lipotrim

justsomebloke · 04-03-2008 07:57PM

need so much more info.

height, weight, sex, goals, type of training, whats in the shake what is the rest of your diet like

rubadub · 04-03-2008 08:48PM

jsb wrote: »

whats in the shake what is the rest of your diet like

I presume it is a lipotrim shake, and the rest of the diet that day was 2 shakes, about 300kcal that day, :eek: dangerous crap.

Hanley · 04-03-2008 09:23PM

LIZCFY wrote: »

Just wondering if you ever missed a shake i missed my last one last night wonder could i skip it every day as i feel fine?

Oh dear god no.

Dragan · 04-03-2008 09:30PM

I agree with Hanley.

Please be a troll or a bad joke?

rubadub · 04-03-2008 10:07PM

Originally Posted by rubadub
That is a shocking amount of weight to lose, unless you were severly overwieght and carrying a lot of bodily fluid. I would not be happy about that, and would consult a doctor.

It is disturbing that this crap is sold in pharmacies giving a false impression of it being safe and "medication". The majority of medicine info out there is quoting mg per kilo body mass, smaller doses for kids etc. Lipotrim makes no distinction at all. A 60stone man gets 500kcal, so does a 14stone man, even though their daily calorific needs are hugely different. If I was a pharmacist I wouldnt stock it.

LIZCFY wrote: »

Well it's a good job ur not a pharmacist, cause it has hugh benifits for lots of people once it is monitored correctly and not misused!

No joke unfortunately, and she was commenting on misuse

justsomebloke · 04-03-2008 10:50PM

rubadub wrote: »

I presume it is a lipotrim shake, and the rest of the diet that day was 2 shakes, about 300kcal that day, :eek: dangerous crap.

sorry I thought this was a new seperate thread:o no wonder it made no sense to me:D

Weddinggal · 24-03-2008 05:14PM

LIZCFY wrote: »

Just wondering if you ever missed a shake i missed my last one last night wonder could i skip it every day as i feel fine?

LIZCFY, I have just started on Lipotrim - am on day 5 - and my understanding is that the shakes contain the daily recommended amounts of vitamins and minerals, so I imagine missing a shake on a regular basis would mess up your metabolism.

Was wondering if anyone else on this finds they become nauseated on occassion? Perhaps it is the dread of the taste of these horrible shakes! I am adhering strictly to the 3 shakes and 2 - 3 litres of water a day.

I have just over 3 stone to lose. Am getting married in October and after my fiance and I moved in together 18 months ago we got lazy - no gym or walking and regular take aways. I know that I can do this and get back to my healthy diet. Even a dry ryvita would taster wonderful now! I just need the kick start and the re-introduction of all the lovely healthy food I used to eat! Also have just joined the gym and am very motivated. I want to look gorgeous and sexy on my wedding day and start married life as I mean to go on!

Dudess · 24-03-2008 05:23PM

Probably better to lose fat so, rather than muscle and water - which is what you'll lose on Lipotrim. Between now and October is ample time to lose the weight you want to lose. And it's the perfect period during the year to do so as the weather/day length will be in you favour.
Eat healthily and exercise every day and the fat will fall off - and stay off. With Lipotrim, it'll all come piling back on.
Also, go by the measuring tape and how clothes fit you, rather than the weighing scales. How do you know it's definitely three stone you have to lose? If you do intense exercise you'll build up a certain amount of muscle, which weighs more than fat anyway.

And a final point: my mate did Lipotrim and her breath absolutely REEKED - surely that's reason enough to keep away from that sh1te...?

champer · 26-03-2008 01:19PM

Well I have also heard good things about this aswell as all the bad things here. My sister did it for just 2 weeks ( I would not advocate too much longer) and lost almost a stone and it was the encouragment that she needed to continue being healthy and eating better and got her in the frame of mind for excercise too so I dont see that as a bad thing.

ONe other thing that really encourges me about it is that after doing it, is that she said that your taste buds become refreshed. For example I eat waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much salt but she said that after this you pallette is clean as such and that you would not need so much sugar or salt. If it did that alone for me I would be very happy :-)

I know people are going to argue with this and I am not saying it is gosple but i am just trelling you my personal experience

C

Weddinggal · 26-03-2008 02:39PM

I have both a medical and psychological background and am aware that Lipotrim is certainly NOT a quick fix for weight issues. However, I am working long hours, commuting long distances and as part of my decision to take the bull by the horns and get healthy I looked at my options. I wanted a kick start which would allow me to wean myself off all the cr*p I have been eating and start afresh with healthy eating (which I had been so good at previous to meeting my fiance!). I also had tried and failed to address some digestive problems (which have resolved in the past week!).

I plan to do this for three weeks and then do the re-feed with a view to continuing following the Weight Watcher's diet. I have also joined the gym and though it is not open when I leave in the morning and ususally closing when I get home at night, I can usually squeeze in 2 - 3 sessions per week. I am also walking at lunchtime and know that I will do this without causing any harm to myself. It is certainly not something I want to do again!

I understand that many on this site condone the use of Lipotrim, and like many things in life there will be those who abuse it. But this is the answer to the prayers of those who need to lose weight for medical reasons - especialy when life saving surgery is needed and surgery is contra-indicated when someone is obese.

I also believe that, under medical advice and with the correct mindset that healthy eating is the way forward, it can work as a full detox and incenticve for people like me who have gone up a few dress sizes and need a kick-start. I am SO looking forward to my salads :-)

As a post script, I cannot find any other chat sites where I can obtain support and information on how others are finding the diet and hope that you will understand.

lipogirl · 27-03-2008 10:33AM

hey weddinggal, dont listen to anyone just do wat u want to do, ders always gonna be downers on boards like dis, well its my 2nd day back on the lipotrim in nearly 2 and a half years very hard dis time i think, i only but back on a stone since coming off it but i dont want to put any more on so here i am again, i lost nearly 3 stone the last time i was on it, if u have any questions or just wanna chat feel free, same to all lipo users out der.:)

Hanley · 27-03-2008 10:48AM

lipogirl wrote: »

hey weddinggal, dont listen to anyone

Yeah, seriously OP don't.

ders always gonna be downers on boards like dis

*Realists

well its my 2nd day back on the lipotrim in nearly 2 and a half years very hard dis time i think, i only but back on a stone since coming off it but i dont want to put any more on so here i am again

Wow, it's awesome to see how lipotrim was a long term solution for you. It's great how it was a kick start to healthier eating, portion control and discipline regarding diet.

i lost nearly 3 stone the last time i was on it, if u have any questions or just wanna chat feel free, same to all lipo users out der.:)

Seriously, you put back on 33% of the weight you lost. How can you still consider it effective?

rubadub · 27-03-2008 10:57AM

Weddinggal wrote: »

I have both a medical and psychological background and am aware that Lipotrim is certainly NOT a quick fix for weight issues.

I thought it is a quick fix? people can loose a lot of weight (gravitational pull) in a few weeks, which is what many want, or think they want. Since you have a medical background have you considered making your own version. Lipotrim are quite open about what is in the ingredients, there is nothing unusual there. The Irish Medicines Board have investigated it but can do nothing about lipotrim. It is simply a food, it cannot be banned or anything, if Special K ads said you can lose weight eating 2 bowls a day, and nothing else, then nothing could be done either.

There is certainly no need for lipotrim to be sold only in pharmacies, it just puts up a nice marketing facade of it being a faux-pharmaceutical product. You should be able to make up your own lipotrim forumla and feed yourself for under €5 per week.

If lipotrim was only available in dunnes and was €5 per week I wonder if as many people would be using it.

Dragan · 27-03-2008 11:00AM

Hanley wrote: »

Yeah, seriously OP don't.

*Realists

Wow, it's awesome to see how lipotrim was a long term solution for you. It's great how it was a kick start to healthier eating, portion control and discipline regarding diet.

Seriously, you put back on 33% of the weight you lost. How can you still consider it effective?

Hanley, while i appreciate your points in the majority of the above sentences you are incredibly patronising.

Consider this a warning. Attack the post, not the poster.

It's perfectly possible to say "so, if you had to go back onto Lipotrim it would be hard to consider it a long term solution".

lipogirl · 27-03-2008 11:14AM

hanley still putting on 33% of my weight back on in 2 and a half years isn't bad at all, i know people who put on dat in a month who are in weight watchers, i dont know why you are so against it wen clearly it works for sum people and not others, everyone is entitled to choose how and how quick dey loose weight, and from my experience the quicker de better, i was so happy wen i lost all the weight the first time, also i dont think you realise how hard it is either, you need very strong will power to complete the diet..

BaZmO* · 27-03-2008 11:19AM

lipogirl wrote: »

hanley still putting on 33% of my weight back on in 2 and a half years isn't bad at all, i know people who put on dat in a month who are in weight watchers, i dont know why you are so against it wen clearly it works for sum people and not others

The problem with it is it's just a quick fix solution. It doesn't deal with the actually reasons why you're putting on the weight in the first place.

lipogirl wrote: »

also i dont think you realise how hard it is either, you need very strong will power to complete the diet..

Would that will power not be better assigned to actually eating properly and exercising? At least that way you'll have a chance of keeping the weight off for good rather than the usual yo-yo diet merry-go-round.

Dragan · 27-03-2008 11:19AM

lipogirl wrote: »

also i dont think you realise how hard it is either, you need very strong will power to complete the diet..

LOL - it's okay Lipogirl, i think Hanley has just a small idea of the application of willpower somehow.

Also, if you'd be willing to post some weights from 2.5 years before you started lipotrim, the day you started and today i would be curious to see if you rate of weight gain has actually slowed down at all?

BaZmO* · 27-03-2008 11:21AM

Dragan wrote: »

LOL - it's okay Lipogirl, i think Hanley has just a small idea of the application of willpower somehow.

How very patronising.

Jimmy Bottlehead · 27-03-2008 11:22AM

lipogirl wrote: »

hanley still putting on 33% of my weight back on in 2 and a half years isn't bad at all, i know people who put on dat in a month who are in weight watchers, i dont know why you are so against it wen clearly it works for sum people and not others, everyone is entitled to choose how and how quick dey loose weight, and from my experience the quicker de better, i was so happy wen i lost all the weight the first time, also i dont think you realise how hard it is either, you need very strong will power to complete the diet..

But what people don't realise is that you still look 'fat' no matter how much weight you lose, as there is no definition without exercise. In cases where the person cannot exercise due to severe obesity, I agree with it. But it reeks of laziness to me - but then again thats typical of todays lifestyle, wanting results quick with the least work possible.

I knew a girl (don't keep in touch anymore) who did it for a Summer, lost two stone, and then lumped (and I'm using that word very deliberately) it all back on as she ate terribly and didn't exercise. Just because you can drop two stone by depriving yourself for a month doesn't mean:

a) That the results will magically stay
b) That its a healthy way to lose weight

By exercising right and eating well, you can lose the weight GRADUALLY (I always find that weight that goes on quick is lost quickly too, and vice versa) and also look toned, which is what most people want, as well as taking pride in having EARNED the body you have.

lipogirl · 27-03-2008 11:28AM

bazmo de reason i put on weight is i starve my body i am not a huge eater i eat normal amounts of food wen i remember but its the weekend dat kill me im a party girl i go out 4 nights a week, dont have time to eat just party lol, i excercise every day too, im by no means a big girl any more i wear a size 12, i just wanna be thinner, it is a quick fix but it gives you the kick up de bum to start looking after yourself properly, DRAGON. TANXS;)

Hanley · 27-03-2008 11:30AM

lipogirl wrote: »

hanley still putting on 33% of my weight back on in 2 and a half years isn't bad at all, i know people who put on dat in a month who are in weight watchers, i dont know why you are so against it wen clearly it works for sum people and not others, everyone is entitled to choose how and how quick dey loose weight, and from my experience the quicker de better, i was so happy wen i lost all the weight the first time, also i dont think you realise how hard it is either, you need very strong will power to complete the diet..

Generally, the faster you lose the weight, the faster you put it back on. Re-examine this thread, there are as many success stories as there are failures. Ask Longfield what happened him...

If it "works for some but not for others" then that is a prime reason to be against it, but not my only one. What if the OP is one of the ones it doesn't work for? She'll probably put all the weight back on plus interest and feel even worse than she might do already. Out of interest, who has it "worked" for in the long term?

Personally, I wouldn't be happy about putting 33% of the weight I lost back on after having to go thru something that requires so much dedication (your words!). I wouldn't have called that a success. All diets require dedication and there are no quick fixes that work in the long term.

Finally, using WW as an examaple is pretty flawed. While WW may not be great, it is healthier. I bet I could find people who put back on 33% of their weight coming off any diet, but as a concentrated block, lipotrim users are more likely to do it for reasons that have been stated time and time again here.

They're just some of my problems with Lipotrim. Take it for what it's worth.

The reason people on here are so against lipotrim is because they know better. They've seen the difference that a real change to diet makes, and how in the long term it's much more sustainable.

Jimmy Bottlehead · 27-03-2008 11:30AM

lipogirl wrote: »

bazmo de reason i put on weight is i starve my body i am not a huge eater i eat normal amounts of food wen i remember but its the weekend dat kill me im a party girl i go out 4 nights a week, dont have time to eat just party lol, i excercise every day too, im by no means a big girl any more i wear a size 12, i just wanna be thinner, it is a quick fix but it gives you the kick up de bum to start looking after yourself properly, DRAGON. TANXS;)

And without being patronising, the above is EXACTLY why most people on here (realists, as Hanley said) have a problem with Lipotrim. People like Lipogirl abuse it, and use it to pawn off their own crap diets and lifestyles.

Hanley · 27-03-2008 11:34AM

lipogirl wrote: »

bazmo de reason i put on weight is i starve my body i am not a huge eater i eat normal amounts of food wen i remember but its the weekend dat kill me im a party girl i go out 4 nights a week, dont have time to eat just party lol, i excercise every day too, im by no means a big girl any more i wear a size 12, i just wanna be thinner, it is a quick fix but it gives you the kick up de bum to start looking after yourself properly, DRAGON. TANXS;)

Honestly, I don't want to be making personal attacks, and if that's how you live your life I've no problem with it, but I don't think using lipotrim as a support or compensation for the results of the above bolded is a good idea!! It's exactly as Jimmy Bottlehead said above, a quick fix for a lax attitude to weight control.

BaZmO* · 27-03-2008 11:34AM

lipogirl wrote: »

bazmo de reason i put on weight is i starve my body i am not a huge eater i eat normal amounts of food wen i remember but its the weekend dat kill me im a party girl i go out 4 nights a week, dont have time to eat just party lol, i excercise every day too, im by no means a big girl any more i wear a size 12, i just wanna be thinner, it is a quick fix but it gives you the kick up de bum to start looking after yourself properly, DRAGON. TANXS;)

That post is soooo wrong on sooooo many levels. But hey, if you wanna use Lipotrim so be it.

CerebralCortex · 27-03-2008 11:35AM

lipogirl wrote: »

bazmo de reason i put on weight is i starve my body i am not a huge eater i eat normal amounts of food wen i remember but its the weekend dat kill me im a party girl i go out 4 nights a week, dont have time to eat just party lol, i excercise every day too, im by no means a big girl any more i wear a size 12, i just wanna be thinner, it is a quick fix but it gives you the kick up de bum to start looking after yourself properly, DRAGON. TANXS;)

But surely lipotrim is a kick in the opposite direction from looking after yourself?
My philosophy is the body is like an F1 car you don't put diesel or used cooking oil you put in premium!!

Dragan · 27-03-2008 11:38AM

BaZmO* wrote: »

How very patronising.

Apologies to Lipogirl if it came across that way as that was not how it was meant, i was simply saying that Hanley clearly knows about willpower.

It was just blank text however, so if that is how you chose to read into it then by all means knock yourself out.

I will normally, like most other posters on boards, use :rolleyes: to indicate when i am being patronising.

Dragan · 27-03-2008 11:42AM

lipogirl wrote: »

bazmo de reason i put on weight is i starve my body i am not a huge eater i eat normal amounts of food wen i remember but its the weekend dat kill me im a party girl i go out 4 nights a week, dont have time to eat just party lol, i excercise every day too, im by no means a big girl any more i wear a size 12, i just wanna be thinner, it is a quick fix but it gives you the kick up de bum to start looking after yourself properly, DRAGON. TANXS;)

Do you not think the first and last parts of the post are very conflicting?

I mean, you say you starve yourself, do not really eat during the week, party loads but then look after yourself?

From my personal experience of living the party life style it is very, very difficult to maintain a decent level of health.

lipogirl · 27-03-2008 11:42AM

i understand wer yous are coming from but have you ever gone threw being called horrible names? having to go to the big girl(lads) shops? its not a nice experience, so i will do watever dat needs to be done so will never have to go threw dat again, so wat if i want to loose it quick its my choice, i went from 16 stone to 11.5 in 3 months with lipotrim and going to the gym b4 and after work every day. i dont c why its like this on dis board just be happy dat wer doing something about our weight instead of sitting at home eating. x

BaZmO* · 27-03-2008 11:43AM

Dragan wrote: »

It was just blank text however, so if that is how you chose to read into it then by all means knock yourself out.

it's all about interpretation I suppose. You thought Hanley's post was patronising and I didn't, and I thought your post was patronising and you didn't. Anyway, moving on.......

BaZmO* · 27-03-2008 11:49AM

lipogirl wrote: »

i understand wer yous are coming from but have you ever gone threw being called horrible names? having to go to the big girl(lads) shops? its not a nice experience, so i will do watever dat needs to be done so will never have to go threw dat again, so wat if i want to loose it quick its my choice, i went from 16 stone to 11.5 in 3 months with lipotrim and going to the gym b4 and after work every day. i dont c why its like this on dis board just be happy dat wer doing something about our weight instead of sitting at home eating. x

Nobody is having a go at you, they are just trying to guide you in the right, and healthy, direction. Lipotrim is a quick fix, it is a short term solution, in in the long run it is not good for you.

You say in your previous post that you never eat during the week. Surely you know this is not good? And if you say you don't eat during the week, how do you find the time for the Lipotrim shakes?

You seem dedicated enough if you go to the gym that much. With some little tweeks to your diet you could achieve such greater, and sustainable, results.

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