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Is Ireland narrow minded with fashion?

  • 02-04-2008 12:47AM
    #1
    BraziliaNZ
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    I remember when I was a kid I had long hair for a bit and used to get serious hassle in school over it until I threw in the towel and got the short back and sides shaved with that stupid little fringe thing that all kids had. It seems to be the same even for adults. I remember a mate from abroad was visiting me in Dublin and about 3 or 4 people commented on "the head on that" down the local because he had longish hair.
    I've noticed abroad that people can be a lot more expressive with the clothes they wear and hair etc. without getting any "stick" over it. I remember having youngfellas shouting at me for wearing shorts on a bus in summer LOL. I mean I always used to see kids in Dublin whether they be goth or emo or whatever, getting abuse and started on etc. by other kids with the usual tracksuit/short hair mullarkey. Why are so many people freaked out by something different? It's pretty sad really, it's a lot more colourful when you have all kinds of mad looking people about the place, everyone looks the same back home.


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  • #2
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    I remember when I was a kid I had long hair for a bit and used to get serious hassle in school over it until I threw in the towel and got the short back and sides shaved with that stupid little fringe thing that all kids had. It seems to be the same even for adults. I remember a mate from abroad was visiting me in Dublin and about 3 or 4 people commented on "the head on that" down the local because he had longish hair.
    I've noticed abroad that people can be a lot more expressive with the clothes they wear and hair etc. without getting any "stick" over it. I remember having youngfellas shouting at me for wearing shorts on a bus in summer LOL. I mean I always used to see kids in Dublin whether they be goth or emo or whatever, getting abuse and started on etc. by other kids with the usual tracksuit/short hair mullarkey. Why are so many people freaked out by something different? It's pretty sad really, it's a lot more colourful when you have all kinds of mad looking people about the place, everyone looks the same back home.

    Ireland is narrow-minded full stop. We have a very conservative attitude and anyone who looks or acts different is someoen to be ridiculed. Someone asked in a different thread are we being Americanised? They have teenage quarebacks, we have u-18 hurling captains.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #3
    leninbenjamin
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    without a doubt yes. becomes especially apparent when travelling. you can nearly always identify Irish by what they wear.


  • #4
    ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV
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    The Irish are so plain looking, i lived abroad for a few months and let my hair grow and now im back and have long hair and a new style of clothing and everybody actually loves it.... i don't get stick over it...


  • #5
    Senna
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    Long haired fella = Gay

    **runs away laughing and pointing**


  • #6
    Rb
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    It's so cool to hate ourselves these days, isn't it?


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  • #7
    Xavi6
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    To be fair Ireland is very narrow minded in comparison to other countries. Over here no one gives a f*ck what you were and you aren't ridiculed based on your style.

    Some days I'll wear boardies and a t-shirt and other days I'll wear jeans and a jersey. I don't feel as conscious about what other people think. Back home everyone from D4's to skangers is judging you.


  • #8
    magick
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    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    I remember when I was a kid I had long hair for a bit and used to get serious hassle in school over it until I threw in the towel and got the short back and sides shaved with that stupid little fringe thing that all kids had. It seems to be the same even for adults. I remember a mate from abroad was visiting me in Dublin and about 3 or 4 people commented on "the head on that" down the local because he had longish hair.
    I've noticed abroad that people can be a lot more expressive with the clothes they wear and hair etc. without getting any "stick" over it. I remember having youngfellas shouting at me for wearing shorts on a bus in summer LOL. I mean I always used to see kids in Dublin whether they be goth or emo or whatever, getting abuse and started on etc. by other kids with the usual tracksuit/short hair mullarkey. Why are so many people freaked out by something different? It's pretty sad really, it's a lot more colourful when you have all kinds of mad looking people about the place, everyone looks the same back home.

    Rather than listening to the opinions of your peers/friends/random strangers who no one gives a f*uk about, it sounds more like you have issues with self-esteem.


  • #9
    togster
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    Ireland is narrow minded. I was in London at the weekend, and everyone has there own sense of style. Its just cool. You could spot the irish a mile away with there sense of style from the 90's.


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
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    Well, I'm overseas living in a university town and most everyone wears washed out and faded blacks, greys, and blues, sometimes at the same time. All very dull and boring indeed. If you wear something colourful, you really stand out. No, people tend to be polite and not comment, but you can feel odd sporting bright colours, even on a sunny warm day near the beach. There is so much subtle conformity here, in spite of the fact that students come from all over the world to study at this school. And no, it's not because they are poor at this university either and cannot afford new clothes, cause I roll my eyes at the expensive new vehicles that too many drive, obviously bought by their Da and Mum.


  • #11
    Spud83
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    To be fair Ireland is very narrow minded in comparison to other countries. Over here no one gives a f*ck what you were and you aren't ridiculed based on your style.

    Some days I'll wear boardies and a t-shirt and other days I'll wear jeans and a jersey. I don't feel as conscious about what other people think. Back home everyone from D4's to skangers is judging you.

    Liar I got abuse for wearing a AFL jersey and shorts.

    maybe I shouldn't have been wearing a Saints top in Perth.

    I have rarely noticied people getting abuse for what they are wearing. I have heard people make a joke or something but I never thought of it as abuse just people having a laugh.

    Only ever heard the lower classes (PC for knackers) giving stick on buses and stuff but sure they will do that about anything just because the are inscure little f**ks who want to look "mad" in fornt of there mates.

    As for "D4 heads" I have have only ever heard them give the stick back to the kanckers.


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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
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    Everybody knows that if you have long hair you are teh ghey. I think what makes this worse is that you let them get to you so much and got that effin stupid fringe!

    One thing I'm always amazed about is the way people's attitudes have changed. Anyone remember the episode of the Simpson's where Homer wears a pink shirt to work and is sent to an insane asylum. And yet it has become somewhat acceptable to wear a pink shirt now (no, it's not Salmon, it's pink!)


  • #13
    gaf1983
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    In last Sunday's Sunday Times Rod Liddle mentioned a pretty shocking case of a teenage girl in England being beaten to death recently for dressing like a goth (well specifically for coming to the aid of her boyfriend who was dressed likewise and beaten up because of it) in this article:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/rod_liddle/article3646263.ece

    Now while this is an extreme example of narrow-mindedness, you do get it in a lot of places, Ireland being no exception.


  • #14
    ScumLord
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    This is Ireland, buy a new shirt. Get abuse. Wear a hat. Get abuse. Take off the hat. Get abuse for buckling to pear pressure.

    Giving and taking abuse is all part and parcel of the Irish mentality.

    There was a lad in town with a knitting pattern shaved into the side of his head. Even though I thought it was pretty cool I gave him awful abuse over it.

    I have a daft looking beard and I get abuse for it but I counter by ridiculing myself more than anyone else can, thus canceling out the abuse. Fight fire with fire.


  • #15
    seraphimvc
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    This is Ireland, buy a new shirt. Get abuse. Wear a hat. Get abuse. Take off the hat. Get abuse for buckling to pear pressure.

    Giving and taking abuse is all part and parcel of the Irish mentality.

    There was a lad in town with a knitting pattern shaved into the side of his head. Even though I thought it was pretty cool I gave him awful abuse over it.

    I have a daft looking beard and I get abuse for it but I counter by ridiculing myself more than anyone else can, thus canceling out the abuse. Fight fire with fire.
    lol unkind but so true!

    now i am glad i live in city!

    *oh well dont compare others big cities to dublin....*


  • #16
    Cactus Col
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    alanmurphy83 wrote: »
    Only ever heard the lower classes (PC for knackers)

    It's PC to call everyone in the working class knackers now?

    who knew?


  • #17
    TerrorFirmer
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    Cactus Col wrote: »
    It's PC to call everyone in the working class knackers now?

    who knew?

    Obviously you didn't because you're not educated....knacker. ;)


  • #18
    Karl Hungus
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    rb_ie wrote: »
    It's so cool to hate ourselves these days, isn't it?

    Quoted for truth.


  • #19
    event
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    rb_ie wrote: »
    It's so cool to hate ourselves these days, isn't it?

    and remember, this never happens anywhere else

    sure there people have been abroad. it didnt happen to them, so therefore it happens no where is that country :rolleyes:


  • #20
    togster
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    event wrote: »
    and remember, this never happens anywhere else

    sure there people have been abroad. it didnt happen to them, so therefore it happens no where is that country :rolleyes:

    no but it happens alot in ireland. More so than anywhere els i have lived tbh.


  • #21
    ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV
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    9/10 men wear jeans and a shirt out and i hate when i see guys wearing a jumper over the shirt and you can just see the shirt collar. lack of fashion.


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  • #22
    Ross_Mahon
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    ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV wrote: »
    9/10 men wear jeans and a shirt out and i hate when i see guys wearing a jumper over the shirt and you can just see the shirt collar. lack of fashion.
    But fashion is kind of narrowed down when your going out to a club,the bouncers can be dopes about what you wear. :confused:


  • #23
    AnonoBoy
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    ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV wrote: »
    lack of fashion.

    Lack of Fashion????? That's a great phrase - if completely redundant.

    Maybe it's just something that's not to your taste.

    Lack of fashion? What?


  • #24
    connundrum
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    Is it possible that the good folks in Fashion & Appearances may know more about it?

    If its cool to hate ourselves, does that mean we're becoming a sort of quazi emo nation? Or is that what emo's do? Frickin new fangled groups :(


  • #25
    Kernel32
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    I don't think it's lack of fashion, but attack of the clones. I come back to Ireland just about every year with my wife who is American. Since our earliest trips she has made the same comment. People in Ireland dress well even for the most mundane of things like a little Saturday morning shopping unlike many Americans. But on the flip side they all look the same, particularly the men.


  • #26
    Latchy
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    The weather has a lot to do with fashion and lets face it ,winter is for covering up and staying warm .That's not to say one cant be fashionable.In my case i go for the warm heavey lumberjack type shirt that builders wear just for the comfort value but they (imo) look cool on anybody . When abroad in a warmer climate i like the knee lenght shorts with snazzy vest or shirt .Fashion is also a state of mind and what you feel comfortable in and give me a goth ,hippie, retro, indie ,jeans and shirt man , alternitive whatever over the -black tracksuited trainers teen hoodie style -anyday .It's like looking at a bunch of chinese concentration camp victims and it shows a complete lack of individual thinking .


  • #27
    ScumLord
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    Kernel32 wrote: »
    I don't think it's lack of fashion, but attack of the clones. I come back to Ireland just about every year with my wife who is American. Since our earliest trips she has made the same comment. People in Ireland dress well even for the most mundane of things like a little Saturday morning shopping unlike many Americans. But on the flip side they all look the same, particularly the men.
    But what choice have we? T-shirt, shirt, jumper. Jeans, pants, shorts. Is it time to bring back the kilt? I think so.


  • #28
    Kernel32
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    But what choice have we? T-shirt, shirt, jumper. Jeans, pants, shorts. Is it time to bring back the kilt? I think so.

    I am no fashion expert myself. I have dressed the same way with the same haircut since I was 15, I'm in my 30's now. But I have to agree with my missus about there being a look of cloneness when we come to Ireland. A certain amount exists everywhere, particularly with teenagers. But in Ireland you see the same type of shoe on every girl and the same haircut on every guy, for the most part. And I have to say when I go back to Ireland I do feel more self conscious than here. In the summer here I wear shorts and sandals or runners every day. Yeah it's a bit warmer here but I am perfectly comfortable in Ireland wearing the same on a nice summers day. But when I do I feel more self conscious, I can't explain it, it must go back to growing up there and feeling like I should conform with the herd.


  • #29
    Nevyn
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    It happens, my son is 10 and wanted to grow his hair long enough to spike it up like his fav cartoon char and he got hassled in school for not havign a shaved hiar cut but the other kids and when he was visiting relatives in wexford his lack of a hurlers head on him was commented by every one. It wasn't even that long a lil over an inch long over all.


  • #30
    JavaBear
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    Longer hair is a pain in the ass, that's why!


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  • #31
    G Luxel
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    I was served recently by a married man who was over 40 and had short spiky hair so he must have thought he was 16 again.

    Having seen so many tracksuits and runners plus the sovereign rings which i cant stand the sight of, as in one case when I was at a funeral and one part of the family turned up in tracksuits. They were teenagers with their child, so their parents were the mourners and they (the parents) didnt even notice of this standing out a mile but then again there are of a different culture, ie council estate uk so I felt that they should have properly dressed or stayed ed at home.

    I prefer seeing a complete mix of styles.
    Have a look around harajuku. Its a complete mix. havent seen anything of it yet.


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