What channel is TNA Shown on in IRE?(Now The All-Purpose TNA Rant and Defence Thread)

swx22000 · 18-12-2007 09:50AM #1

What channel is TNA shown on? I have chorus/NTL.

Fozzy · 18-12-2007 10:07AM

It's on Bravo 2, which isn't available on NTL. Count yourself lucky

Otis Driftwood · 18-12-2007 11:17AM

Thats a bit harsh Fozzy!

I rarely watch WWE anymore but would tune in pretty regularly to TNA.
IMO its a hell of alot more entertaining than WWE is at the moment.

MikeHoncho · 18-12-2007 11:44AM

nedtheshed wrote: »

Thats a bit harsh Fozzy!

I rarely watch WWE anymore but would tune in pretty regularly to TNA.
IMO its a hell of alot more entertaining than WWE is at the moment.

If you like seeing washed up ex wwe guys in non sensical storylines and some of the stupidest gimmick matches imaginable then yep it is a hell of a show.

EdK · 18-12-2007 01:10PM

Atleast they put on some decent wrestling matches once and a while

orestes · 18-12-2007 01:42PM

I caught some of it on Eurosport UK a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't a full show, just about a half an hour with a match between Christian and Angle. Not sure if it's a regular thing or if it was just a promo but I haven't been able to find it on there again since

Gerard.C · 18-12-2007 01:57PM

EdK wrote: »

Atleast they put on some decent wrestling matches once and a while

Have you not been watching WWE lately then, no?

Jesus Christ, TNA is absolutely dire. I haven't sat down and watched an episode of TNA in months. Why? Because it insults my intelligence.

Otis Driftwood · 18-12-2007 02:00PM

MikeHoncho wrote: »

If you like seeing washed up ex wwe guys in non sensical storylines and some of the stupidest gimmick matches imaginable then yep it is a hell of a show.

Yes there are some ex WWE stars in it but so what?
How many ex WCW stars were in WWE down the years?
-taker,big show,nash,hall,vader,Eddie guererro,benoit,mysterio and many more-its the nature of the business.

WWE/WWF never had nonsensicle story lines and stupid gimmick matches????

Punjabi prison matches,dumpster matches,boiler room matches,paddle on a pole matches,Mae Young giving birth to a hand,Vince dying,hornswoggle??

TNA has some of the best techincal and high flying matches in pro wrestling.
Have you ever seen any of the samoa joe v aj styles v christopher daniels matches?
These were some of the greatest matches Ive ever seen and Ive been watching wrestling for over 20 years.

TNA is still a fledgling company that has only been going around 5 years so I think its pretty damn awesome what they have acheived in that short period of time.

EdK · 18-12-2007 02:32PM

Gerard.C wrote: »

Have you not been watching WWE lately then, no?

Jesus Christ, TNA is absolutely dire. I haven't sat down and watched an episode of TNA in months. Why? Because it insults my intelligence.

And WWE doesnt Vince has a midget son, came back from the dead, has had a breakdown has had sex with Howard Finkel and so on and so on

They are as bad as each other, but TNA'S in ring stuff is good, they do a few bad finishes but WWE do numerous dq's, countouts and other dodgy finishes.

Take CM Punk vs MVP champion v champion, going to finish? I think not!

MikeHoncho · 18-12-2007 03:28PM

nedtheshed wrote: »

Yes there are some ex WWE stars in it but so what?
How many ex WCW stars were in WWE down the years?
-taker,big show,nash,hall,vader,Eddie guererro,benoit,mysterio and many more-its the nature of the business.

None of those wrestlers were big stars untill they went to WWE and they were in WWE at the prime of their careers. WWE made them the big names they are. The ex WWE guys TNA have are either not good enough to be on WWE television or well past it. The exception's to this would be Christian Cage and maybe Rhino.

nedtheshed wrote: »

WWE/WWF never had nonsensicle story lines and stupid gimmick matches????

At least WWE gimmick matches even if a little stupid at times arent completly over complicated to the point of not being able to understand what is going on. That feast or fired thing was just way too complicated. Reverse Battle Royal my arse.

nedtheshed wrote: »

TNA has some of the best techincal and high flying matches in pro wrestling.
Have you ever seen any of the samoa joe v aj styles v christopher daniels matches?
These were some of the greatest matches Ive ever seen and Ive been watching wrestling for over 20 years.

Those guys are fantastic. They are the future of TNA but they are being booked terribly at the moment. Joe is stuck in a programme with Nash who should be out picking up his pension not wrestling. AJ Styles has been reduced to a lacky role and Christopher Daniels is doing an angle where he has been fired (you cant have great matches when your not wrestling).

The X divsion is what got people into TNA and was responsible for those high flying and great matches your talking about but they have really dropped the ball on this one in the last year or so. First they involved Nash in the division and now Team 3D. X Division should just be about great matches it doesnt need these guys involved at all.

Ned is you are looking for great high flying wrestling TNA is currently not the place to be and no amount of blind faith (something which TNA fans have in spades) will change that. Pick up an ROH DVD or watch some of their stuff online.

The Great One · 18-12-2007 04:00PM

at this moment despite the Hornwaggle angle which wasnt planned (and is aimed at kids) and the fallout from Benoit and Injuries WWE is actually at a much higher standard IMO than for quite a while. Meanwhile TNA is probably producing some of its worst work in a Long Long time despite having argueably the best Roster its ever had.

Otis Driftwood · 18-12-2007 04:20PM

Vader,Nash and Hall were all bigger in WCW than they ever were in WWE.

How many years did it take for Benoit,Eddie and Rey to get any sort of push and even at that they dropped the belt before too long.

Angle not good enough for WWE??
Are you having a laugh-youd rather have a Finlay,Cena(dont get me started on this douche)a Khali or some such guy ahead of him.

All in all,for the amount of wrestlers on the WWE roster and the amount of them that can actually pull off a decent match its laughable.

The way WWE is now is exactly the way it was in the early to mid 90s - stale.

TNA is trying something different rather than ripping off matches from other feds.
EG - The king of the mountain,super x cup,the ultimate X match as well as the Lockdown PPV.

I see where you are coming from re some of the match rules being a bit convaluted but as Ive said,they are trying to give the fans something fresh that hasnt been seen before and for that I salute them.

The reason 3d are involved in the X division at the moment is to push it onwards.
The Dudleys have always been great when it comes to putting guys over so thats what they are doing at the moment.

Its nothing to do with blind faith,I just feel that TNA have the right blend at the moment - technical wrestling,high flying and the more hardcore things.

Ive also been a fan of ROH for quite a while and agree,it is pretty damn good.

However,If I want to be entertained for nearly the full 2 hours I watch TNA.
If I want to see endless crappy promos and the same wrestlers doing the same thing week in week out I will watch WWE.

Gerard.C · 18-12-2007 04:37PM

I was actually going to respond to you, but then I saw you compare Finlay to Khali and Cena (who was one of the best wrestlers of 2007). So you can just go ****.

MikeHoncho · 18-12-2007 04:42PM

nedtheshed wrote: »

Nash and Hall were all bigger in WCW than they ever were in WWE.

Angle not good enough for WWE??
Are you having a laugh-youd rather have a Finlay,Cena(dont get me started on this douche)a Khali or some such guy ahead of him.

All in all,for the amount of wrestlers on the WWE roster and the amount of them that can actually pull off a decent match its laughable

Nash and Hall became stars in WWE as Diesel and Razor Ramone. WWE made them who they were.

Angle is one of my favourite wrestlers of all time but the fact is WWE let him go because they thought he was gonna end up another Eddie. If he could come back in full health then I would welcome it.

When the match of the year candidates are announced I will gaurantee there is more WWE matches than TNA ones.

Im not saying WWE is perfect. Far from it. All that Hornswaggle stuff is stupid and ECW is dying on its ass but at the moment the majority of their feuds are based on simple wrestling storylines and its working well IMO.

KrazeeEyezKilla · 18-12-2007 05:18PM

WWE make $400 million profits, I expect them to be a bit lazy with storylines. And anyway Hornswaggle is a childrens character. TNA is supposed to be the alternative to this yet is much worse. Samoa Joe should have had the same run with the belt as Cena had in WWE and the likes of Styles & Daniels should be major contenders. There is use for Angle and others but they should not dominate everything.

Otis Driftwood · 18-12-2007 05:56PM

Gerard.C wrote: »

I was actually going to respond to you, but then I saw you compare Finlay to Khali and Cena (who was one of the best wrestlers of 2007). So you can just go ****.

No need to be rude Gerard.
Im giving my opinion same as everyone else here is.
Its a debate,lets keep it that way.
My reasoning for mentioning those 3 wrestlers in particular is because they do the same thing week in week out.
Mike work,move set and general ring work is pretty much a carbon copy every single match.
I dont care what anyone says,Cena has NO charisma and is limited at best in his in ring work.
The only reason he held the belt for so long is because when he got it first he was booed out of every arena and Vince being Vince didnt want to end up eating $hit so he rammed him down the throats of the fans.
Who likes him?
He sells t shirts and action figures to kids so thats why hes currently in the top tier.
When WWE was at its height he wouldnt have got past mid card status,simple as that.
As for Finlay and Khali,see above.

KrazeeEyezKilla · 18-12-2007 06:44PM

I dont care what anyone says,Cena has NO charisma and is limited at best in his in ring work.
The only reason he held the belt for so long is because when he got it first he was booed out of every arena and Vince being Vince didnt want to end up eating $hit so he rammed him down the throats of the fans.
Who likes him?
He sells t shirts and action figures to kids so thats why hes currently in the top tier.
When WWE was at its height he wouldnt have got past mid card status,simple as that.

Kids are the WWE's main audience these days so thats why he is the top man. He's not as good as The Rock but he's not bad. TNA should be appealing to the older fans but I dont think they are doing a good enough job.

rizzla · 18-12-2007 06:47PM

KrazeeEyezKilla wrote: »

Kids are the WWE's main audience these days so thats why he is the top man. He's not as good as The Rock but he's not bad. TNA should be appealing to the older fans but I dont think they are doing a good job.

TNA try and cover the whole demogrpahic I feel. They've got an excellent womens WRESTLING division, some fun comedy characters for the kids (Shark Boy, Eric Young) then they've got some great technical wrestling, high-flyin and hardcore bouts to cater for the rest.

Double C · 18-12-2007 06:55PM

Your Finlay hate amazes me.

As for Cena, you say the reason he was champ is because he was booed and Vince wanted to spite the fans? Interesting theory. Ridiculous, but interesting. Cena was champion for two years for the exact reason that kids buy his merchandise, hes a money making machine the very same as Austin and the Rock years ago. He has oodles of charisma and if given decent material he would be one of the top promo guys in the business.

The match of the year candidates should be dominated by WWE and ROH. ROH is a shoe in to get more nominations than TNA. They had two of the top 3 last year in the Wrestling Observer (I assume thats the awards we'll be going by) tbh I cant think of of a single TNA match I'd have in the top 10

Shaneomac · 18-12-2007 08:10PM

Tna matches arnt that hard to understand, no harder than the punjabi prison anyway. Wonder how their matches will work in their videogame though...

Fozzy · 18-12-2007 08:42PM

Shaneomac wrote: »

Tna matches arnt that hard to understand, no harder than the punjabi prison anyway.

The difference is that WWE explains the matches! TNA usually attempt to at some stage, but it ends up so convoluted. There's always unanswered questions about their matches too. If TNA don't care enough to explain it, why should any fan care about it?

nedtheshed wrote:

If I want to see endless crappy promos and the same wrestlers doing the same thing week in week out I will watch WWE.

Endless crappy promos? Take a look at the Impact Script thread. I counted all the talking segments on the show and there's 15 or 16 of them. It's the same every week too. And all these segments are just talking about how someone is angry with someone or they're not getting on with their tag team partner, but they don't seem to be building to anything. If you want to bring WWE into it, every talking segment that they do is designed to do something. Whether it be to set up a match or create some hype for a match, almost all of the time they achieve it. And even if they don't, at least they were aiming to. And here's TNA with five segments at AJ's house to achieve what could have been done in one

Machismo Fan · 18-12-2007 09:18PM

Regarding ROH and match of the years, lets wait until they get a national TV deal, lets wait until they are known and successful worldwide, lets wait until they are no longer a company with no more than a cult following. See TNA and ROH are roughly the same age, ROH is slighty older.

Look what im getting at is youre all saying ROH is great and TNA is dreadful but the companies are worlds apart. TNA is much, much, much further ahead of ROH and despite ROH's brilliance they are not catching up very fast.

Fozzy · 18-12-2007 09:19PM

ROH's first two PPVs have outsold any TNA PPV this year

Double C · 18-12-2007 10:37PM

Shot down!!

TNA just pisses me off because it has so much potential and refuses to use it. ROH is just more entertaining. Great story lines that actually make sense :eek: and mostly good matches. Financially, ROH are turning over a profit which is alot more than can be said for TNA.

The main event level in ROH has been incredible this year, but the rest of the card has slipped bigstyle. The Resilience are case in point in the big spots with zero psychology. The Briscoe's are slipping into that category too I'm sad to say, but their feud with Steen and Generico this year was amazing.

Anyways, I was all for TNA to succeed, but at this stage I've given up on them. ROH is just the old reliable for me.

Fozzy · 18-12-2007 10:40PM

Whatever you think about the wrestling in ROH, you can't fault the booking on their PPVs. The feuds make sense, matches are set up and built up, they get you interested in seeing what happens next. It's been done pretty simply on the PPVs actually, but simple is what's sold in 2007

Gerard.C · 18-12-2007 11:17PM

I actually cannot stress anymore how much I despise TNA right now. Like Double C said, they have incredible potential, but are obviously too stupid to figure out what to do with it. "The Alternative" my ****ing hole. I'd much much prefer to watch ROH, but it's a bit of a pain to get my hands on.

joe123 · 18-12-2007 11:30PM

Gerard.C wrote: »

I was actually going to respond to you, but then I saw you compare Finlay to Khali and Cena (who was one of the best wrestlers of 2007). So you can just go ****.

You have to be kidding right? Im no expert but my god do I hate John Cena.

EVERY one of his matches have the same three moves. He has no charisma, hes just the cheesy "good guy" who the kids cheer.

Comparing him to the likes of austin and the rock is laughable.

Fozzy · 18-12-2007 11:46PM

Saying Cena has no charisma is laughable. That's his best quality. It's why the kids love him. I don't always like the stuff he says, but he's got buckets of charisma. Usually it's guys like Lance Storm or Bret Hart who are criticised for not having charisma, and there's a big difference between them and Cena

Have you seen any of Cena's matches this year? I'd have agreed with you last year about the formulaic matches with few moves (although moves do not make a match), he helped turn me off WWE for a good while. But this year he's had some really good matches

EdK · 19-12-2007 12:38AM

ROH shows are few and far between its easy to stay fresh when you only have a few shows, staying fresh and remaining consistant is hard to do wnhen you have to book tv every week/couple of weeks, if the lads in ROH were pulling out matches like that week after week they wouldnt last long injury wise etc

Just a point i'm not starting an argument as I like all brands of wrestling they all bring something to the table

Fozzy · 19-12-2007 12:53AM

EdK wrote: »

ROH shows are few and far between its easy to stay fresh when you only have a few shows, staying fresh and remaining consistant is hard to do wnhen you have to book tv every week/couple of weeks, if the lads in ROH were pulling out matches like that week after week they wouldnt last long injury wise etc

Just a point i'm not starting an argument as I like all brands of wrestling they all bring something to the table

There's been 38 ROH shows this year by my count. All of the guys work for other promotions too, so they pretty much are going like that week after week

EdK · 19-12-2007 01:05AM

We are not talking house shows here did you read what I said?

The oneupsmanship on this board kills it, everybody has to be right

What channel is TNA Shown on in IRE?(Now The All-Purpose TNA Rant and Defence Thread)

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