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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,745 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    Oh and after watching that free kick Ronaldo got and scored, he's a very very stupid cheat, he has such ability and doesn't need to grab his shin and pretend he's hurt when he obviously wasn't touched. Sadly his cheating will never allow him to claim the praise he deserves from other fans for his ability, e.g. the Peno against Derby, game is over and he cheats to get a peno. Cheat with great ability.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    How can you say he is a bad human being? Because he might dive sometimes?

    All the time.

    He constantly cheats. In the modern game, most players take an occassional dive. I dont like it but its something i'll have to accept.

    He is on a different level to anyone else though.

    he cheats constantly. Probably about ten dives in this match today. A truely dispicable trait to have as a professional sportsperson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    He dives, what is the big deal? I can never understand this fascination with diving.....personally I find it very useful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Villain wrote: »
    If the Ref's were consistent and sent off players for abuse, Rooney would be suspended for the whole season.

    Great win for Utd they played well but the big moment of the game was the offside against Owen, awful decision and Ferdinand was the same for his goal however he got the goal, linesman should be demoted and ref should be demoted for sending smith or ref's should follow his suit and send ever player off from now on that gives abuse.

    Giggs shoulda got a peno earlier on, and Ronaldo coulda got one too, although granted that one's debateable. Ya just hope it evens out in the end.

    Great day for United, and an amazing performance by the whole team. JOSH was sh*te defensively, but he sent in a few good crosses, 2 of which resulted (indirectly) in goals!

    Everyone else was perfect really.

    Woulda liked to see Danny S get a goal, he had 2 or 3 chances when he came on!

    What was with Ferdinand coming up front so much? Sent in a cross to (I think) Rooney, and he got a goal. Not complaining! But it's just unusual :)

    The Premiership is on RTÉ2, FYI!
    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Why was smith sent off for giving the ref stick when he didnt do the same to Giggs,Ferdinand,Ronaldo and Rooney in the first half when they continually harassed him?

    Do you know what they all said to the ref? Cos I don't. Smith coulda been telling him he's gonna burn down his house for all we know. Refs expect protests and put up with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Looks like Eduardo dived today too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Des please tell me you aint defending people who dive constantly? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    The only thing worse than people who condemn diving, is people who say its 'thought on the continent'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Newcastle cleared FOUR shots off the line as well !

    Owen's goal should have stood but frankly had he scored a double I dont think it would have stopped Utd in the 2nd half.

    Major LOL at Pearson's headset for the whole of the match, I mean WTF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    The only thing worse than people who condemn diving

    Do you think diving is alright?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Sizzler wrote: »
    Newcastle cleared FOUR shots off the line as well !

    2 of them by Taylor, fair play!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    3 of them by taylor actually iirc!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Des please tell me you aint defending people who dive constantly? :(
    Al, how the jaysis did you deduce that from my post?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    In my opinion its fine within limits, however like anything if done stupidly it is annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Actually des just re-read it there, sorry, dont know how i came to that! PM sent to you in a minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    In my opinion its fine within limits, however like anything if done stupidly like some players it is annoying.

    i really think you are a strange poster. I can never tell if you are taking the piss or being serious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Actually des just re-read it there, sorry, dont know how i came to that! PM sent to you in a minute.
    I'm on the edge of my seat in anticipation :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    No I'm being serious, if someone puts out their leg and you have no chance to get the ball then I think it is clever to try get a free or a penalty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    A matter for another thread!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Yeah but I can't stand this Ronaldo is a bad person because he exploits a situation on the football field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Ok wat about.....I dont like Ronaldo as a person because he is constantly dishonest.

    Is that better?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Villain wrote: »
    Oh and after watching that free kick Ronaldo got and scored, he's a very very stupid cheat, he has such ability and doesn't need to grab his shin and pretend he's hurt when he obviously wasn't touched. Sadly his cheating will never allow him to claim the praise he deserves from other fans for his ability, e.g. the Peno against Derby, game is over and he cheats to get a peno. Cheat with great ability.


    one name for the moment

    Diego Maradona.....is he not considered one of the true greats in football no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I would have to accept that, however his dishonesty on the pitch is not an indication of his personality.

    Look if you think that makes him a poor sportsman then that is you, but not in my book. Even when I didnt like Ronaldo(I thought he was crap in world cup and european cup 2004) I still hated the crap he got for diving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,745 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    kryogen wrote: »
    one name for the moment

    Diego Maradona.....is he not considered one of the true greats in football no?

    LOL well I know him as the Hand of God, but that was only one incident, Ronaldo cheats week in week out and its not even the cheating its the way he complains standing with his hands in the air when he loses the ball to a clean tackle.

    I have always said Ronaldo was class, I even remeber saying it about 2 years ago in a thread when everyone was having a rant against, I said I'm sure any manager would rather pick Ronaldo than try and pick a corner back to mark him.

    The thing is he is giving people enough reasons to slate him as he is giving Utd fans reasons to love him. Geroge Best might have been an alco but he was a great player and he took tackles without moaning or feigning injury and been a cheat, as long as Ronaldo continues the way he is he will always be a cheat first and a great talent second which imo is sad for him and Utd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    Villain wrote: »
    , as long as Ronaldo continues the way he is he will always be a cheat first and a great talent second which imo is sad for him and Utd.

    in your opinion.


    All professional footballers are cheats, every single one of them from claiming throws that arent theirs to diving, fouling, stamping, every single one of them is a cheat.

    So do we just overlook everyone else doing it week in week out and focus on ronaldo doing it so that we can hate a united player?



    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    in your opinion.


    All professional footballers are cheats, every single one of them from claiming throws that arent theirs to diving, fouling, stamping, every single one of them is a cheat.

    So do we just overlook everyone else doing it week in week out and focus on ronaldo doing it so that we can hate a united player?



    kdjac

    Somewhat different tbh.

    Most people in their career will take dives, claim things that arent theres, and make a couple of "bad" tackles.

    BUT

    Their is a massive difference between these people and the people who do these things ALL the time. Ronaldo dives ALL THE TIME. Diouf will ALWAYS be a despicable person for his actions on the football pitch regularly over the course of his career.

    These people deserve to be criticised for their CONTSTANT cheating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,745 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    in your opinion.


    All professional footballers are cheats, every single one of them from claiming throws that arent theirs to diving, fouling, stamping, every single one of them is a cheat.

    So do we just overlook everyone else doing it week in week out and focus on ronaldo doing it so that we can hate a united player?



    kdjac
    LOL Kdjac find any other player in the Preimer at the moment that complains and dives as much as Ronaldo? If you asked me a year or two ago I would have said Drogba was just as bad but he has improved that side of his game a lot.

    Don't get me wrong I know players dive every week I mean I slated Ashley Young on here a few weeks for diving and said he should have been fined a weeks wages for it, its just while it happens every week its not done by the same players every week with the exception of Ronaldo and its not even the diving as I have said above its the constant complaining throwing his arms in the air when he loses the ball through a clean tackle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    Mr Alan wrote: »

    These people deserve to be criticised for their CONTSTANT cheating.

    Cheating is cheating but with football its twisted to suit a fans opinion and club.

    Ronaldo dives dont see many Utd fans constantly berating him for it.

    gerrard dives dont see pool constantly berating him for it.

    But what you do see is both sets berating each others player.

    Villian is ok cant think of any serial diver with Villa this season, Angel used to be a bit of girl. :D

    Villian his complaing is more his attitude than cheating, for all the dives he takes just as many whacks Carr nailed him twice (when faced with skillful player i also whack them early) in the 1st few minutes.

    not defending ronaldo but they all cheats, and gauranteed when young got that peno you cheered it going in.

    dammit good example removed from youtube :(

    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,745 ✭✭✭✭Villain


    I actually think quite a few Utd Fans slate Ronaldo for his diving, I have 2 mates who are die hard Utd fans and while they love the ability of Ronaldo and his goals for Utd they actually hate the person he is on the pitch, as I've said Kdjac its not just about his cheating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    KdjaCL wrote: »
    Ronaldo dives dont see many Utd fans constantly berating him for it.

    gerrard dives dont see pool constantly berating him for it.

    Do you honestly believe that Gerrard dives anywhere near the same amount as Ronaldo?

    Please cite me examples of Gerrards diving this year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    Just to add I say I have no problem with diving, but this is not meant to be controversial, indeed my most favourite player(after Cambiasso) is perhaps the most honest player.


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