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Rio Named England Captain/England Match Thread

  • 25-03-2008 03:28PM
    #1
    Charlie
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    Just saw on Sky that Rio Grande has been made England captain.

    Not a Chelsea fan, but this seems quite harsh on Mr. Terry. Always strikes me a as a great leader and motivator, whereas Rio is a bit, ...meh.

    Maybe Capello is trying to keep the players on their feet?


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  • #2
    CHD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    meh....England.....who really cares!


  • #3
    Nalz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Rio is having the season of his life though to be fair.

    Although having a serial killer beside you does help!


  • #4
    Charlie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,827 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Trilla wrote: »
    Rio is having the season of his life though to be fair.

    Although having a serial killer beside you does help!

    Yeah I definitely think Rio has pulled his socks up, but I put that down to playing with someone as consistent as Vidic.

    2-3 years ago I wouldn't have seen him as captain material.


  • #5
    _blank_
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    There is going to be a different captain for every friendly, iirc.

    Rio though. Doesn't he generally "get on" with everyone.

    Also, he has been touted as the next captain of United.

    Meh. JT, Stevie G, Rio. I'm sure there are other lads in the squad who'd be "captain material" too.


  • #6
    Mr Alan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    hopefully he remembers to bring his jaffa cakes to the big night.


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  • #7
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,324 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    He should be the United Captain for next season imo. I'll be staying out of this thread, cause while I see Rio as a top class defender who has cut out the laziness and mistakes that were once part of his game while becoming a brilliant defensive organiser (United freaking fall apart at the back without him) and thus a worthy captain; others will always see him as the 'gangsta merked mistake making plonker who doesn't even deserve to be in the england squad'.

    I'll freely admit stupidity such as his organisation of the United Christmas party, and that damned merked program don't help, at all, but on the pitch i rate him as the best overall CB in the league and a great leader on the pitch too.

    Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Terry was made the full time captain again when the competitive games come round, I remember reading that Capello would use a few captains to see how each responded.


  • #8
    lordgoat
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    Mr Alan wrote: »
    hopefully he remembers to bring his jaffa cakes to the big night.

    I think him and torress finished them just before he was subbed off on sunday, over a nice cup od tea and a chat. Rio put an arm around him and said listen you don't mind that nasty steve bennet booking you, i'm your friend Fernando. Now blow your nose and have a biscuit.


  • #9
    ibh
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    lordgoat wrote: »
    I think him and torress finished them just before he was subbed off on sunday, over a nice cup od tea and a chat. Rio put an arm around him and said listen you don't mind that nasty steve bennet booking you, i'm your friend Fernando. Now blow your nose and have a biscuit.

    Sounds like you've been thinking about Rio and Nando's little tea party quite a lot.. Quite strange i have to say..


  • #10
    PHB
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    Rio is the future United and England captain imo.

    I think he'll be England captain because he personifies what Capello will want from England, skill more than heart. Terry is a great leader, but he is an English player in every sense of the word. Ferdinand is a continential defender. He has been Uniteds captain for the season anyway on the pitch, and look how they are doing.

    Also, I think the captain is between Terry and Ferdinand. Why? Because of the others mentioned, I'd say that they are the only ones that Capello has defo decided he will always play.
    The position of the keeper, RB, CM, RW, LW, 2nd Striker are all up for grabs.
    The only other players imo guaranteed their game under England are Rooney and Ashley Cole. Everything else is open, and if you have a captain, you can't drop him, hence why it'll be Ferdinand or Terry.


  • #11
    Mr. Incognito
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    Probably a good decision. Takes a few of the bigger ego's down a notch and highlights the emphasis on defence that England have been lacking.


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  • #12
    BaZmO*
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    Tauren wrote: »
    I'll be staying out of this thread


    You sure about that?


  • #13
    Mikeyt086
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Maybe its because Rudeboi Rio has connections in the ghetto if stuff turns sour. Innit blad.

    Nah, i think its a poor decision, Terry or Gerrard should be captain but again, i dont really care.


  • #14
    shane86
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    Id have picked someone else, but who cares, captain is largely honorary tbh. The only bad side about having a permanent captain is that he gets his game no matter what (like, oh, this Tallaght guy on this team I take the odd look at). Apart from that its all egos.

    God I hope they lose tomorrow, might take some of the wind out of their sails. I dunno but for me the whole Fabio thing is nothing but hype. Maybe its because the media are already dreaming of 7-0 victories all the way to the 2010 final but tbh Id sooner have Il Trap. Capello proved his Van Basten-like pettyness re his sidelining of Beckham in Madrid (yes, I know there are more opinions and angles on it than there are holes on the moon, but that is mine). I dont predict anything special from England tbh.

    Tomorrow Id reckon scoreless draw or 1-0 England.


  • #15
    flahavaj
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    He's a far better choice than Terry or Gerrard. Gerrard has let England down on numerous occasions and at this stage scarcely warrants a place in their starting eleven not to mind be their leader. When he was captain last, against Croatia he went missing completely on a night when he was needed more than ever. If you haven't seen much of Stevie lately you should probably look in Paul Scholes or Anderson's pockets, he's been hiding there since Sunday.:)

    As for Terry, he's just a nasty piece of work. Haraunging referees at every turn, mouthing off incessantly at opponens, throwing tantrums with Messrs Drogba and Lampard when things don't go his way. Any man who repeatedly cries like a baby when his team is found out on the football pitch is far from leadership material. He's a classless thug.


  • #16
    Fratton Fred
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    shane86 wrote: »
    God I hope they lose tomorrow, might take some of the wind out of their sails. I dunno but for me the whole Fabio thing is nothing but hype. Maybe its because the media are already dreaming of 7-0 victories all the way to the 2010 final but tbh Id sooner have Il Trap. Capello proved his Van Basten-like pettyness re his sidelining of Beckham in Madrid (yes, I know there are more opinions and angles on it than there are holes on the moon, but that is mine). I dont predict anything special from England tbh.

    Which is sooo different from the Irish Media and O'Trap :D new era, new hope and all that. Give it a few weeks for the realisation to sink in they are still a glorified bunch of over paid prima donna pansies who have no spirit, soul or pride and normal service will be resumed, both sides of the Irish sea.

    I was surprised at Rio getting it, not that I am particularly bothered. I thought Beckham would get honourary captain for the night.


  • #17
    leninbenjamin
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    is Terry really a born leader, or is he just a loud-mouthed aggressive thug? apparently Capello thinks the latter. he was supposedly really really put off by Terry's on field behaviour and his continuous dissent, and would seemingly rather give the captaincy to anyone else, even though Terry is the obvious choice for any manager.


  • #18
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Which is sooo different from the Irish Media and O'Trap :D new era, new hope and all that. Give it a few weeks for the realisation to sink in they are still a glorified bunch of over paid prima donna pansies who have no spirit, soul or pride and normal service will be resumed, both sides of the Irish sea.
    Troll tbh.

    Oirland are brilliant, we only did so shít because the last manager wasn't up to it.

    The players are feckin' brilliant. OK?

    GioTrap is going to make us the best team evar.


  • #19
    Fratton Fred
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    DesF wrote: »
    Troll tbh.

    Oirland are brilliant, we only did so shít because the last manager wasn't up to it.

    The players are feckin' brilliant. OK?

    GioTrap is going to make us the best team evar.

    ok, I'll let Brazil know not to bother turning up for the next world cup :D


  • #20
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    ok, I'll let Brazil know not to bother turning up for the next world cup :D
    Not just Brazil tbh.

    England too :)


  • #21
    Fratton Fred
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    DesF wrote: »
    Not just Brazil tbh.

    England too :)

    they already know that, but that has nothing to do with Ireland :rolleyes::D


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  • #22
    Beanmachine
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    A captain doesn't have to be loud mouthed or agressive he does however have to be determined,passionate and have immense leadership qualities i'm not saying Terry doesn't have these attributes but he does have the first two which are unnecessary in my opioion.

    Rio has really matured in the last two seasons and is playing out of his skin week in week out for United and i think he fully deserves the captaincy for the match tomorrow.


  • #23
    shane86
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Which is sooo different from the Irish Media and O'Trap :D

    tbh the Irish fans and media at this stage merely hope he can secure qualification. The In-ger-land media machine already thinks they are playing Brazil in the final tomorrow having seen off the Argies, zee Germans and anyone else they dont like. The hype over a manager who, as said, has a Van Basten-like record for vendettas and agendas is laughable. Ive a feeling it is Mouhino related. We had Jose, the never smiling cool as ice **** yis all Mediterranean manager, now England gets the same.

    Pettyness possibly cost Holland advancement in 06. It possibly will cause England the same in 2010, assuming they make it. If I were English I wouldnt fancy the appointment at all tbh.
    DesF wrote: »
    Troll tbh.

    Moi?

    Just telling it how I think!
    Oirland are brilliant, we only did so shít because the last manager wasn't up to it.

    The players are feckin' brilliant. OK?

    GioTrap is going to make us the best team evar.


    By that logic (of the manager not mattering, its all the players) Stan would win the treble if he were managing Man U or Chelsea. Avram Grant has already shown that having a load of pre bought world class players under your command means little if you cnt inspire/man-mage like Jose did.


  • #24
    smemon
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    Ferdinand has turned in to a fine leader at the back for Utd the past few seasons.

    I think Terry has blown it as an england player, he's never lived up to the Chelsea player we all know.

    I don't think he can handle being in a side with bigger characters and voices than his i.e. Rio, Beckham etc..

    He's much quieter in an england shirt and not as dominant imo. Confidence thing.


  • #25
    OPENROAD
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    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    Which is sooo different from the Irish Media and O'Trap :D new era, new hope and all that. Give it a few weeks for the realisation to sink in they are still a glorified bunch of over paid prima donna pansies who have no spirit, soul or pride and normal service will be resumed, both sides of the Irish sea.

    .

    Exactly agree.

    To Shane86, the Irish media are the exact same regarding the Irish team, no different to English imo, sure posters on this board getting all excited about the new Irish era, new hope etc. Watching the Irish media coverage of the Irish team,they are just as bad,Dunphy building up the the Irish players countless times.


  • #26
    Peyton Manning
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    Terry is a good player, but Ive never bought into the hype that he is one of the best defenders in the world. Struggle to make the top 10 in my opinion. Himself and several other Chelsea players were made to look world class when Makelele was in that defensive midfield position. He broke up so many attacks and his defensive play was world class, which made Terry, Carvalho, even Peter Cech look more formidable. It also meant Lampard never had to track back, whicbh is good as he is an extremely one dimensional player, and for me, Makelele was the key to Lampards world player of the year nomination and indeed Chelsea's success under Mourinho.


  • #27
    _blank_
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    shane86 wrote: »
    Moi?
    Missed this earlier.

    Nope, not you.

    I was gently ribbing Fred.


  • #28
    Xavi6
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    "His name is Rio, he does drugs and then gets banned...."

    England captain? Meh whatever really. It's only an armband really. Sure even Robbie Keane gets one.


  • #29
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    Xavi6 wrote: »
    It's only an armband really.
    :(

    And here's me thinking you thought it was an "honour" to captain a side.

    Hmph.


  • #30
    Xavi6
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    DesF wrote: »
    :(

    And here's me thinking you thought it was an "honour" to captain a side.

    Hmph.

    It is when you are given it based on your captain qualities. Unfortunately the likes of Keane have made a mockery of the role. I mean come on, Ronaldo was captain for United against Derby. Great player yes, but captain material? Not a chance.


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  • #31
    Xavi6
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    Exclusive! First pic of Rio as skipper! :D:p -

    http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii248/Xavi6/Rio.jpg


    Discalimer: In no way do I believe Rio is directly linked to this image. It is merely a joke


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