The new 7 deadly sins

heyjude · 11-03-2008 04:08PM

Wazdakka wrote: »

Me at pearly gates: "Hello St peter, Can I come in please?"
St Peter leafing through book: "Whats this? You put plastics into your paper Weelie bin... HELL FOR YOU BOY!!"

LOL

Are these new mortal sins retrospective or was it okay to be excessively wealthy in the past, for by making the possession of excessive wealth a mortal sin, will this not apply to many/most former popes ? Because for many centuries, the pope was among the wealthiest people on the planet. Also does this mean in future that leading churchmen will be less inclined to be pictured with such mortal sinners ? No, I didn't think so. :rolleyes:

Wazdakka · 11-03-2008 04:23PM

heyjude wrote: »

LOL

Are these new mortal sins retrospective or was it okay to be excessively wealthy in the past, for by making the possession of excessive wealth a mortal sin, will this not apply to many/most former popes ? Because for many centuries, the pope was among the wealthiest people on the planet. Also does this mean in future that leading churchmen will be less inclined to be pictured with such mortal sinners ? No, I didn't think so. :rolleyes:

Mark 10:25 "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven"

The church are always contradicting themselves.

Fad · 11-03-2008 04:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

experimentation with humans
Myself and the missus experiment a lot. Now it's a sin. Damn.
Well, I'm going to hell.

im quite certain that wasnt allowed to begin with *raises one eyebrow*

Archeron · 11-03-2008 04:32PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

As a mad scientist I object to the popes attempts to stifle science! Calling genetic modification a deadly sin, And why? Because I dared to dream …of my own race of atomic monsters! Atomic supermen with octagonal-shaped bodies that suck blood out of your eyes and have tentacles for legs.........

Please dont tell me you've given up on the Albino shouting gorilla idea?

Sam Vimes · 11-03-2008 04:34PM

4.experimentation with humans

so when developing a new medication, they're only allowed experiment on animals and then if those tests succeed, they have to give it to the entire population. if you give it to a restricted group first to test the effects, its considered experimentation and therefore evil

that or stop developing new medications

Fad · 11-03-2008 04:42PM

Sam Vimes wrote: »

4.experimentation with humans

so when developing a new medication, they're only allowed experiment on animals and then if those tests succeed, they have to give it to the entire population. if you give it to a restricted group first to test the effects, its considered experimentation and therefore evil

that or stop developing new medications

theres no point trying to reason with anything that the vatican has published in the last century,
in fact most things the church published in general:

take St Augustine Of Hippo- this asshat is responsible for the idea of ''original sin'', which he really just plucked out of his ass

mloc · 11-03-2008 04:43PM

Another 7 reasons why the catholic church is more irrelevant by the day.

IanCurtis · 11-03-2008 05:03PM

Fad wrote: »

take St Augustine Of Hippo- this asshat is responsible for the idea of ''original sin'', which he really just plucked out of his ass

Now that's just embarrassing.

Stark · 11-03-2008 05:19PM

Slow coach wrote: »

genetic modification

Does selective breeding count? Bye bye to bananas and terriers in that case.

bitemybanger · 11-03-2008 05:22PM

Apart from 2, im fcuked so:D

Stark · 11-03-2008 05:24PM

Slow coach wrote: »

polluting the environment

I can just see the new ending to "Se7en".

"Goddamnit man, the severed head goes in with the organic waste. Organic waste!".

one-angry-dwarf · 11-03-2008 05:33PM

So when do these new sins take effect? what i mean is, if someone died last week who was a good christian but just happened to enjoy a bit of the ol' genetic modification, presumably they would get into heaven because last week it wasn't forbidden and therefore ok? but if they died this week they'd be sent to hell? does it start from the moment his popeliness finishes his list. or maybe the moment he okays it with god? and presumably it takes a few days for word to get round all the catholics that the rules have changed, so what if you're modifying people's genetics all over the place for a while after the rule change but just havent heard about it yet?

I don't know. It all sounds a bit like pope Benny's just pulled this one out of his ass. But then again, what do I know? I mean he must be right. If anyone is in a position to judge people for causing social injustice it's a former member of the hitler youth.......right?

Stark · 11-03-2008 05:44PM

http://www.getreligion.org/?p=3265

It looks like things have been blown out of proportion.

Lockstep · 11-03-2008 06:11PM

Wazdakka wrote: »

Mark 10:25 "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven"

The church are always contradicting themselves.

I prefer Supply Side Jesus

"IT's easier for a rich man to enter heaven seated comfortably on the back of a camel than it is for a poor man to pass through the eye of a needle"
and "if you are prosperous on earth, it means God is rewarding your rugged indivdialism, if you are poor it's a sign God frowns on your reliance on handouts.

phasers · 11-03-2008 06:23PM

I am so going to hell

AlmightyCushion · 11-03-2008 06:30PM

Slow coach wrote: »

genetic modification

Doesn't background radiation cause genetic modification every day?

obscene wealth

So that billionaire guy who has said that when he dies he will be donating most of his money to charity is committing a sin?

Slow coach wrote: »

experimentation with humans

So that medical science screwed. Cancer isn't really all that bad.

taking drugs

I just had a cup of tea, that's me screwed.

polluting the environment

Every time we breath we turn oxygen into carbon dioxide and every time we fart we create methane so that's everyone screwed.

Drift · 11-03-2008 06:40PM

Slow coach wrote: »

So the Vatican has announced a new set of seven deadly sins:

Eh ... no they haven't. Such bastions of reporting accuracy as the Irish Independent have!

thelordofcheese · 11-03-2008 08:24PM

Archeron wrote: »

Please dont tell me you've given up on the Albino shouting gorilla idea?

Never!
No man will ever stop me from having my gorillas shout our love from the rooftops!

Pherekydes · 12-03-2008 01:27AM

Drift wrote: »

Eh ... no they haven't. Such bastions of reporting accuracy as the Irish Independent have!

catholicnews.com wrote:

Social effects of sin greater than ever, says Vatican official

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- In today's globalized culture, the social effects of sin are greater than ever before and deserve the church's urgent attention, a Vatican official said. New forms of sin have arisen in the area of biotechnology, economics and ecology, and many involve questions of individual rights and wider social effects, said Bishop Gianfranco Girotti. Bishop Girotti is an official of the Apostolic Penitentiary, an office that deals with questions relating to penance and indulgences. He made the comments in an interview March 8 with the Vatican newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano. Bishop Girotti said the sense of sin in today's world should be even more acute than before, since the effects of sin are often widespread. "If yesterday sin had a rather individualistic dimension, today it has an impact and resonance that is above all social, because of the great phenomenon of globalization," he said.

The original source is the Vatican Newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano.

catholic news

Orion · 12-03-2008 02:15AM

aidan_walsh wrote: »

So does this mean the old ones no longer count, or is this eight through fourteen?

It might even be 15 through 21. Didn't JP2 release his greatest hits as well? I seem to remember him coming up with bulimia being a deadly sin - or did he just include that in gluttony?

It's good to see that Herr Ratzinger is really with it. "Causing social injustice"? How sweeping is that? If I pass by a beggar and don't give any money that's me ****ed. And aren't having extreme wealth and causing poverty two sides of the same coin? And aren't his cult guilty of both?

Drift · 12-03-2008 02:57AM

Slow coach wrote: »

The original source is the Vatican Newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano.

Social effects of sin greater than ever, says Vatican official

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- In today's globalized culture, the social effects of sin are greater than ever before and deserve the church's urgent attention, a Vatican official said. New forms of sin have arisen in the area of biotechnology, economics and ecology, and many involve questions of individual rights and wider social effects, said Bishop Gianfranco Girotti. Bishop Girotti is an official of the Apostolic Penitentiary, an office that deals with questions relating to penance and indulgences. He made the comments in an interview March 8 with the Vatican newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano. Bishop Girotti said the sense of sin in today's world should be even more acute than before, since the effects of sin are often widespread. "If yesterday sin had a rather individualistic dimension, today it has an impact and resonance that is above all social, because of the great phenomenon of globalization," he said.

catholic news

See if you can find the words "Seven", or "Deadly" anywhere in the entire article. They were just added to the story by sensationalists to sell newspapers. What the good Bishop actually did was list some modern practices that are sins. Also if you check the actual sins he listed they aren't what newspapers and this thread claim them to be! Most of them have been altered slightly to fit what the media likes us to think of the church.

Peyton Manning · 12-03-2008 03:05AM

Excellent, murder and adultery are now PC.

Tusky · 12-03-2008 03:15AM

How can they just make up new rules like this ? Does god tell the pope during prayer to implement this new list of sins ?

I truly believe that one day people will look back on religion, as we look back on people in the stone ages using rocks as tools. Society and scientific advances will eventually make religion obsolete.

You do not need an ancient book to tell you what is morally right or wrong.

randylonghorn · 12-03-2008 03:46AM

Lol, tbh!! I'm a very long way from being a Vatican fanboy, but in fairness it looks like what was actually said and what was reported as being said were a hell of a long way apart!

Anyone like to start a malicious rumour that the kind of people who write this kind of crazy fodder for the papers can actually read at more than a 6th class level?

Peyton Manning · 12-03-2008 03:53AM

randylonghorn wrote: »

Lol, tbh!! I'm a very long way from being a Vatican fanboy, but in fairness it looks like what was actually said and what was reported as being said were a hell of a long way apart!

Anyone like to start a malicious rumour that the kind of people who write this kind of crazy fodder for the papers can actually read at more than a 6th class level?

To be honest, his literacy skills are quite good - he's been posting on boards for some time now.

randylonghorn · 12-03-2008 04:04AM

Archimedes wrote: »

To be honest, his literacy skills are quite good - he's been posting on boards for some time now.

Who?!

randylonghorn wrote: »

Anyone like to start a malicious rumour that the kind of people who write this kind of crazy fodder for the papers can actually read at more than a 6th class level?

I wasn't talking about Slow Coach!

Have you been imbibing and climbing walls again?

Peyton Manning · 12-03-2008 04:42AM

randylonghorn wrote: »

Who?!

6th.... You made a joke about somene reading above a 6th class level..... now I see mine may have been hard to comprehend.

randylonghorn · 12-03-2008 04:46AM

AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!1!!11!!

In fairness, I'll take half the blame and admit to being a bit of a slow coach in picking up on that one!

Pherekydes · 12-03-2008 08:47AM

Archimedes wrote: »

To be honest, his literacy skills are quite good - he's been posting on boards for some time now.

Hehe, I didn't write this 'crazy fodder'.

To be honest, drift is right. The '7 deadly sins' label was created by some hack, but the original idea about modern day sins is from the Vatican.

Hey, Newspaper in 'creates own headlines shock'!

Insect Overlord · 12-03-2008 11:07AM

Slow coach wrote: »

[*]experimentation with humans

Woah, God must really regret experimenting with that rib now...
(Genesis ftw)

The new 7 deadly sins

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