Heavy Weight Boxer vs Huge Wrestler

J.L. · 03-04-2008 03:29PM

Perhaps they would kick big shows arse.
He's big and dopey and slow as heck.

But a real wrestler, like a Brazilian Jujitsu fighter or similar MMA would destroy even Tyson in his peak.

You'd wanna be careful of that first punch though!

ScumLord · 03-04-2008 03:50PM

There was something like this on the radio a few months back. Yerman reckoned in a fight between Muhammad Ali and Bruce Lee, ali would win because he's bigger and just has more power than Ali.

I think that's nonsense, surely Bruce with he's wide range of fight skills and speed would cream anybody put before him.

Dragan · 03-04-2008 03:52PM

snyper wrote: »

Hes hardly a sports man.

Actually, he played college basketball for four years and has done Powerlifting and Strong Man contests.

A lot of the wrestlers have some pretty impressive sporting backgrounds actually.

And the answer is the boxer.

If you don't know why you have never fought a good boxer.

To mix it up a bit watch Fedor Vs Choi in MMA. Interesting take on the size thing helping you out against a smaller more skilled foe.

Sherifu · 03-04-2008 03:58PM

The Boxer. Easily.

skywalker · 03-04-2008 04:01PM

Dragan wrote: »

And the answer is the boxer.

If you don't know why you have never fought a good boxer.

I dunno how your giving a definitive answer either way tbh. If mma has proven anything, its that no one skill can beat all the others. Although traditionally wrestlers have fared a lot better than boxers, they tend to be crap on their backs.

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Dragan wrote: »

To mix it up a bit watch Fedor Vs Choi in MMA. Interesting take on the size thing helping you out against a smaller more skilled foe.

Second this. you should fine it on youtube easy enough, & its defintely worth seeing in the context of this debate.

Mossy Monk · 03-04-2008 05:55PM

Didn't Butterbean knock out some wrestler in a boxing match a few years back?

Zapp Brannigan · 03-04-2008 06:05PM

Fedor would win.

Cactus Col · 03-04-2008 06:30PM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Didn't Butterbean knock out some wrestler in a boxing match a few years back?

Bart Gunn, at wrestlemania a few years ago. WWE had a series of shoot matches called the brawl for all.

The idea behind it was to be able to push Steve Williams as a legitimate tough guy. A fairly big star in Japan, he wasn't well known among wwf fans. However he ended up getting ko'd by Bart Gunn in the second round of the tournament.

UFC hall of famer Dan Severn also took part in the tournament, but withdrew.

Fanny Cradock · 03-04-2008 07:07PM

I'd imagine that the boxer will be handing out the 'beatings' until he is on the brink of victory, then in an incredible plot twist, this Big Show chap will smack him with a dustbin lid (as thin as tinfoil) that just happens to be lying under the ring. It's panto for the masses.

Oswald Osbourne · 03-04-2008 07:13PM

It's unfair to put an overweight sexually-confused actor (because this is what all "wrestlers" are) in the ring with a professional boxer. It would be tantamount to murder.

kowloon · 03-04-2008 07:22PM

Theres always:
http://www.fmft.net/archives/BBC_NEWS.htm

Oswald Osbourne · 03-04-2008 07:31PM

Bah! Why did I miss that!

Mossy Monk · 03-04-2008 08:12PM

Cactus Col wrote: »

Bart Gunn, at wrestlemania a few years ago. WWE had a series of shoot matches called the brawl for all.

That's who it was. Here is the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S652hvQaWfY

Oswald Osbourne · 03-04-2008 08:25PM

Haha, he nearly took that guys head off with that last punch.

Sherifu · 03-04-2008 08:52PM

Good aul Butterbean.

rossie1977 · 03-04-2008 09:55PM

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

I'd imagine that the boxer will be handing out the 'beatings' until he is on the brink of victory, then in an incredible plot twist, this Big Show chap will smack him with a dustbin lid (as thin as tinfoil) that just happens to be lying under the ring. It's panto for the masses.

actually the exact opposite happened, wrestler on top then mayweather uses a chair and brass knuckles to win; in the end both men put on a very good show and mayweather is a born entertainer in any field, real or pre-determined

i would like to see a real shoot fight between the two, the question is could a 150lb man really hurt a moving 450lb guy with a punch carrying a third of his weight of pressure.

Canis Lupus · 03-04-2008 10:27PM

I saw one fight with Butterbean versus some tiny Japanese martial artist who just ran around Butter till he got an opening and put him in an arm bar or leg lock, can't remember but it was kinda embarrassing to watch for Butter being whupped by your man.

03-04-2008 11:17PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I saw one fight with Butterbean versus some tiny Japanese martial artist who just ran around Butter till he got an opening and put him in an arm bar or leg lock, can't remember but it was kinda embarrassing to watch for Butter being whupped by your man.

Genki Sudo

Skip to about 3:10 or so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2SqIkt0E7o

skill>size

Dragan · 03-04-2008 11:34PM

Doesn't really matter who you are or how big, Genki Sudo will mess with your mind then tap you.

Fanny Cradock · 03-04-2008 11:57PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

actually the exact opposite happened, wrestler on top then mayweather uses a chair and brass knuckles to win; in the end both men put on a very good show and mayweather is a born entertainer in any field, real or pre-determined

i would like to see a real shoot fight between the two, the question is could a 150lb man really hurt a moving 450lb guy with a punch carrying a third of his weight of pressure.

Who would have thunk it! Actually, it makes sense - this way that fans are left wanting more. Wouldn't be too shocked to see 'Iron Mike' battle the 'Iron Sheik' with special guest referee with a Sgt. Slaughter some time down the road. No doubt a tables, dustbins and chairs will be involved at some stage.

It has been many a year since I last watch those guys with their withered genitals (that's steroids for ya!) crammed into their horrendously tight Lycra undies prance around the ring grappling each others greased-up bodies.

J.L. · 04-04-2008 01:32AM

Dragan wrote: »

And the answer is the boxer.

If you don't know why you have never fought a good boxer.

And you obviously havn't.
From someone who switched from boxing to shoot and jujitsu I can tell you that almost any pro boxer will be scarred to fight any grappler.

How can you box him when he has you locked up in 10 seconds??

Like I said, watch out for that first punch, then its game over for the boxer.

Never seen a boxer win any MMA tournaments, probably any fights at all.

steveland? · 04-04-2008 02:29AM

Fanny Cradock wrote: »

Wouldn't be too shocked to see 'Iron Mike' battle the 'Iron Sheik' with special guest referee with a Sgt. Slaughter some time down the road.

Actually that *nearly* happened ten years ago. Although Tyson was the ref at Wrestlemania 14 between Shawn Michaels and Stone Cold.

I'd imagine Big Show would probably win in a real fight between him and Mayweather... Big Show's got a reach much, much longer than Mayweathers so he wouldn't have to get as close as Floyd would. He's, what, one and a half feet taller than him, over twice his weight and Big Show can move when he wants to. His fist is the size of Mayweather's head. Top that off with the fact that he spent the past year or two actually training to be a boxer and I reckon he'd at least put up a good fight. When Mayweather broke his nose Big Show was kneeling down begging him to hit him... If the two were legit fighting I can't see Mayweather being able to reach his head to knock him out (unless it's prison rules and then he'd just punch him in the balls...). Big Show could just grab him by the neck at full stretch and Mayweather wouldn't be able to reach (what was it, 12 inch reach difference?)

Mayweather was always going to win it, no way would he agree to go into a worked sport and tarnish his 39-0 undefeated streak with a "fake" loss...

But then again Big Show comes accross as quite a nice guy outside of the rasslin so he'd probably just want to talk about it

(oh and if anyone thinks that wrestling is "fake" just because the endings are scripted and most of the fighting coreographed look for videos of Shelton Benjamin falling on the ladder and Shawn Michaels moonsaulting onto the table at this years Wrestlemania... I know they were scripted but god-damn they'd have to hurt none the less...

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