Begging in Traffic

nads · 19-12-2007 09:05AM

we already have our pikeys and we're very pleased with them.

there's a great comparison at the Newlands cross junction turning right to the Belgard road, there's a blondy Eastern Block girl working selling Heralds, then at the barriers there's a bearded gimpy Roma gypsy lad, auld boy, complete with hi-vis begging... even if his leg was fine and was given a suit and a shave he wouldn't bother working - c*nt!

Cuddlesworth · 19-12-2007 09:54AM

cance wrote: »

next time i see him ill tell the missus to grab his crutch while we drive by, give him something to really complain about.

We could make a game of it. See how much money he really makes by the amount of times he can afford to buy a new crutch.

cance · 19-12-2007 09:57AM

krazy_8s wrote: »

We could make a game of it. See how much money he really makes by the amount of times he can afford to buy a new crutch.

or we could just play "how long can he can hold on" VVVVRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM

_blank_ · 19-12-2007 10:19AM

Mairt wrote: »

The boy with the gimpy foot at the Darndale Hilton/Clarehall Tesco junction.

I hate that guy.

Mairt wrote: »

That guy turns my stomach, he hobbles up to the lights, takes off his runner and rolls up the leg of his pants to expose his gimpy foot. Sickening.

This is why.

togster wrote: »

Theres a chick near swords who has one leg too. She hops around in the middle of the road.

That's his sister.

Horrible people.

Cocobells · 19-12-2007 10:31AM

their should be a van that goes around (similar to a bin lorry) and picks this trash up and deports it back to the **** hole its came from. anyone who feels sorry for these people and gives them money are morons, these are the same people who get nearly 200 a week on dole and rent allowance (free house) and medical cards, its an absolute disgrace, they contribute nothing to society or our economy and beg for our hard earned money

cance · 19-12-2007 10:33AM

DesF wrote: »

That's his sister.

both with one leg wtf? were they playing a three legged race through a mine field?

_blank_ · 19-12-2007 10:36AM

cance wrote: »

both with one leg wtf? were they playing a three legged race through a mine field?

I think the legs are deformed rather than actually totally missing, the dude in Clare Hall certainly has a skinny, malformed lower leg and foot, and it looks like the chick at Swords has the same kind of afflicition.

Could be a genetic thing, or something like a thalidomide deformation.

Either way, I wish they didn't stick their feet in my window.

WindSock · 19-12-2007 10:47AM

Begging and Jay walking are not illegal here.

When the gimpy leg couple dangle their legs over their crutches, I get a good look when they are far away and avert my eyes when they come up closer. they always get the message when they see me, and hop off.
I never feel intimidated in my car, thats why traffic here is so bad.

It's not the gypsies and foreigners that intimidate me. They don't bother me so much, all I have to do is say 'no, sorry' and thats that, it's the feckin inner city junkies I have a problem with. A persistant little madame came up to us last night and i thought she would needle us when we said no.

MilkyMOOO · 19-12-2007 10:59AM

Its absolutely crazy, there is another few Gimpy leg people around the long mile road.
In your window the minute you come to either of the lights.
Whats the deal?? Is there a some sort of dodgy leg ring going on????
Being smuggled into Ireland to pester us at nearly every light in the country..

TwoShedsJackson · 19-12-2007 11:03AM

Mairt wrote: »

When I see people like you give them money I feel like ringing your neck.

Agreed. Giving these people money is keeping them on the bloody roundabouts.

Tony Danza · 19-12-2007 11:03AM

The-Rigger wrote: »

It's an American term but I think a similar law exists here, it's just one of the ones that isn't applied.

I pretty sure you're wrong on that one.

Degsy · 19-12-2007 11:04AM

I look forward to seeing Heather Mills at tesco clearwater when she loses her divorce battle and needs a few bob.

Ciaran500 · 19-12-2007 11:06AM

I remember seeing a one legged woman standing at the junction at Palmerstown, in between begging she would lean up against the lights, whip out her phone and stand there texting while she waited for the lights to go red.

gonker · 19-12-2007 11:06AM

Those ones with the funny legs are all the same they were begging in Drogheda for a while then I spotted them in swords then in Darndale!
The other day I was stuck in traffic and a Big Issue seller came up to me and banged on the window and asked me to buy the mag. I said I had no money she spotted one Euro on the dash that I keep for the trolley and asked me to give her that instead:eek:

watna · 19-12-2007 11:27AM

Mairt wrote: »

When I see people like you give them money I feel like ringing your neck.

Your responsible for these parasites aggressively begging from the people who don't immediately come accross with money.

+1 Million!

People, if you give them money they will keep begging. They do not need the money, they could get jobs if they wanted. If we all stopped giving them moeny they'd go away. They just choose to make it that way. If you're going to give money to people give it to a proper charity.

As I said in another thread, there's a kid that begs outside Pearse Station. Twice, i've seen him having a lunch break at 1 where he whips off his dirty blanket to reveal clean, new looking clothes and prodcues a ham sandwich wrapped in clingfilm from his pocket. It's like he's going to work for the day when he's sent off begging.

mkv83 · 19-12-2007 11:28AM

DesF wrote: »

I think the legs are deformed rather than actually totally missing, the dude in Clare Hall certainly has a skinny, malformed lower leg and foot, and it looks like the chick at Swords has the same kind of afflicition.

Could be a genetic thing, or something like a thalidomide deformation.

Either way, I wish they didn't stick their feet in my window.

i just started roaring laughing in work... brilliant!

prendy · 19-12-2007 11:35AM

As I said in another thread, there's a kid that begs outside Pearse Station. Twice, i've seen him having a lunch break at 1 where he whips off his dirty blanket to reveal clean, new looking clothes and prodcues a ham sandwich wrapped in clingfilm from his pocket. It's like he's going to work for the day when he's sent off begging.

I remember seeing a one legged woman standing at the junction at Palmerstown, in between begging she would lean up against the lights, whip out her phone and stand there texting while she waited for the lights to go red.

Thats absolutly disgracefull...why was this made legal????
talk about the state of the country wen we allow these people to exploit us like this?

Ginny · 19-12-2007 11:47AM

Is the girl at the M50/M1 and the one outside the texaco opposite Airside the same girl?

I have been reliably informed the one at the M50/m1 parks an older BMW in the Bewleys hotel carpark puts her false leg in the boot and proceeds up to the roundabout.
I myself have seen her sitting just over the fence of the slip road munching down what looked like a big Mac meal one lunch time.

_blank_ · 19-12-2007 11:50AM

GinnyJo wrote: »

Is the girl at the M50/M1 and the one outside the texaco opposite Airside the same girl?

Yep, she does alternate positions alright. I've seen her at the end of the N32 beside Bewleys actually, in Swords at Airside and at the Malahide Roundabout in Swords too.

Dragan · 19-12-2007 12:41PM

I have noticed the beggars and homeless getting a lot more agressive as of late.

One night in town last week i was at an ATM when a homeless dude walked up to me asking for me. I told him no. He then tapped me on the shoulder and almost shouted at me to give him money. Once again i said no and told him to leave me alone. He said "legally i can say whatever i like." My reply was "cool, same here, now go and **** yourself."

The whole aggressive begging thing bothers the **** out of me, trying to intimidate people into giving them money. No different than a mugging in my book.

hotshots85 · 19-12-2007 12:43PM

shes the same person alright for a girl with a deformed leg she gets around alot .a little thing i do is when they come near my car pretend not to notice take out the wallet open it and when the sad begging face appears at the window watch the sun glissin off the mouth of gold teeth as you take a fifty out and then just mouth the words no thanks .bad or what! but ive no time for these beggers. sorry if i offended any of the nice pc people out there

0ubliette · 19-12-2007 01:14PM

I was driving down drumcondra road on saturday and (what looked like) a roma (she wasnt wearing the long dress, which is why i cant say for sure but physically looked the same) was standing int he middle of the road going up and down cars with a sign saying 'PLEASE HELP, I WANT TO GO HOME'.

prendy wrote: »

Thats absolutly disgracefull...why was this made legal????
talk about the state of the country wen we allow these people to exploit us like this?

Because soem smart arse hippy student decided it was unconstitutional to deny people the right to beg. He took it to court and the law was overturned. Thanks alot, students!

DubLegs · 19-12-2007 01:22PM

Has anyone seen the young lad at the junction at blackhorse - where the luas turns!
He actually walks between the cars and the luas - seriously taking his own life into his hands! It's actually scary to watch and he's also persitant in standing at the window of the cars for ages til moving to the next one.

Also i see they have installed security men at the luas in Jervis (not sure about the others!) to stop the begging at the machines - an probably the loitering of drunks, junkies etc.

gonker · 19-12-2007 01:26PM

prendy wrote: »

Thats absolutly disgracefull...why was this made legal????
talk about the state of the country wen we allow these people to exploit us like this?

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2007/0315/breaking47.htm

A Dublin man has won his High Court claim that a law outlawing begging in a public place is unconstitutional because it excessively interferes with his right of freedom of expression.

The Vagrancy (Ireland) Act 1847 was introduced during the Great Famine. Section 3 of the Act made begging in a public place an offence and provided for a sentence of up to three months on conviction on that charge.

Niall Dillon, of Dargle Road, Blackrock, Co Dublin, was facing a charge of begging in Parliament Street, Dublin in September 2003.

He claimed the act invidiously discriminated between the rich and the poor and breaches the rights to freedom of expression and to communicate.

He also argued that a mandatory prison sentence of up to three months for begging interferes with the freedom of the judiciary and breaches the separation of powers between the legislature and judiciary.

Mr Justice Éamon De Valera rejected this argument but agreed that the law interfered with Mr Dillon's right to freedom of expression and his right to communicate.

Mr Justice De Valera also found the possible penalty was disproportionate to the crime of begging in a public place.

The legislation was struck down, and the charge against Mr Dillon was dropped.

Dyr · 19-12-2007 01:27PM

Problem solved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRme0HeXq4

bahh youtube taggery

_blank_ · 19-12-2007 01:28PM

A big white box?

Genius.

Stephen P · 19-12-2007 02:01PM

I think the one legged Romanian girl who begs at Newlands Cross and Palmerstown/N4 junction is called...Eileen...:D

thefinalstage · 19-12-2007 02:08PM

stephen p wrote: »

I think the one legged Romanian girl who begs at Newlands Cross and Palmerstown/N4 junction is called...Eileen...:D

Eventually someone will drive past with a sword out the wondow. Then she couldn't walk up and down!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 19-12-2007 02:29PM

stephen p wrote: »

I think the one legged Romanian girl who begs at Newlands Cross and Palmerstown/N4 junction is called...Eileen...:D

Oh I get it - I LEAN - one legged woman!.

grahamo · 19-12-2007 02:49PM

Andrewf20 wrote: »

I know of the begging woman at the M50 / M1 intersection and the guy down at Tesco in Clare hall with the bad legs. I usually give them a few bob. That woman seems to be there rain or shine, day or night. My heart goes out to them tbh.

The only thing that does my head in, in relation to this, is those goons who come up to you car and start washing the window, and the bloody window is already clean enough.

Are you insane? That woman is the harpie from hell. Have you ever heard the abuse she gives people who have the nerve NOT to buy the big issue from her? I hope someone gets out of their car one day and gives her a bleeding slap!

Begging in Traffic

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