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Peyton Manning · 12-01-2008 09:35PM

Didnt take him long to start - first day of the season.

phenom · 12-01-2008 09:36PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Do you honestly believe that Gerrard dives anywhere near the same amount as Ronaldo?

Please cite me examples of Gerrards diving this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-hXYn2pA0

These are not this year but Gerrard is inclined to go down with little or no contact.

Mr Alan · 12-01-2008 09:37PM

Archimedes wrote: »

Didnt take him long to start - first day of the season.

Ok, so Gerrard took a dive on the first day of the season against Villa. (btw, i think thats disputable!

)

That wat, nearly 6 months ago? hardly wat you'd call a serial offender?

Now compare that to Ronaldo who took more blatant dives in the Newcastle game this evening than Gerrard has in the last, wat, 2 years?

Villain · 12-01-2008 09:38PM

Gerrard dived against Villa to get the free kick he scored but its ok because after the game when asked about he said something along the lines of: thats football some weeks things go for you and some weeks they don't they equal themselves out.

The next week Chelsea got a peno against the Pool for nothing so Gerrard was right and he got what he deserved and while Gerrard has dived on occasions he is no where the class of cheat that Ronaldo is and Gerrard can actually take a hard clean tackle and not jump up and down like a sissy.

Cionád · 12-01-2008 09:40PM

Absolutely Sick.

I actually had a feeling we'd get something today at Old Trafford but was sadly mistaken.

Man Utd were on fire. Ronaldo (captain) and Ferdinand on my fantasy football team my only consolation...

Hopefully we'll get a competent, experienced and proven manager to finally sort out the madness.

- Upset NUFC fan.

_blank_ · 12-01-2008 09:44PM

The bet goal was Ferdinand's tbh.

The spot and ball from Rooney were exquisite.

Mr Alan · 12-01-2008 09:44PM

phenom wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-hXYn2pA0

These are not this year but Gerrard is inclined to go down with little or no contact.

Not really of any relevance as i am in agreeance that gerrard has dived on occassion, its not something i condone.

Peyton Manning · 13-01-2008 12:32AM

Had to laugh at Avram Grant's post match interview with BBC.

Interviewer: 'Arsenal held today Avram, youre right back in the thick of the title race.."
Avram: "Huh?"
Interviewer: 'Arsenal held...'
Avram *blank stare*
Voice off screen: 'Drew..'
Avram *blank stare*
Voice off screen: "Arsenal drew..."
Avram: "They drew? I thought they win"
Interviewer: "Haha, puts you right back in the thick of the title race"
Avram: "No communication at Chelsea!"

Also laughed at Gary Linekers comments on how dull Grant is during interviews after seeing that:

"No communication at Chelsea indeed, he obviously didnt know that they won 2-0!"

genericgoon · 13-01-2008 12:37AM

Archimedes wrote: »

Had to laugh at Avram Grant's post match interview with BBC.

Interviewer: 'Arsenal held today Avram, youre right back in the thick of the title race.."
Avram: "Huh?"
Interviewer: 'Arsenal held...'
Avram *blank stare*
Voice off screen: 'Drew..'
Avram *blank stare*
Voice off screen: "Arsenal drew..."
Avram: "They drew? I thought they win"
Interviewer: "Haha, puts you right back in the thick of the title race"
Avram: "No communication at Chelsea!"

Also laughed at Gary Linekers comments on how dull Grant is during interviews after seeing that:

"No communication at Chelsea indeed, he obviously didnt know that they won 2-0!"

LOL. And who said Grant couldnt do intersting interviews?

PHB · 13-01-2008 02:02AM

DesF wrote: »

Fook. PHB was at this match wasn't he?

We'll never hear the bleedin' end of it

What an incredible game. How anyone can say the Owen decision was the key moment of the game was clearly watching a different game. United were carving open Newcastles defence, it was only a matter of time.

What a game

The best goal was without a doubt Ronaldos second. His touch was just godlike. Only had to spend 9 hours on the coach, which is better than normal

What a great day, only bad point is the resurgance of Chelsea, but we took the lead and it's without a doubt a 3 horse race now.

Dave! · 13-01-2008 02:25AM

Yeh I couldn't get over the control for his second goal... Tevez (I think) fired a rocket just ahead of Ron and he took it perfectly. Sent the keeper the wrong way too

ps. You're a jammy git for getting to that match

_blank_ · 13-01-2008 03:09AM

PHB wrote: »

What an incredible game.

yadda yadda yadda:)

homerjay2005 · 13-01-2008 01:47PM

oh its great coming on ere and reading some bitter posts after united do something like that. this is the most predictable place ever, united play some of the best stuff in years and the focus is somehow taken away from it to diving.

This Ronaldo "diving" situation is totally blown outta proportion. there is a difference between going down too easy and diving. ronaldo runs at pace, people generally cant get near him, if contact is made, which there generally is, then he is entitled to go down.

we had a thread a few months ago after the saha penalty v chesea and this was discussed to no end. its getting boring, people go down easily, others dive. personally, i think neither gerrard nor ronaldo are serial divers, they are players who run with pace, that get some form of contact that knocks them off their stride. if there is contact. no matter how minimal, you are entitled to go down, end of story. divers?? i cant think of any proper divers in the premiership cos i only really watch united week in week out, so im not going to jump on bandwagons and start pointing fingers.

anyway, united were awesome. being critical, could say that the game should have been over at half time.rooney was awesome, my bro in law(scouser fan, i was going to go but decided not cos im broke after christmas!!) was at the game and said that its only when u see him live you realise just how good he is. his pass to rio was the best assist so far this season, unreal. ronaldo was well, class as always. his second goal was top class. tevez, 2 more goals, im surprised how well he is doing really. 12 goals i think aint it?

Carrick was superb and i thought o shea, bar was mistake, was also very good and played a big part in 2 of the goals. back 4 was the usual no nonsense stuff. giggs gave away the ball alot, as usual and anderson was quite. overall , a great day for united.

machiavellianme · 13-01-2008 01:57PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

ronaldo runs at pace, people generally cant get near him, if contact is made, which there generally is, then he is entitled to go down.

Entitled to go down? Who is he? Bernard Dunne?
Show me in the rule book where it says a player is entitled to go down and subsequently be rewarded a free kick because someone got a little bit close to them? Nonsense.
Sure, people can go roll around on the ground all they want on or off the ball as last time I checked, its a free country, but they are not due a free kick/penalty every time they hit the deck as some players seem to think.

Xavi6 · 13-01-2008 02:00PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

then he is entitled to go down.

WTF? How the hell is he entitled to go down? Last time I checked it's a contact sport. Maybe he should go off and play netball where every touch is punished with a free.

BaZmO* · 13-01-2008 02:17PM

Hands up who has never uttered the words, "He shoulda went down!" when a player form a team you support is fouled but somehow manages to stay on his feet only to carry on and then miss his shot.

pd101 · 13-01-2008 02:17PM

Archimedes wrote: »

Had to laugh at Avram Grant's post match interview with BBC.

Interviewer: 'Arsenal held today Avram, youre right back in the thick of the title race.."
Avram: "Huh?"
Interviewer: 'Arsenal held...'
Avram *blank stare*
Voice off screen: 'Drew..'
Avram *blank stare*
Voice off screen: "Arsenal drew..."
Avram: "They drew? I thought they win"
Interviewer: "Haha, puts you right back in the thick of the title race"
Avram: "No communication at Chelsea!"

Also laughed at Gary Linekers comments on how dull Grant is during interviews after seeing that:

"No communication at Chelsea indeed, he obviously didnt know that they won 2-0!"

:DI thought this was hilarious. He looked as if he was asleep.

PHB · 13-01-2008 02:23PM

My opinion on this is very simple. If contact is made, it's a foul. However, a ref won't ever give the penalty if you continue running. As such, you are entitled to cheat to get the right decision. That said, I think all out diving is a different issue.

Xavi6 · 13-01-2008 02:26PM

PHB wrote: »

My opinion on this is very simple. If contact is made, it's a foul. However, a ref won't ever give the penalty if you continue running. As such, you are entitled to cheat to get the right decision. That said, I think all out diving is a different issue.

Any contact?

PHB · 13-01-2008 02:28PM

If contact which impedes your chances of scoring, yes. If someone literally taps you no. But if somebody leaves their leg in so that you have two choices,
A. Jump over it, avoid the contact, and miss the chance
B. Run into it, get clear contact, and win a foul
Then the choice is clear. Leaving your leg in like that is a foul, but refs will never give it.

p.s. After watching the replays on TV, there's no doubt in my mind that United should have had three penalties. The Ronaldo one, definately the Giggs one, and definately the Ferdinand one.

ninebeanrows · 13-01-2008 02:34PM

I think Sunderland will win this 2-1

Sizzler · 13-01-2008 02:53PM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Please cite me examples of Gerrards diving this year.

No problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVb2gbMtN3I

machiavellianme · 13-01-2008 03:08PM

BaZmO* wrote: »

Hands up who has never uttered the words, "He shoulda went down!" when a player form a team you support is fouled but somehow manages to stay on his feet only to carry on and then miss his shot.

3 words:
John Arne Riise

Why oh why does he never go down?

Xavi6 · 13-01-2008 03:10PM

1-0 Sunderland. Richardson

Dave! · 13-01-2008 03:13PM

Sizzler wrote: »

No problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVb2gbMtN3I

At least Ronaldo doesn't criticise others over it! :eek: What cheek

PHB · 13-01-2008 03:14PM

Richardson finally doing what he can, imo he will be Keanes best signing.

Xavi6 · 13-01-2008 03:17PM

2-0 now. Richardson again

PHB · 13-01-2008 03:18PM

Great timing from me

Sizzler · 13-01-2008 03:19PM

DaveMcG wrote: »

At least Ronaldo doesn't criticise others over it! :eek: What cheek

Gerrard probably claiming he was misquoted

Dave! · 13-01-2008 03:20PM

Anyone got a stream for the Sunderland match?

I have Campbell and Benjani on my FF team

Sort it out, laike!

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