Do you know any convicts?

Eglinton · 05-04-2008 06:18PM #1

My friends and I were discussing the topic of going to prison last night. Neither I nor any of them know anyone personally that is currently in jail or previously jailed. I suppose it's a product of our social class and luck over the years that we've never been close to that sort of person/gang/group.

So do any of you boardsies know anyone in prison? I don't mean if you know of a guy in your local town that's done a stretch. We all know/have heard of them.

I mean really personally - relative, close friend etc. What did they do; What do you think of them now; How does it make you feel?

MrJoeSoap · 05-04-2008 06:21PM

Yore Ma should be in jail for some of the things she does to me.

Rb · 05-04-2008 06:21PM

A friend of mine was jailed briefly for tax evasion.
No impact on what I think of him now.

Agent Smith · 05-04-2008 06:23PM

i know someone who was in jail for a short period of time.
i honnestly think it made him a better person.

Mr. CooL ICE · 05-04-2008 06:23PM

Worked with a guy in a summer job who was due to serve his sentence for crashing while drink driving, 2 weeks after having his license revoked for drink driving :rolleyes:

AARRRGH · 05-04-2008 06:27PM

A friend of mine (kind of an ex friend at this stage) was in prison for being an illegal immigrant. They kept her there for about two months and then released her as she refused to tell them where she is from.

She now has an Irish passport.

Moral of the story: if you're an illegal immigrant, they can't deport you if they don't know where to send you.

DetectivFoxtrot · 05-04-2008 06:36PM

yeh a cousin of mine is doing 5 years for drug offences. I won't say anything like 'he got in with a bad crowd' or any of that because it would be horsesh1te - he knew exactly what he was doing, it just went pearshaped on him. Sad situation - his wife just had a baby before he went in, he also got married right before he went in which was great to see but sad at the same time as we all knew a custodial sentence was inevitable. Imaging being the wife and knowing your next 5 anniversaries will be spent alone with your child?? tough lady - I've a lot of resect for her.

Anyway, genuniely prison has been the making of him. He's there 2 years now. Gave up the fags, goes to the gym everyday and is writing a lot about his experiences - he reckons he'll write a book about his experiences inside - and I bet he will! We here from him the odd time - every now and then he gets access to a mobile phone and rings us and he tells us the maddest funniest stories about prison life. Obviously there's a very depressing side to it aswell. He says there's stabbings everyday over drugs and just the other day a chap was murdered for a score of heroin. Although he did drugs he never went the heroin route (consuming or selling) so him seeing poeple inject and be off there faces is quite scary.. He is a chef so gets to work in the kitchen and therefore mingles with the female inmates more than others. He said he reguarly sees the Scissor sisters! (the ones what carried your mans head in a bag around The Square) :eek:

Anyway, that's my tale

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-04-2008 06:52PM

Yes, me. I'm in jail right now

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pretty*monster · 05-04-2008 07:20PM

I mate of mine did a few weeks in the joy for breaking an injunction over the bin tax a few years ago.
Lovely guy, if a bit too idealistic at times.

Plug · 05-04-2008 07:34PM

2 first cousins are out and my brother and his friend will be there soon!

seahorse · 05-04-2008 07:48PM

Eglinton wrote: »

I suppose it's a product of our social class and luck over the years that we've never been close to that sort of person/gang/group.

It's a product of a lot of peoples social class that they never went to prison in the first place, since white collar crime is not targeted by the guards and the courts as it ought to be.

Eglinton wrote: »

So do any of you boardsies know anyone in prison? I don't mean if you know of a guy in your local town that's done a stretch. We all know/have heard of them.

I mean really personally - relative, close friend etc. What did they do; What do you think of them now; How does it make you feel?

Yes, two past lovers, one family member and one friend. It doesn't affect my opinion of them as people, or make me feel any way in particular, except that it was a pity their lives went in that direction.

L1011 · 05-04-2008 07:53PM

Mate - 3 months I think for posession, really for fecking up in court (no lawyer, not dressed appropriately)

Colleague - few weeks for evading arrest on public order offences (taking a slash on O'Connell Street at night, ran from the cops, got caught)

Don't like the colleague to begin with but I don't think anything less of the friend - done when he was 18 and he's 25 now, wouldn't have even gone inside if he'd not been over-confident of getting a slap on the wrist really. Wouldn't do it again, either.

Tha Gopher · 05-04-2008 07:55PM

DetectivFoxtrot wrote: »

He says there's stabbings everyday over drugs and just the other day a chap was murdered for a score of heroin.

Really? Funny it never made the news.

Unless the joy is like the prison in Oz, and there are 3 odd murders a week swept under the rug.

He said he reguarly sees the Scissor sisters! (the ones what carried your mans head in a bag around The Square) :eek:

The blonde one is a ride.

In all fairness, she is like

Rb · 05-04-2008 07:55PM

seahorse wrote: »

It's a product of a lot of peoples social class that they never went to prison in the first place, since white collar crime is not targeted by the guards and the courts as it ought to be.

I'd much rather see Garda resources be spent on tackling drugs/organised crime etc than white collar crime tbh. Our prisons are busy enough as is, keep putting the true scum into them and I'm a happy taxpayer.

Also, you're right, it is a product of social class and there's far, far more criminals in the lower classes than any other, regardless of the form of crime committed.

Rb · 05-04-2008 07:57PM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Really? Funny it never made the news.

Unless the joy is like the prison in Oz, and there are 3 odd murders a week swept under the rug.

The blonde one is a ride.

In all fairness, she is like

I'd imagine as little news of them gets out to the public as possible, it'd put more pressure on the prisons to work harder to fight it, which I'm sure they don't want.

seahorse · 05-04-2008 08:14PM

rb_ie wrote: »

I'd much rather see Garda resources be spent on tackling drugs/organised crime etc than white collar crime tbh. Our prisons are busy enough as is, keep putting the true scum into them and I'm a happy taxpayer.

Are the businessmen who launder drug money not 'true scum' then?

rb_ie wrote: »

Also, you're right, it is a product of social class and there's far, far more criminals in the lower classes than any other, regardless of the form of crime committed.

I don't see how you could claim to know that unless you know the personal business of every person in the country! Obviously crimes like joyriding and petty drug offences are mainly the preserve of criminals in the lower classes, but as for 'regardless of the form of crime committed', that doesn't make logical sense; white collar crime is, by its nature, mainly the preserve of the middle and upper classes.

Tha Gopher · 05-04-2008 08:16PM

rb_ie wrote: »

I'd imagine as little news of them gets out to the public as possible, it'd put more pressure on the prisons to work harder to fight it, which I'm sure they don't want.

While Im sure assaults and non fatal stabbings go unreported, tbh you cant brush murders under the carpet.

seahorse wrote: »

Obviously crimes like joyriding and petty drug offences are mainly the preserve of criminals in the lower classes,

Do you not read the Sindo?

Most working class people have never even heard of cocaine. In Dublin 4 however, people brush their teeth with the stuff its so widespread. :rolleyes:

[Jackass] · 05-04-2008 08:28PM

I was in school with a guy who was convicted of manslaughter and was in prison for a couple of months before his sentence was revoked due to a technical error on his charge sheet.

Lucky lucky guy!! Came from a great background, wealthy familly, was given great education and every oppertunity in life and ended up on the dole whilst working in his dads pub also. I think he should be in jail because he's a complete cu*t and got in one of those "anabells" type fights on a night out and a young man died of a fractured skull. Was all over the news a few years back. It was actually his cousin that he killed!

Anyway, never liked the guy and its mad how some people get away with things!! :eek: Not that I think he would be a danger to society and I'm sure he's learnt his lesson, but obviously deserved punishment...

Sherifu · 05-04-2008 08:29PM

No.

Queen-Mise · 05-04-2008 09:07PM

yes my long-term partner and my brother have both been in prison. To be honest it is interesting, both of them had (have) alcohol problem, and were similar to each other getting into fights, robbing houses etc.
One of them is off the gargle for the past 10 years, life is cleaned up and is now a professional.
The other one is still up to the same game, rolling along from crisis to crisis, was in prison for a term as recently as 18 months ago. Now in their very high 30s. Sad to see.

Collie D · 05-04-2008 09:20PM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Really? Funny it never made the news.

Unless the joy is like the prison in Oz, and there are 3 odd murders a week swept under the rug.

+1 to that

Tha Gopher wrote: »

The blonde one is a ride.

In all fairness, she is like

-1 to that. Are you f*cking joking!! :eek: She looks like a man. Well rough looking too, probably beat the **** out of most of the male inmates too.

rb_ie wrote: »

I'd much rather see Garda resources be spent on tackling drugs/organised crime etc than white collar crime tbh. Our prisons are busy enough as is, keep putting the true scum into them and I'm a happy taxpayer.

Also, you're right, it is a product of social class and there's far, far more criminals in the lower classes than any other, regardless of the form of crime committed.

By true scum I assume you mean the working classes? You really are a piece of work. Between your obvious hatred of women and anyone who's not from a leafy middle class suburb, you're the most blatant snob on here at times. I thought this before about you but decided to give you the benefit ogf the doubt but one or two of your comments today have really bugged me.

So your mate got banged up for tax evasion? Was it on a large scale? It's still theft of a sort. What's the difference between that and somebody shoplifting? I bet you'd be screaming for anyone who stole from you to be put away.

Justice has always worked differently in this country depending on who your parents are and where you live. People like you will ensure this continues.

Rant over

EDIT I've had a smke and calmed down a bit but in answer to the OP, yes. Some minor things and some very serious.

Tha Gopher · 05-04-2008 09:23PM

Collie D wrote: »

-1 to that. Are you f*cking joking!! :eek: She looks like a man. Well rough looking too, probably beat the **** out of most of the male inmates too.

Certain you aint thinkin of the black haired one?

She is as rough as a bears bollix in fairness. But the brownish blonde, yup yup

Collie D · 05-04-2008 09:24PM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Certain you aint thinkin of the black haired one?

She is as rough as a bears bollix in fairness. But the brownish blonde, yup yup

No way, man. They're both ugly as sin. Look at the jaw on the blonde one, so masculine

AckwelFoley · 05-04-2008 09:26PM

Yea, been from Athlone you gt to mingle with all sorts of colourful ppl.

I know a guy from dublin that butchered his wife and 2 kids a few yrs ago near Moate. Really lovely guy. Very polite. Anger managment issues. Hes now being used as a sex toy in Jail.

I also know another guy, english born.. complete small time dealer big time junky.. did some time for road traffic offences. Id like to tap his daughter.

seahorse · 05-04-2008 09:49PM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Do you not read the Sindo?

I don't know what the Sindo is, never mind read it.

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Most working class people have never even heard of cocaine. In Dublin 4 however, people brush their teeth with the stuff its so widespread. :rolleyes:

Ah come on now, I've yet to met a person who's never heard of cocaine, regardless where they're from.

Tha Gopher wrote: »

It's still theft of a sort.

It is of course; only difference between a house breaker and a tax evader is the latter is robbing from every tax payer in the country. It'd be very interesting to see what the true social demographics of crime really are, not that we can expect that any time soon.

Tha Gopher · 05-04-2008 09:56PM

seahorse wrote: »

I don't know what the Sindo is, never mind read it.

Ah come on now, I've yet to met a person who's never heard of cocaine, regardless where they're from.

Okey doke.

Firstly, the Sindo is the Sunday Independant newspaper. You may remember them from such exclusives as Liam Lawlor was with a prostitute when he died in a car crash in Moscow :rolleyes: It would have been a rather apt end to a scandalous existance, but alas, it wasnt actually true. Like a significant proportion of the "news" they print sandwiched somewhere between the 28 pages of advertisements.

Aside from that, the Sunday Independant usually devotes around, oh, 3 articles a week to the apparent epidemic of cocaine abuse among "D4 types". Completely ignoring a few facts

a- Cocaine in this country is of appallingly bad quality

b- Most D4s dont go near it on a regular basis

c- On any super Sunday prem match you are alot more likely to find wide eyed cokeheads in pubs located in rough spots in Finglas than you are in a southside wine bar. Now, given that, cocaine use fom my view in Dublin is on the slide (though down the country it is exploding) but in both places it is the same type of people making up the bulk of the user base- think Argos jewellery, Dutch Gold and knacker trance blasting from the motor. Most D4s or posh types from the country I know wouldnt have a breeze where to obtain cocaine. Where I live its much easier to get than hash.

btw you msquoted me re the theft thing. Im all for theft from government.

Collie D · 05-04-2008 10:01PM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

btw you msquoted me re the theft thing. Im all for theft from government.

In his defence that was me he quoted, think he just mixed up the multiquote function and put your name on it

Loopy · 05-04-2008 10:17PM

Yes, a very good friend went down for 3 months, it was years ago and over something which turned out very unfair on my mate, it involved a top politician and his son..

S'all about the money..

Dyr · 05-04-2008 11:58PM

Me great granda murdered a sailor with his bare hands in the states apparently

Me granda (political though)
A few family friends and a few friends (some political, some were just ODC's lol)

FruitLover · 06-04-2008 12:30AM

Tha Gopher wrote: »

The blonde one is a ride.

In all fairness, she is like

Bet you wouldn't want to get head from her though, never know what you'd be setting yourself up for...

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 06-04-2008 12:31AM

Bambi wrote: »

Me great granda murdered a sailor with his bare hands in the states apparently

Me granda (political though)
A few family friends and a few friends (some political, some were just ODC's lol)

....Bertie?:eek:

Do you know any convicts?

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