Rovers Stadium Decision

Mushy · 25-01-2008 11:21PM

patmac wrote: »

At the risk of ridicule from a previous thread, can anyone provide a link or prove that this whole sorry mess is clearly supported by the Dublin County Board and by the GAA nationally, because no GAA club outside Dublin ever heard or voted or went to congress to back this, that I know of.

Exactly(about the whole no other county thing)!

OhNoYouDidnt wrote:

GAA are centrally paying the bill.

Where exactly does it say this?

If thats the case, there should be murder over it. Personally I feel that thats just favourtism for Dublin club(in GAA of course). It wont really matter anyway, €400k isnt too much to them, but just on principle, eith TD or DCB should cough it up.

applehunter · 25-01-2008 11:31PM

/Andy\ wrote: »

Seriously, this thread is sickening because of the typically lowbrow gloating of some soccer fans (in inverted commas). The soccer forum charter clearly states that the word scum is abusive yet it's used more than once here to refer to a rival association, DesF etc, without any bans? I like soccer as much as the next person but couldn't care less about ANY LoI team, and I'm localish to this stadium. That said I would have been glad for Rovers simply because as a GAA man, we don't need some tiny ground in Tallaght, but now I just wish their hooligan fans would follow a team in a real league.

Who are "we"?

_blank_ · 25-01-2008 11:31PM

/Andy\ wrote: »

Seriously, this thread is sickening because of the typically lowbrow gloating of some soccer fans (in inverted commas). The soccer forum charter clearly states that the word scum is abusive yet it's used more than once here to refer to a rival association, DesF etc, without any bans? I like soccer as much as the next person but couldn't care less about ANY LoI team, and I'm localish to this stadium. That said I would have been glad for Rovers simply because as a GAA man, we don't need some tiny ground in Tallaght, but now I just wish their hooligan fans would follow a team in a real league.

Are you actually serious?

Have you read any of my posts?

Please, just please do this, go and hit the quote button on the posts where I used the word "Scum".

Oh hang on a second, you can't. Why? Because you are lying. I never used that word.

Ah but, a bit of aul revisionism doesn't go amiss in the bigoted world of the gah, does it?

Mushy · 25-01-2008 11:38PM

DesF wrote: »

Ah but, a bit of aul revisionism doesn't go amiss in the bigoted world of the gah, does it?

Its this sort of thing that annoys me. You're just tarring the whole GAA with one brush. As was said before, no other counties or clubs outside of Dublin voted on this. Cnt it not be kept that way?

chopperbyrne · 25-01-2008 11:38PM

I may have called them scum, possibly of the highest order.

OhNoYouDidn't · 25-01-2008 11:44PM

Mushy wrote: »

Exactly(about the whole no other county thing)!

Well I dont recall you trying to stop them. Until the bill arrives and then you were of course opposed the whole time...

Mushy wrote: »

Where exactly does it say this?

If thats the case, there should be murder over it. Personally I feel that thats just favourtism for Dublin club(in GAA of course). It wont really matter anyway, €400k isnt too much to them, but just on principle, eith TD or DCB should cough it up.

Nowhere, yet, but its true. Why should the DCB or TD couch up when they were just the bagmen? This is a Jones Road operation and they are paying the bill.

OhNoYouDidn't · 25-01-2008 11:46PM

Mushy wrote: »

Its this sort of thing that annoys me. You're just tarring the whole GAA with one brush. As was said before, no other counties or clubs outside of Dublin voted on this. Cnt it not be kept that way?

you cant have it both ways, a wonderful coherent centralised organisation when you want it to be, and a free for all when you dont.

no-one in the GAA asked for a vote or asked questions. suddenly you have realised it concerns you financially and become interested.

you made your bed etc.

OhNoYouDidn't · 25-01-2008 11:47PM

/Andy\ wrote: »

Seriously, this thread is sickening because of the typically lowbrow gloating of some soccer fans (in inverted commas). The soccer forum charter clearly states that the word scum is abusive yet it's used more than once here to refer to a rival association, DesF etc, without any bans? I like soccer as much as the next person but couldn't care less about ANY LoI team, and I'm localish to this stadium. That said I would have been glad for Rovers simply because as a GAA man, we don't need some tiny ground in Tallaght, but now I just wish their hooligan fans would follow a team in a real league.

Another Gah mensa candidate.

_blank_ · 25-01-2008 11:48PM

/Andy\ wrote: »

Seriously, this thread is sickening because of the typically lowbrow gloating of some soccer fans (in inverted commas).

Lowbrow gloating.

Get a bleedin' grip will you.

What the fúck do you expect? Your club wanted Shamrock Rovers to go out of business, and failed miserably. I hope to god this costs award cripples them. But it won't, because it'll be paid from a more central body, either DCB or HQ. I don't actually care which, that's an issue for the gah themselves. But fúck them.

Your club wanted Rovers gone, dead. That was their express wishes. They didn't succeed. They failed. Deal with the consequences. I'm happy they failed. I;m happy Rovers are in Tallaght.

I hate Rovers.

/Andy\ wrote: »

The soccer forum charter clearly states that the word scum is abusive yet it's used more than once here to refer to a rival association, DesF etc, without any bans?

Yeah it does. That's why I refrained form using that term, I think you'll find. :rolleyes:

/Andy\ wrote: »

I like soccer as much as the next person but

Fair fúcks to you.

I bleedin' hate gah.

/Andy\ wrote: »

couldn't care less about ANY LoI team,

Good.

/Andy\ wrote: »

but now I just wish their hooligan fans would follow a team in a real league.

Ah, here we have it.

Mods, you know what to do.

Mushy · 25-01-2008 11:51PM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Well I dont recall you trying to stop them. Until the bill arrives and then you were of course opposed the whole time...

Nowhere, yet, but its true. Why should the DCB or TD couch up when they were just the bagmen? This is a Jones Road operation and they are paying the bill.

Other counties didnt get involved cos it has nothing to do with them. Its only a matter for those other counties if the CB do pay the bill, which, as you said, is no proof of them paying. Maybe they wont do anything if they do pay up, maybe they will, only time will tell. Also, did the CB actually officially back the whole TD case about the stadium? I did feel sorry for SR, thought it was petty by TD to do this. DCB or TD should cough up cos it was their case to go against the whole planning thing.

Mushy · 25-01-2008 11:55PM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

you cant have it both ways, a wonderful coherent centralised organisation when you want it to be, and a free for all when you dont.

no-one in the GAA asked for a vote or asked questions. suddenly you have realised it concerns you financially and become interested.

you made your bed etc.

As before, its only a matter now for other counties if the GAA CB pay up the funds when they could be used elsewhere. Other counties stayed out of the business, this may only be a repercussion for the GAA now, it wont involve the FAI or anything about soccer. IT may become an issue if the GAA pay up.

I'm not being anti-soccer/SRFC here

chopperbyrne · 25-01-2008 11:58PM

I don't care who pays up, I'm just glad that the one half-built stand will finally be completed and joined by a few more completed stands and I can watch Rovers in Tallaght.

OhNoYouDidn't · 26-01-2008 12:29AM

Mushy wrote: »

As before, its only a matter now for other counties if the GAA CB pay up the funds when they could be used elsewhere. Other counties stayed out of the business, this may only be a repercussion for the GAA now, it wont involve the FAI or anything about soccer. IT may become an issue if the GAA pay up.

I'm not being anti-soccer/SRFC here

I know you arent being anti football, but I am right.

The GAA footing the bill also means TD lied on their affedavit.

Ronan|Raven · 26-01-2008 12:33AM

/Andy\ wrote: »

Seriously, this thread is sickening because of the typically lowbrow gloating of some soccer fans (in inverted commas). The soccer forum charter clearly states that the word scum is abusive yet it's used more than once here to refer to a rival association, DesF etc, without any bans? I like soccer as much as the next person but couldn't care less about ANY LoI team, and I'm localish to this stadium. That said I would have been glad for Rovers simply because as a GAA man, we don't need some tiny ground in Tallaght, but now I just wish their hooligan fans would follow a team in a real league.

You are not even a good troll. Please try harder.:p

TheBigLebowski · 26-01-2008 12:38AM

/Andy\ wrote: »

Seriously, this thread is sickening because of the typically lowbrow gloating of some soccer fans (in inverted commas).

You know, when you're typing you can just actually put the words inside inverted commas and it makes it a lot easier. These are inverted commas for future reference - "". Here, I'll fix it for you:

Seriously, this thread is sickening because of the typically lowbrow gloating of some soccer "fans".

Your welcome...

Ronan|Raven · 26-01-2008 12:46AM

Oh and to note I am delighted for the Shams on their result today in the courts. I am sure Thomas Davies will have no hassle getting the money from GAA Headquarters anyway.

And as for the lowbrow gloating how about this and I am far far from a fan of Shamrock Rovers, they beat a petty attempt to block them from moving into Tallaght and no matter what way you look at it it was a petty attempt. It wasnt about the size of the pitch etc. TD have plenty of their own land. They see Rovers as a threat to their precious world. I hope they continue upsetting the bigots more and more over the coming years out there.

/Andy\ · 26-01-2008 05:52AM

Just to make it clear, I'm not a member of Thomas Davis, I'm a Round Towers man, and I just think gloating about this decision and using the word scum to refer to the G.A.A is typical of the insecurities soccer fans in this country have about their game (and rightly so). Do I think Thomas Davis were out of order? Yes. Does gloating about the result make soccer fans look anything other than petty schoolchildren? No tbh. DesF if it wasn't you that used the phrase scum I apologise, I'm far too lazy to check the whole thread again

OhNoYouDidn't · 26-01-2008 10:02AM

/Andy\ wrote: »

Just to make it clear, I'm not a member of Thomas Davis, I'm a Round Towers man, and I just think gloating about this decision and using the word scum to refer to the G.A.A is typical of the insecurities soccer fans in this country have about their game (and rightly so). Do I think Thomas Davis were out of order? Yes. Does gloating about the result make soccer fans look anything other than petty schoolchildren? No tbh. DesF if it wasn't you that used the phrase scum I apologise, I'm far too lazy to check the whole thread again

so you have in fact nothing to contribute to this thread whatsoever.

SectionF · 26-01-2008 11:15AM

/Andy\ wrote: »

I like soccer as much as the next person but couldn't care less about ANY LoI team, and I'm localish to this stadium...
I just wish their hooligan fans would follow a team in a real league.

All right, I'' bite. What's a real league?

Mushy · 26-01-2008 12:44PM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

I know you arent being anti football, but I am right.

The GAA footing the bill also means TD lied on their affedavit.

What did TD say in their affedavit? The only way I can see GAA footing the bill is if it threatens the existance of TD(which I think they deserve a scare like that).

OhNoYouDidn't · 26-01-2008 03:27PM

Mushy wrote: »

What did TD say in their affedavit? The only way I can see GAA footing the bill is if it threatens the existance of TD(which I think they deserve a scare like that).

They said that they were taking the case for themselves (we know to be untrue) and that certain individuals would pay the bills.

With the GAA stepping in, its clear to me that these individuals had no intention of doing so and the case got to court on a false pretext. Thankfully Judge O'Neill saw through them.

Put anther way - if I go to sue Coke, lose and it turns out Pepsi were paying for my case, it puts quite the different spin on things.

Mushy · 26-01-2008 03:57PM

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

They said that they were taking the case for themselves (we know to be untrue) and that certain individuals would pay the bills.

With the GAA stepping in, its clear to me that these individuals had no intention of doing so and the case got to court on a false pretext. Thankfully Judge O'Neill saw through them.

Put anther way - if I go to sue Coke, lose and it turns out Pepsi were paying for my case, it puts quite the different spin on things.

Ah ok, cheers for clearing that up. Understand it all now. Just guess I'm down to wondering why the hell TD would have needed this place(under false pretence obviously), unless they kept getting huge crowds to their league/champ matches(very unlikely).

OhNoYouDidn't · 26-01-2008 04:00PM

Mushy wrote: »

Ah ok, cheers for clearing that up. Understand it all now. Just guess I'm down to wondering why the hell TD would have needed this place(under false pretence obviously), unless they kept getting huge crowds to their league/champ matches(very unlikely).

they admitted they would never use it.

they idea was to delay it so long that Rovers gave up and tried to build somewhere else, or if they won the capacity and potential for the place would either stifle us or get us to move on.

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