The new 7 deadly sins

Pherekydes · 11-03-2008 01:52PM #1

So the Vatican has announced a new set of seven deadly sins:

genetic modification
causing poverty
obscene wealth
experimentation with humans
taking drugs
polluting the environment
causing social injustice

So what ones do you fancy? Which have you committed/contributed to?

Do drink, ciggies and common medicines (Solpadiene, etc) count towards drug taking? If not I'm in the clear (except for the original 7 deadly sins - ah well)

Petey2006 · 11-03-2008 01:56PM

I need clarification on the whole 'experimentation with humans' issues. If you're experimenting sexually, it'd be a whole different issue if it wasn't with another human being...

If we used refrigerators that emitted CFCs and technically weren't environmentally friendly, does that count as a deadly sin?

11-03-2008 01:59PM

causing poverty
I cause my own poverty all the time. Does that count?
experimentation with humans
Myself and the missus experiment a lot. Now it's a sin. Damn.
polluting the environment
There's hardly any bins and I have to put my rubbish somewhere
causing social injustice
Does shouting a lot in public count?

Well, I'm going to hell.

Dord · 11-03-2008 02:01PM

Slow coach wrote: »

So the Vatican has announced a new set of seven deadly sins:
genetic modification

causing poverty

obscene wealth

experimentation with humans

taking drugs

polluting the environment

causing social injustice

So what ones do you fancy? Which have you committed/contributed to?

Do drink, ciggies and common medicines (Solpadiene, etc) count towards drug taking? If not I'm in the clear (except for the original 7 deadly sins - ah well)

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!! :rolleyes:

spadder · 11-03-2008 02:01PM

What about a few more?

8. refusing to acknowledge that condoms prevent the spread of AIDs especially in third world countries.

2 stroke · 11-03-2008 02:03PM

I notice theres no mention of paeodophilia, this must still be ok in the churches eyes.

Schism · 11-03-2008 02:06PM

Obscene wealth is bs. If someone works hard for their money they are entitled to have it and do with it as they please (within reason of course)

Irishcrx · 11-03-2008 02:07PM

I loose hope...I really do.

TPD · 11-03-2008 02:25PM

I'm loking forward to seeing the new Magnum Ice Cream line based on these seven sins.

Archeron · 11-03-2008 02:46PM

TPD wrote: »

I'm loking forward to seeing the new Magnum Ice Cream line based on these seven sins.

Especially if flatulence falls under the whole "polluting the environment" bit.

seamus · 11-03-2008 02:48PM

Seven more nails in the Catholic Church's coffin.

Keep 'em coming Ratzinger!

aidan_walsh · 11-03-2008 02:49PM

So does this mean the old ones no longer count, or is this eight through fourteen?

Adam · 11-03-2008 02:49PM

Joe Robot wrote: »

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!! :rolleyes:

That was the first thing I said when I heard them this morning. Hypocritical pr1cks piss me right off.

Heinrich · 11-03-2008 02:50PM

Earthworm Jim! wrote: »

Obscene wealth is bs. If someone works hard for their money they are entitled to have it and do with it as they please (within reason of course)

Obscene wealth must be the proceeds from pornography and prostitution.:p

Adam · 11-03-2008 02:51PM

Heinrich wrote: »

Obscene wealth must be the proceeds from pornography and prostitution.:p

Yore ma's in trouble so.

kmick · 11-03-2008 03:02PM

I wonder would the vaticans wealth be considered obscene?
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,833509,00.html

Spud83 · 11-03-2008 03:04PM

genetic modification
Not yet, but you never know what the future holds.
causing poverty
Programmer -> Make computer system -> Computer system replaces human -> Human Fired -> Causes Poverty?
obscene wealth
Depends on your definition of obscene is the fact I spend 500 euro on something that plays music obscene?
experimentation with humans
Who hasn't done this to some degree?
taking drugs
who me, never:o
polluting the environment
When ya gotta go, ya gotta go
causing social injustice
I'm confused, but I'm sure I have.

IanCurtis · 11-03-2008 03:37PM

Earthworm Jim! wrote: »

Obscene wealth is bs. If someone works hard for their money they are entitled to have it and do with it as they please (within reason of course)

They said "excessive" wealth, not 'obscene' and in fairness to the Vatican, the big man himself said this many years ago:

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)

I see the greedy Irish are still out in force :rolleyes:

orestes · 11-03-2008 03:39PM

Dammit, and I was nearly finished the last set too! TStunts like this is why I stopped buying Kinder eggs :mad:

seamus · 11-03-2008 03:42PM

IanCurtis wrote: »

They said "excessive" wealth, not 'obscene' and in fairness to the Vatican, the big man himself said this many years ago:

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)

I see the greedy Irish are still out in force :rolleyes:

Matthew wrote that at a time where people became rich mostly through birth, inheritance, slavery and dictatorial policies. He obviously saw the peasants as "purity" and the rich man as "evil" and wanted to try inject some humility into them.

In our modern world it is possible to be ridiculously wealthy *and* a very decent, very humble and generous person.

IanCurtis · 11-03-2008 03:44PM

seamus wrote: »

Matthew wrote that at a time where people became rich mostly through birth, inheritance, slavery and dictatorial policies. He obviously saw the peasants as "purity" and the rich man as "evil" and wanted to try inject some humility into them.

In our modern world it is possible to be ridiculously wealthy *and* a very decent, very humble and generous person.

I think you'll find Matthew was quoting Jesus there Seamus.

And I disagree - a man who is "ridiculously wealthy" by definition is not a generous person.

Jesus was spot-on.

Lockstep · 11-03-2008 03:47PM

by experimentation they mean morally debatable experiments.

But TBH most incredibely wealthy people aren't the most moral of people.

There are a few self made millionaires but plenty found ruthlessness and neoptism to work well.

seamus · 11-03-2008 03:49PM

IanCurtis wrote: »

I think you'll find Matthew was quoting Jesus there Seamus.

Yes, but he still wrote it because he saw some significance in writing it - some need to express the idea.

And I disagree - a man who is "ridiculously wealthy" by definition is not a generous person.

You can't save everybody. Just because you haven't given all of your money away, doesn't mean that you're stingy. By that definition, all of us are greedy and evil because we hold onto our own money. Have some spare cash and buy yourself a biscuit? EVIL!

Bill Gates has given away much of his wealth to needy causes but he is by every measure, still ridiculously wealthy. So you're saying he's not generous?

orestes · 11-03-2008 03:51PM

IanCurtis wrote: »

I think you'll find Matthew was quoting Jesus there Seamus.

And I disagree - a man who is "ridiculously wealthy" by definition is not a generous person.

Jesus was spot-on.

Bill Gates has given billions (that's billions, with a b) to charity, I'd call that pretty generous

IanCurtis · 11-03-2008 03:53PM

seamus wrote: »

Yes, but he still wrote it because he saw some significance in writing it.
You can't save everybody. Just because you haven't given all of your money away, doesn't mean that you're stingy. By that definition, all of us are greedy and evil because we hold onto our own money. Have some spare cash and buy yourself a biscuit? EVIL!

Bill Gates has given away much of his wealth to needy causes but he is by every measure, still ridiculously wealthy. So you're saying he's not generous?

The key word is "excessive" and I reckon that is up to the individual to define.

None of us, including myself, would give away every penny we don't absolutely need to those who do, but that is what Christians should do.

They're the supreme socialists, but that's a different discussion

Wazdakka · 11-03-2008 03:55PM

Yay, Once again even while trying to modernize itself the church has set unachievable levels of obedience required for soul saving

1.genetic modification

Try going a week without eating GM foods.. Even when you put serious effort into it, tis bloody impossible... Bar growing all your own veggies and slaughtering your own animals... Oh and fish on Fridays obviously

2.causing poverty
3.obscene wealth

Ahhhh I knew it.. Capatilism just isn't for the Vatican... They want us all to be communist. No poverty or wealth. Well at least we can rest easy that if we ever do make it up to the cloud sitting, winged harp playing, both Stalin and Lenin will be there to keep us company.

4.experimentation with humans

Hmmm a bit open ended that one...
So does that just cover atrocious scientific practices or does it include consenting sexual practices, or even market research??? :rolleyes:

5.taking drugs

I just dont think its even worth bothering to point out the state that mankind would be in without pharmaceuticals.

6.polluting the environment

Me at pearly gates: "Hello St peter, Can I come in please?"
St Peter leafing through book: "Whats this? You put plastics into your paper Weelie bin... HELL FOR YOU BOY!!"

[7.causing social injustice

Thats the best thing about Social injustice... Its defined by the masses...
Now I refuse to believe that the masses of the world are honestly buying this load of tripe....

Well done there Vatican.
another home run.

Pastafarianism ftw!

Defenestrate · 11-03-2008 04:01PM

8) Breaking wind on the DART or in a club. Dirty buggers. :mad:

WindSock · 11-03-2008 04:03PM

I thought Abortion and Paedophilia were on that new list?

thelordofcheese · 11-03-2008 04:03PM

Slow coach wrote: »

So the Vatican has announced a new set of seven deadly sins:
genetic modification

causing poverty

obscene wealth

experimentation with humans

taking drugs

polluting the environment

causing social injustice

So what ones do you fancy? Which have you committed/contributed to?

Do drink, ciggies and common medicines (Solpadiene, etc) count towards drug taking? If not I'm in the clear (except for the original 7 deadly sins - ah well)

As a mad scientist I object to the popes attempts to stifle science! Calling genetic modification a deadly sin, And why? Because I dared to dream …of my own race of atomic monsters! Atomic supermen with octagonal-shaped bodies that suck blood out of your eyes and have tentacles for legs.........

IanCurtis · 11-03-2008 04:04PM

At least they're trying, but I agree they're hopelessly out of touch.

They may be hopelessly losing the battle too.

Time for a Second Coming methinks.

Lockstep · 11-03-2008 04:08PM

Fair play to His Holiness for bringing up these issues.

The new 7 deadly sins

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