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Shannon Matthews found alive!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    Apparently a woman saw Shannon near the flat the day she disappeared and also saw a towel nearby (Shannon had been swimming.) but didn't tell the police until the day, or just before that day, the police found her.

    It's a strange case alright, and it being a money scam had crossed my mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    It beggers belief the 3 or 4 people phoned the police 3 days after shannon went missing and pointed there suspicions at the uncle .

    TIP-OFFS FROM PUBLIC IGNORED from Sunday Mirror

    Bungling police missed chance after chance to nail Shannon's kidnapper.

    Chance One: Officers were given suspect Mick Donovan's name and address three days after she went missing, but did not check his flat.

    Family friend Ryan Baynes said he suspected Donovan after he saw him bouncing Shannon on his knee at a funeral. He said: "Each time I called police I was told it was being 'looked into'."

    Chance Two: A neighbour gave them the same name over a week ago, but detectives still failed to act.

    Melvyn Glew, who lives just 50 yards from the flat where Shannon was found, said: "I called the helpline and told them I thought he had something to do with the girl's disappearance but no-one got back in touch."

    Chance Three: A simple computer record check would have revealed Donovan had been remanded in jail for three weeks in 2006 on an abduction charge before being cleared of any wrong-doing.

    Donovan spent three weeks inside category B Forest Bank Prison in Manchester before the charges were dropped, contrary to reports this week that he had abducted another child.

    Police had also been given Donovan's name by the charity Missing People earlier this week.

    Instead they focused on Shannon's uncle Martin Matthews, who was quizzed seven times and had his house searched five times. He told the Sunday Mirror: "I felt like the number one suspect.

    "The police thought I had met Shannon from school, but actually found CCTV footage of me in a supermarket at the time Shannon would have been leaving school.

    "I feel dirty. I'm glad it's all over and Shannon is safe and well but it makes me feel degraded.

    "I could understand where police were coming from at first - they needed to delve deeper, but they got it so wrong."

    Police only acted on Friday when they realised that Ryan Baynes' information matched that given by Donovan's neighbour, who claimed she had heard children's footsteps in the flat above - even though no children lived there.
    Originally Posted by Tha Gopher
    Having said that, it is the UK. A country which has given these celebrity mother of the year awards to Jordan (she who has a son suffering from a multitude of illness likely caused by drinking during pregnancy)


    According to reports in today sunday independent She seems to think that her new born daughters red hair is some kind of disease .Stupid cow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    Whether or not it was a scam to make money, an innocent 9 year old (regardless of how rough/big/bold/common etc..) has still been made suffer. The poor little thing. She was still locked away by an adult who she apparently trusted and kept away from her family for almost a month. No nine year old should have to face an ordeal like this. While many of the jokes here are clever, witty, funny etc, I still think it's great to hear that she is ok. At the end of the day, we've got to remember that regardless of who her mother is or how many half brothers and sisters she has, she was an innocent victim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    The victims of broken homes are usually the ones who suffer the most and take the balme for all that goes wrong in their lifes .How long before they start blaming the child for the adults f--k up's ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,839 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Now, apparently she may not even have known she was kidnapped.:confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 lissy


    No Way - where'd you see that? Kinda makes sense. Maybe she ran away and the "uncle" took her in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    lissy wrote: »
    No Way - where'd you see that? Kinda makes sense. Maybe she ran away and the "uncle" took her in?

    right, so he took her in and stuck her under the FOOKING BED?:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    right, so he took her in and stuck her under the FOOKING BED?:eek:

    I doubt very much that she was under the bed all that time! She was under the bed when she was found in an attempt to hide her.

    It's quite possible, if she had a good relationship with the man, that she was not aware that she had been abducted.


  • Posts: 31,828 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    janeybabe wrote: »
    I doubt very much that she was under the bed all that time! She was under the bed when she was found in an attempt to hide her.

    It's quite possible, if she had a good relationship with the man, that she was not aware that she had been abducted.
    The stockholm syndrome springs to mind!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,839 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    lissy wrote: »
    No Way - where'd you see that? Kinda makes sense. Maybe she ran away and the "uncle" took her in?

    BBC News, Sky News. And it is not being referred to an "Alleged Abduction" now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ReignInBlack


    Not to sound like an ignorant hateful person,but if that thing was my child I wouldnt want it back..I'd pay to get rid of it..though maybe that's just cos I hate children in general..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭togster


    Not to sound like an ignorant hateful person,

    Fail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 lissy


    right, so he took her in and stuck her under the FOOKING BED?:eek:

    I strongly doubt she was in a drawer of a bed for 24 days, my understanding of it was they were both hiding in there when the police broke in. Apparently neighbours heard a kid laughing on a few occasions but assumed it was his girlfriends kid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ReignInBlack


    togster wrote: »
    Fail

    Epically?:D


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sounds like the greatest game of hide 'n go seek ever TBH.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    the guy sounds dodge though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Sounds like the greatest game of hide 'n go seek ever TBH.

    She's not a patch on maddy, 10 months and still going strong....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Not to sound like an ignorant hateful person
    Oh, of course "not".
    if that thing was my child I wouldnt want it back..I'd pay to get rid of it
    STFU and don't post anything like that again. I'd be worried about myself if a thought like that went through my head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    6 March 2008
    WAS IT A HOAX?
    EXCLUSIVE
    By Paul Lewis

    The disappearance and miraculous return of troubled schoolgirl Shannon Matthews was being investigated as a possible HOAX last night.

    Cops are working on one startling theory that the hapless nine-year-old could have been the victim of an extraordinary scam.

    The scared youngster, who was found trembling at the home of loner Mick Donovan, 39, on Friday, had been the subject of a £50,000 reward for her safe return. Police are also considering the possibility that Shannon ran away from home in Dewsbury, West Yorks, because she was so unhappy.

    A third line of inquiry is that the vulnerable youngster was abducted.

    Last night specialist detectives were gently quizzing the youngster in front of video cameras in the hope she could shed newlight on the mystery of her disappearance.

    One officer said: "There are many theories we are investigating because, at the moment, it is very unclear.

    "We don't want to push the young girl too far because we just don't know what she has been through over the last few weeks."

    Donovan, formerly known as Paul Drake and the uncle of Shannon's 22-year-old stepdad, has apparently been seen leaving his flat in Batley Carr, Dewsbury, on his own on several occasions over the past few weeks.

    This has fuelled speculation that Shannon was NOT held against her will. Last night Donovan was still under arrest.

    The money-making scam theory was backed up by former top cop John Stalker.

    He told The People: "The arrest of a family member throws up difficult questions.

    Distasteful as it will be, police must seriously examine whether connivance in a manufactured disappearance of Shannon may be a feature.

    "The Madeleine McCann case and the massive funds it raised will not have gone unnoticed by less scrupulous people."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,700 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    Tha Gopher wrote: »
    Uh huhhh.

    She was drinking heavily when having the kid. It would be a pretty big coincidence if it was not partly to blame.


    Maybe that might have something to do with her having 7 kids by 5 fathers
    (the village bike springs to mind)
    To be honest she doesn't look capable of looking after herself let alone kids. Maybe it was in the best interests of the child to be put into care.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 13,426 ✭✭✭✭Ginny


    Tha Gophers uninformed post was about Jordan and her disabled son.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    Interesting article from todays UK Times

    We just don’t get it, do we? We have simply no idea, us douce middle classes, what the Shannon Matthews story is about. We’ve watched the saga unfold, first with the polite concern we would feel for any missing child, then with mild amazement when she was found alive. We’re delighted there’s been something we can imagine is a fairytale ending, especially so because now we don’t have to feel guilty any more about how little we care.

    We don’t understand. At no point have we grasped the horrifying scale of emotional poverty and chaos that Shannon’s story reveals, because we are as removed from that kind of poverty as we are from events in Afghanistan.

    For life among the white working class of Dewsbury looks like a foreign country. And because we don’t live there, and are never likely to, we have no concept of the reality in which hundreds of thousands of British children, just like Shannon, grow up.

    Since 1997 the middle classes have heard Gordon Brown chunter on about his goals for ending child poverty in Britain, but they have done so with a profound lack of engagement. Poverty? In modern Britain? Yeah, yeah, we all know what that’s really about, don’t we? Feckless parents who waste all their money on widescreen TVs and booze and don’t have enough left for the children. We know the type. But the truth is, we don’t have a clue what modern social deprivation means.

    Poverty has a new face now, and it’s called Shannon Matthews. What her sad little story has destroyed, possibly for ever, is the convenient middle-class myth of coherent, material poverty. Instead, it has revealed that what devastates the lives of modern children is something altogether much worse – inner poverty; poverty of the soul.

    Although clothed and fed, often with a parent or a stepparent in work, children in Shannon’s world have to exist in a state of pervasive, low-level psychological chaos that is beyond the remedy of any social worker. There are no state palliatives for emotional neglect; or an endemic lack of emotional stability. There is absolutely no cure for the horrors of growing up with adults who exist in a state of permanent volatility.

    In a world such as Shannon’s, there are no certainties other than the fact that there are no certainties.

    These children are not like our children. Their parents are not adults we would recognise as adults. The children do not come home from school to someone to ask them how their day was. Many are denied anything but fleeting attention, interest and stimulation.

    Many, furthermore, spend their lives trying to be invisible in order to cope with the adults in the house – hostile boyfriends; stressed, angry mothers. Any children’s charity will tell you that the biggest threat to children comes from violent boyfriends and lovers; from mothers, in other words, who prioritise their own relationships over their children.

    Add to this households where drink and drug abuse by adults is a common factor, and you begin to see how scary and unstable some children’s lives are.

    What was so telling about Shannon’s story, so far as it has been revealed, is that her abduction was not the extremely rare act by a stranger, but allegedly by someone she knew. Someone from this lost society in which adults, damaged and isolated, are incapable of adult responsiblities. Most children know those who harm them. Shannon was found concealed in the house of the extended relative – the uncle of her mother’s boyfriend; someone who had apparently played with her at a recent family funeral. Did the nine-year-old go off with someone she knew because he had offered her kindness in the past? Neighbours near to where she was found have spoken of hearing a child laughing and the sound of light footsteps.

    Indeed, there were suggestions yesterday that other members from the little girl’s vast, complex network of fragmented family may have been involved. Only time will tell to what degree this was a sinister act, or simply a manifestation of inappropriate behaviour within a dysfunctional family group.

    Reports say that Shannon was unhappy at home. She was described as a shy, quiet girl and her maternal grandparents have alleged that not only was her mother, their daughter, unfit to care, but that her live-in boyfriend was violent to the children. He denies this, and other family members support him.

    Whatever the truth, there is little doubt the family was chaotic. Shannon’s mother, with seven children from five or even six different fathers – choose which paper to believe – cared for four of them aged between 11 and 2. The others lived with their natural fathers.

    Before she disappeared Shannon scribbled a note on her bedroom wall saying that she wanted to live with her father, a man who – fitting perfectly into the pattern of her fractured familial life – lived a short distance away but did not appear to see her with any regularity. Did anyone, we are entitled to wonder, offer this little girl the basic attention and stability a child craves?

    Shannon’s story is not, thankfully, a tragedy on the scale of Milly Dowler or Sarah Payne. But it is a tragedy nevertheless – a totemic little tale of everyday childhood misery in Britain, illustrative of so much more widespread suffering. Yes, the child has been found alive, but there is no real fairytale ending. To what does she return? To which version of least chaos? There is no happy-ever-after, and as her name fades from the headlines, and the privileged classes go back to pampering our own beloved offspring, I hope the memory of poor little Shannon stays with us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Channel 4 have an exclusive tonight at 9pm:

    Shannon Matthews: The Family's Story
    Documentary promising to give a unique insight into the personal turmoil experienced by the family of Shannon Matthews, whose disappearance and subsequent rescue made national headlines.

    Did anyone see the News At 10 bit when they gave the family a camcorder when the news was broken? They were all smoking and drinking in the house like crazy and off their heads. The kids were among all the adults playing games on the computer.

    This should be car-crash tv. I think the media are just exploiting them... I wonder if the family are given a nice financial sum for this? Probably a crate of blue wicked and carling.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Latest development...
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1311474,00.html

    The stepfather of schoolgirl Shannon Matthews has been arrested on suspicion of possessing indecent images of children.

    Craig Meehan was detained after West Yorkshire Police examined a number of computers during the search for the nine-year-old, who went missing for nearly four weeks.

    The 22-year-old is currently being questioned by detectives.

    Sky News correspondent Gerard Tubb said: "The photographs are not of Shannon and the allegations that Craig Meehan downloaded the photographs are not connected to the disappearance of Shannon."

    Meehan lives with Shannon's mother Karen Matthews at Moorside Road in Dewsbury Moor.

    Shannon disappeared on her way home from a school swimming trip on February 19.

    She was found 24 days later at the house of Meehan's uncle in Batley Carr, a mile from her home.

    Michael Donovan, 39, of Lidgate Gardens, Dewsbury, was later charged with Shannon's kidnapping and imprisonment.

    His trial has been provisionally set for November 11 at Leeds Crown Court.

    Hundreds of officers and 60 detectives were involved in the three-week search for Shannon.

    Shannon has not returned home since she was found


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭skywalker


    xzanti wrote: »
    Shannon has not returned home since she was found

    Am I the only one who finds that really odd? She was found, what 2 weeks ago, maybe more. The whole story definitely hasnt come out yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    skywalker wrote: »
    Am I the only one who finds that really odd? She was found, what 2 weeks ago, maybe more. The whole story definitely hasnt come out yet.

    She's still in care, and rightly so IMO.
    Did you see the footage of her home? He Mum and stepdad are a total mess, and the police must know more... and the latest story about him seems to indicate they did they right thing to keep her away from them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    When I think of this family.......I just think of the Jeremy Kyle show. God, the british social system is in a right mess.........questions is.........Is our own here in Ireland the same?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bradford/7326006.stm

    Detectives investigating the disappearance of Shannon Matthews have arrested her stepfather on suspicion of possessing indecent images of children.
    Craig Meehan, 22, was arrested after officers on the Shannon Matthews case carried out inspections on a number of computers.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    This story just gets more bizarre by the day http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1312086,00.html The mother has confessed to knowing where the child was the whole time :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Ha, the slovenly peons wont get their grubby mitts on a red cent now.


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