
"Instead of roaming in a country, you are effectively roaming in the sky," Lake said. "We send your call via satellite down to the GSM network."
Call charges will appear on customer phone bills in an identical way to international roaming, with revenue shared between the airlines, OnAir and the customer's own phone company.
There will be no phone prices posted in the aircraft, however. "Similar to international roaming, it is perhaps never totally clear what the consumer's end price will be until the bill arrives," Lake said. "Passengers calling the same phone number from the same flight could pay very different amounts, depending on the contract they have with the cellphone service provider."

Airline staff will have control over the OnAir system, including the ability to limit incoming calls or only allow text-based communication, like SMS messages or BlackBerry service.
"The system is designed for cabin crew to act when there is inappropriate behavior on board," Lake said. "Most airlines will probably shut off the incoming calls during overnight longhaul flights."

Overheal · 08-04-2008 06:43PM

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