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PowerHouseDan · 16-12-2007 05:49PM

That's what he is using in the video as he says the software will be open source so should be software available with it, we all know tom tom and route software works in mobile devices its just a matter of implementing it to the iPhone.

thebiggestjim wrote: »

Nice device, but just a thought on it. When you get your long and lat coordinates and pipe it to google maps, won't you need to be connected to wifi for the maps to load, or at least EDGE. So if you are lost in the wilderness its not much good unless you have a map with you or is there a way to preload some google maps on your iphone device?

Kotek Besar · 16-12-2007 06:04PM

The point thebiggestjim is making is, the Iphone uses Google Maps, which are not saved in the Iphones memory, rather the device needs an internet connection to download them, in real time. Contrary to this, a GPS Sat Nav system has all it's maps saved within it. thebiggestjim makes the valid point, that is, what is the use of a GPS device for the Iphone, when the Iphone does not have any saved maps? The question is, will it use Google Maps and download them in real time over Edge, as the driver drives along? This would be an expensive and unreliable solution. My guess is that the GPS device for the Iphone will not use Google Maps at all, rather it will use third party software which has totally separate, ready installed maps, that are likely to be Navteq or Teleatlas (here's hoping the former, at least for Ireland). Only time will tell..

PowerHouseDan · 16-12-2007 06:08PM

If you read my post properly that's exactly what I said.

Kotek Besar · 16-12-2007 06:24PM

PowerHouseDan wrote: »

If you read my post properly that's exactly what I said.

Nope, you mentioned nothing about maps, and that is the point that's unclear. Even now.

PowerHouseDan · 16-12-2007 06:34PM

well even so there are open source maps available but with the dev kit being available in sep hopefully tom tom and the likes will make it available for the iphone. That is one feature on my list that would top the iphone off!

Kotek Besar · 16-12-2007 06:42PM

PowerHouseDan wrote: »

well even so there are open source maps available but with the dev kit being available in sep hopefully tom tom and the likes will make it available for the iphone. That is one feature on my list that would top the iphone off!

Agreed. Though I suspect the current Iphone will never be as feature-rich as we all would like. It probably will, however, be the most "hackable". After all, if the current Iphone has everything (or close to everything) consumers want, there would be little scope for improvement / development in future Iphone models (future technological advancements aside). Indeed, I suspect Apple have purposely left out some seemingly obvious and simple additions to the Iphone's features, for this very reason.

cathyhal · 17-12-2007 12:02AM

I have read through all 86 pages of this thread and I'm still baffled!!! I have a couple of very quick (and probably simple!) questions to wizards like PowerHouse Dan etc!!

I bought a new iPhone in Belfast yesterday. Firmware 1.1.2 and new bootloader. I know I can't unlock this until unlock is released but in the meantime, what can I do with it?

1. Can I downgrade it and simply use it as iPod Touch until unlock is released?
2. If so, how? (if someone could pin point the easiest link, that would be great)
3. If I do this, will it make unlocking (when unlock finally comes out) more complicated? I am a complete newbie!!!
4. I presume this is the thread to watch over the coming days to find out when unlock is out and where I can get it?

Thanks for taking the time in answering these (silly, I know) questions. But my brain is currently mush after reading through ALL 86 pages!!!

cdebru · 17-12-2007 12:37AM

cathyhal wrote: »

I have read through all 86 pages of this thread and I'm still baffled!!! I have a couple of very quick (and probably simple!) questions to wizards like PowerHouse Dan etc!!

I bought a new iPhone in Belfast yesterday. Firmware 1.1.2 and new bootloader. I know I can't unlock this until unlock is released but in the meantime, what can I do with it?

1. Can I downgrade it and simply use it as iPod Touch until unlock is released?
2. If so, how? (if someone could pin point the easiest link, that would be great)
3. If I do this, will it make unlocking (when unlock finally comes out) more complicated? I am a complete newbie!!!
4. I presume this is the thread to watch over the coming days to find out when unlock is out and where I can get it?

Thanks for taking the time in answering these (silly, I know) questions. But my brain is currently mush after reading through ALL 86 pages!!!

I don't believe you read all 86 pages but here is the answer anyhoo

1 yes

2 www.hacktheiphone.com (downgrade to 1.11 jailbreak the phone run OKtoprep update to 1.12 jailbreak again) ignore the anysim stuff doesn't apply to you as you have a 4.6 bootloader phone.

Edit here is an easier link for you

http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18284

3 unlocking if/when it comes about will involve activating and jailbreaking the phone and even if you go for hardware solution like turbosim or stealthsim you will still need to activate and jailbreak so no it should not make it more difficult

4 yes here is a good place

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 09:51AM

cdebru summed it up really, Here is another guide: http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18284

a Software unlocked for ootb 1.1.2 widely depends if apple upgrade the bootloader, but why would they do that when it stops hackers unlocking so i doubt they will which will mean no software unlock, I no geoshot (the teenager in us who was first to unlock his phone is working on trying to bypass and hack itunes and unlock it that way, With any hardware method as cdebru said your phone needs to be jailbroken.

And here is a good place myself or cbebru would usually post some news here is the site forum the iphone dev have http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=123.

cathyhal wrote: »

I have read through all 86 pages of this thread and I'm still baffled!!! I have a couple of very quick (and probably simple!) questions to wizards like PowerHouse Dan etc!!

I bought a new iPhone in Belfast yesterday. Firmware 1.1.2 and new bootloader. I know I can't unlock this until unlock is released but in the meantime, what can I do with it?

1. Can I downgrade it and simply use it as iPod Touch until unlock is released?
2. If so, how? (if someone could pin point the easiest link, that would be great)
3. If I do this, will it make unlocking (when unlock finally comes out) more complicated? I am a complete newbie!!!
4. I presume this is the thread to watch over the coming days to find out when unlock is out and where I can get it?

Thanks for taking the time in answering these (silly, I know) questions. But my brain is currently mush after reading through ALL 86 pages!!!

casod · 17-12-2007 11:52AM

has anyone fixed the smtp password disappearing issue when you setup GMAIL using IMAP, i.e smtp password keeps reverting back to optional which in turn means you cant send email's, apparently 1.1.2 fixes the bug, but I'm on FW1.1.1 (original unlocked 1.0.2 phones)

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 12:37PM

More gps news:

http://topiphonenews.com/?p=2040

Ace2007 · 17-12-2007 05:21PM

Right lads - complete newbie here when it comes to phone, so i'll ask a simple question, Roughly when to yous reckon that the Apple iPhone will be available to buy sim free in ireland, so that it can be used on any network..

See all yis that are buyin it - do yous just just all the applications and then have your seperate phone??

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 05:25PM

First off stop sayin yous! lol. No one knows when or even if ever a simfree version of the iphone wil be available.Dont exactly know what ya mean by your last question but Yeah you use the applications/iphone in the way press and open.You could always buy one from uk and hardware unlock it, hopefuly myself and unlockthatiphone will become the European Suppliers of the Stealth sim.

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 05:27PM

Hey just some news with Regards iphonesimfreer dont order from them, as you can see from there website there are "out of stock" which is not true, Apparently they dont work. Simple as that there has been reports of about 50 people who have recieved them and they dont work.

Ace2007 · 17-12-2007 05:42PM

ok - i mean by if i buy an iphone in say the states... it will be locked - yea?
so i won't be able to use it on say meteor in ireland - yea?

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 05:46PM

or if you buy one in uk ya they will be locked but you can buy a little bit of hardware you attached to your sim that will let you use any sim with it.

thebiggestjim · 17-12-2007 05:48PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

ok - i mean by if i buy an iphone in say the states... it will be locked - yea?
so i won't be able to use it on say meteor in ireland - yea?

Yea

tw0nk · 17-12-2007 06:03PM

Powerhousedan, does that stealth-sim really work? how much will you be retailing them for?

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 06:07PM

Yes the Stealth Sim works for both Uk/Usa phones and will more than likely work for 1.1.3 phone also,its basicly the same as turbo sim which has worked with all firmware upgrade. We have no finalised a price yet but it will be cheaper than the other options available, Might try and sort out a Boards.ie discount no promises though

tw0nk wrote: »

Powerhousedan, does that stealth-sim really work? how much will you be retailing them for?

markgoggin · 17-12-2007 06:54PM

PowerHouseDan wrote: »

Hey just some news with Regards iphonesimfreer dont order from them, as you can see from there website there are "out of stock" which is not true, Apparently they dont work. Simple as that there has been reports of about 50 people who have recieved them and they dont work.

Eh, s**t. Ordered 2 of them on Saturday. Now what do I do?

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 07:03PM

No idea, we tried to contact them regarding selling there product and they told us they needed a uk sim in order to get the code for it to work, complete cowboys.It might work ya never know but the last 50 who got them they dont work.

markgoggin wrote: »

Eh, s**t. Ordered 2 of them on Saturday. Now what do I do?

Cameraman1 · 17-12-2007 07:32PM

PowerHouseDan wrote: »

No idea, we tried to contact them regarding selling there product and they told us they needed a uk sim in order to get the code for it to work, complete cowboys.It might work ya never know but the last 50 who got them they dont work.

I received an email from them following an enquiry I made about their sim. A couple of days later I was copied on an email with what looks like every other person that ever made an enquiry to them. Basically anyone that was on that email who ordered one of their sims has replied to everyone else CC'd on the original email telling of their experiences with iphonesimfreer. Every one of them so far has said that the Sims dont work and thisevening, the guy from iphonesimfreer replied in terrible english, saying he'd offer a replacement or refund to anyone experiencing problems. They seem like complete cowboys though and I'd say trying to get a refund would be a difficult

Cameraman1 · 17-12-2007 07:35PM

@ PowerHouseDan

Hey dan, looking at one of your earlier posts ..... do you believe that there will NOT be a software unlock for 1.1.2 with the new bootloader?

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 07:36PM

Yup thats what i was talking about.

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 07:41PM

The thing is if apple update the Bootloader then there WILL be a unlock but if they dont update it then it wont be possible to unlock like now, So why would apple update it if they dont need to and success in blocking unlocking?Thats why myself and unlockthatiphone are looking for supply a hardware version that also wont void your warrenty

The Freeman · 17-12-2007 08:04PM

PowerHouseDan wrote: »

The thing is if apple update the Bootloader then there WILL be a unlock but if they dont update it then it wont be possible to unlock like now, So why would apple update it if they dont need to and success in blocking unlocking?Thats why myself and unlockthatiphone are looking for supply a hardware version that also wont void your warrenty

cool! keep us updated mate;)

also instead of goin to the north, accross the waters either side is there a way i can get my hands on an iphone???(besides ebay of course)

just look a the prices ffs lads http://search.ebay.ie/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=i-phone&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=17&fsoo=1

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 08:42PM

you could buy a uk one on ebay and buy a stealth sim?

PowerHouseDan · 17-12-2007 09:35PM

We(Myself and Unlockthatiphone) Will now be a the European Supplier of the Stealthsim. The Stealth Sim will work with Any iphone US / Uk and will work with ootb 1.1.2 iphone. The Stealth Sim Will be for sale at a Price of 79 Euro That Incl Reg Next Day Delivery. We Expect first shipment Either Wed Or Thursday but these will be giving out with the boards/other users that are awaiting iphone from Unlockthatiphone. We will be getting our first batch of Stealthsim on the 4th of January, and being the main suppliers of the Stealth Sim in Europe expect to sell out first. So we are taking orders now and will be shipped between the 4th /6th of January. Our Order page is currently being updated and should be live tomorrow also the domain stealthsimeurope.com should be active within the next few days. So any question ask away i am here most of the time as ye know

As i said we are giving boards users first dibs on then at this price. As i can gareentee there wont be a software unlock anytime soon. Unlockthatiphone.com now updated now preorders will be available at some stage tomorrow.

Kotek Besar · 17-12-2007 09:52PM

The Freeman wrote: »

cool! keep us updated mate;)

also instead of goin to the north, accross the waters either side is there a way i can get my hands on an iphone???(besides ebay of course)

just look a the prices ffs lads http://search.ebay.ie/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=i-phone&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D3&sabfmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ga10244=10425&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=17&fsoo=1

That eBay search won't narrow down enough for you. Try this one.

Tip: Be wary of iphones being advertised as 1.1.1, downgraded from 1.1.2 - there is no software unlock for these yet.

tw0nk · 17-12-2007 10:04PM

PowerHouseDan put me down for one of those stealth sims!

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