Will Arsenal throw it away?

mike65 · 01-03-2008 11:40AM #1

Okay its only 3 points this time not Keegans 12 but does anyone else think that Arsenal are looking set to crumble in front of our eyes? Wenger at it again today - seeing injustice at every turn, his captian William Gallas behaving in a most uncaptainly fashion, some flakey performances and poor results in recent times. Some players not quite at the same level as before Christmas.

Mike.

PHB · 01-03-2008 11:47AM

Wenger imo is feeling the pressure, hence why he is trying to make out like they are being fouled non-stop, like every foul against Arsenal's beautiful football is like killing a puppy.

I don't think it's Arsenals to throw away. I don't think its anyones to throw away, it's still completely up in the air.

Raekwon · 01-03-2008 12:11PM

They certainly seem to have hit a slight sticky patch at the moment, hopefully Villa can take advantage and collect all 3 points this afternoon

grames_bond · 01-03-2008 12:33PM

you never know what could happen, sure they are goin through a rough patch but they could bounce back and be stronger than ever!!

Dave! · 01-03-2008 12:57PM

April 13th will be an important date!

Although every match til the end of the season is important. None of the top teams can afford to drop points.

Keano · 01-03-2008 01:40PM

Raekwon wrote: »

They certainly seem to have hit a slight sticky patch at the moment, hopefully Villa can take advantage and collect all 3 points this afternoon

I think Villa will run them close and may even steal a point

IMO United will win the league.

PS I am not a United supporter!

cson · 01-03-2008 01:49PM

The next round of top 4 games will decide it. Sort the men from the boys etc. I can't see draws, it'll be at the **** or bust stage of the season then.

Galvasean · 01-03-2008 01:52PM

I have abad feeling Chelski will nick it... Look at them, waiting in the wings... always watching! :eek:

LegacyUser · 01-03-2008 01:54PM

Arsenal in my opinion have thrown it away...at this moment in time

Momentum is in Utds favour I feel and if Utd don't take advantage, it's Arsenals league.

Dubit10 · 01-03-2008 01:56PM

Cant see Arsenal throwing it away at this stage.They have the best squad in the league with no weak links in the team at all.

AARRRGH · 01-03-2008 02:05PM

Villa are great at the moment. I can't see Arsenal winning, and I can defo see Man U thrashing Fulham today.

PHB · 01-03-2008 02:20PM

Arsenal have some very clear weakeness in their squads.
Their backup full backs are not up to the required class, and they have a striker injury crisis at the moment, Eduardo is a big loss, as is Van Persie

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 01-03-2008 02:30PM

cheesedude wrote: »

Arsenal in my opinion have thrown it away...at this moment in time

They drew one game!

I don't think it was ever completely Arsenals to lose, i mean its not like they were 10 points ahead for half the season or something. That said matches like the one today against Villa are going to be very important for gaining some momentum. Then as cson says the next round of 'grandslam' games will be the main decider in the race, and i still fear that United are gonna knick it in the long run

PHB · 01-03-2008 02:40PM

If United or Arsenal win all of their remaining games, they will win the league. Same is almost true for Chelsea

Dave! · 01-03-2008 02:46PM

I've backed Villa! :eek: No half measure draws, pffft :rolleyes: COME ON LADS!!!

leninbenjamin · 01-03-2008 03:12PM

PHB wrote: »

Arsenal have some very clear weakeness in their squads.
Their backup full backs are not up to the required class, and they have a striker injury crisis at the moment, Eduardo is a big loss, as is Van Persie

United and Arsenal have almost identical squads really. i don't buy this. United are just as vulnerable to injuries in key areas as Arsenal are. and no doubt Arsenal are being put under more media pressure than United or Chelsea ever have in recent years, i think this season is going to be a real testimony as to the impact the media can have on the final standings.

PHB · 01-03-2008 03:24PM

United have similar squads, but they are different.
United certainly have more strength in defence and in midfield. Arsenal have more strength up front.
However, United's injuries this year have been spread out, while Arsenal have been unlucky and they are down to the 2nd(maybe 1st) and 4th choice strikers. Also they have gotten an injury to their best defender, Toure, which you can't replace, just like if Ferdinand was injuried.
United however are pretty much injury free bar Neville, Foster and Silvestre, the latter two who wouldn't be playing much.

Similar squads, but United's has more depth at the back and in midfield, especially in the full back areas. This is especially important for Arsenal because of how they play, because if their full backs can't both attack and defend, the system is very vulnerable. After Clichy and the amazing Sagna, there isn't a huge amount of quality there, especially in terms of defense.

leninbenjamin · 01-03-2008 03:39PM

PHB wrote: »

After Clichy and the amazing Sagna, there isn't a huge amount of quality there, especially in terms of defense.

but have United that much more than them in defence? both teams have an excellent starting back 4... after that you're talking about inconsistent squad players and unproven promising youth really. neither team has an abundance players jostling for that starting slot...

Rikand · 01-03-2008 03:47PM

PHB wrote: »

, like every foul against Arsenal's beautiful football is like killing a puppy.

oh my god people! please think of the puppies!

PHB · 01-03-2008 04:23PM

leninbenjamin wrote: »

but have United that much more than them in defence? both teams have an excellent starting back 4... after that you're talking about inconsistent squad players and unproven promising youth really. neither team has an abundance players jostling for that starting slot...

Second choice back 4

United:

O'Shea - Pique - Brown - Silvestre

Arsenal:

Hoyte/Eboue - Senderos - Djouro - Traore

United's is much better, the only one with any real experience in Arsenals is Senderos, and he's not up to Browns standards, and Pique imo is a better player than him.
Much more experience and depth in United's defence, Arsenal are relying on youth players there, and defence isn't a place for youth imo.

~Rebel~ · 01-03-2008 04:28PM

PHB wrote: »

the only one with any real experience in Arsenals is Senderos, and he's not up to Browns standards

heh just after you say that senderos scores an og

mike65 · 01-03-2008 04:29PM

I knew it

Mike.

PHB · 01-03-2008 04:29PM

I'm like mystic meg today

LegacyUser · 01-03-2008 05:21PM

Dubit10 wrote: »

Cant see Arsenal throwing it away at this stage.They have the best squad in the league with no weak links in the team at all.

Are you taking the piss?

OPENROAD · 01-03-2008 08:14PM

Still loads of games to be played, we are going through a bit of a bad patch at the moment but I still expect Utd to drop points also. We looked down and out today but grabbed a late goal to get a point, so we are still top, we have some key injuries at the moment but hopefully over the next couple of weeks we will get the likes of RVP and Rosicky back. I still think we will win it and expect us to take all three point at OT.

grames_bond · 02-03-2008 01:58PM

OPENROAD wrote: »

I still think we will win it and expect us to take all three point at OT.

really? you EXPECT it? gettin slightly cocky there arent we?!

DSB · 02-03-2008 02:22PM

grames_bond wrote: »

really? you EXPECT it? gettin slightly cocky there arent we?!

Uhhhhh???????

Unearthly · 02-03-2008 02:23PM

Hate that phrase "throw it away"

Just because you had better form earlier doesn't mean you are entitled to the league. Arsenal never had the league won when they went 5 points ahead.

The way this season is going I will expect Man Utd and Arsenal to drop points along the way

smemon · 02-03-2008 02:51PM

Well i always thought arsenal were punching above their weight...

They got off to a flying start which is why they are where they are. It gave them the confidence to attack and play their normal game - they were never under pressure.

Out of the FA Cup, dodgy looking tie in the champions league, and now pressure on in the league, i'd expect Arsenal to finish trophyless this season.

There's something about them that they lack.. i think it's just mental strength and maturity/temper control... highlighted by Gallas' stupidity when that penalty was being taken...

I would have love to have seen it saved and the rebound tapped in.

Even if we go back to the Van Nistelrooy thing, or more recent the Nani dribbling thing - the Arsenal players seem to lack control or maturity to cope with defeat.

DSB · 02-03-2008 03:09PM

Wigan away and Middlesbrough at home are the perfect 2 games for them to get back on track. This debate about when Arsenal will throw it away has been going on since the start of the season basically, 10 games left and they're still top, it really could go either way, but I don't see it ending before the last 2 games of the season. That wouldn't be Arsenal throwing anything away, thats how close its been since the beginning.

grames_bond · 02-03-2008 03:38PM

we have to look at it this way, its not arsenals to throw away, 1 point is not enough to say its theirs, three teams are within a very good shout of winnin it, going to be a great run in!

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