Bastid Bus Driver

Spook_ie · 04-12-2007 07:20AM

Binomate wrote: »

The bus diver can't let people on or off unless it's at a bus stop. That's policy. If he had have let you on he may have been fired. But your convenience is a lot more important than that man's job security because you're so great and important. In fact, I really don't know why they don't have an express bus service just for you...

Edit: someone said it before me

They do, it's called a Taxi

Spook_ie · 04-12-2007 07:30AM

from Dublin Bus Points of Law

ENTERING AND LEAVING THE BUS

An intending passenger should always signal clearly and in good time with his/her hand to the driver to stop the bus.

Passengers must only board and alight at a bus stop.

A passenger alighting may signal to the driver to stop the bus by ringing once the bell provided in the saloon of the bus.

Passengers shall exit through the centre doors unless otherwise instructed by an authorised person.

A passenger is forbidden to give any signal which might be interpreted by the driver as a signal from the conductor to start the bus.

Passengers shall not obstruct the driver’s view through windows or mirrors.

Passengers shall stand behind the white line at the driver’s seat.

Please do not distract the driver while the bus is in motion.

It is an offence to use any emergency exit except in the case of an emergency.

Hagar · 04-12-2007 08:21AM

Has the practice of drivers allowing other drivers ( off duty etc) to board in between official stops been eradicated? I've often seen buses pull away from stops full and leaving people behind only to open doors a few metres past the stop to allow a fellow employee board.
I can only imagine the risks and insurance liability to be very similar.

Reku · 04-12-2007 09:19AM

MizzLolly wrote: »

Uh oh.... when they pull away from a young lady does that mean you're ugly??? :eek:

Sorry but the drivers have spoken.:p

And as for all those pointing out the rules for where they can let on passangers I urge you to take note of the buses during traffic and you will regularly see them overlook that rule if it's for a young girl* (I've even actually seen women drivers do it so go figure what the motivation is) or for another CIE staff member (if they are not driving then they are legally a passanger). I'll have to remember to do the bitter old fart thing and note the licence plate of the bus and complain, get the driver sacked.:D

*Once I saw them do it for a guy on crutches, which I'm all for, poor lad could barely walk/hobble his way along.

Zapp Brannigan · 04-12-2007 07:26PM

farohar wrote: »

Sorry but the drivers have spoken.:p

And as for all those pointing out the rules for where they can let on passangers I urge you to take note of the buses during traffic and you will regularly see them overlook that rule if it's for a young girl* (I've even actually seen women drivers do it so go figure what the motivation is) or for another CIE staff member (if they are not driving then they are legally a passanger). I'll have to remember to do the bitter old fart thing and note the licence plate of the bus and complain, get the driver sacked.:D

*Once I saw them do it for a guy on crutches, which I'm all for, poor lad could barely walk/hobble his way along.

That's a great idea. Time to put that plan into action from now on! Feels good to be bitter!

Smellyirishman · 04-12-2007 08:48PM

Hagar wrote: »

Has the practice of drivers allowing other drivers ( off duty etc) to board in between official stops been eradicated? I've often seen buses pull away from stops full and leaving people behind only to open doors a few metres past the stop to allow a fellow employee board.
I can only imagine the risks and insurance liability to be very similar.

Exactly, this is one of the things I was coming in to say. I've often seen bus drivers ignore runners/elderly/people 2 ft past the bus stop only to lash on the brakes in the middle of the road to let one of their comrades in.

I was getting the bus on Westmorland st once and the bus pulled away from the stop into rush hour traffic only he was blocked in by all the cars stacked up. Once he did this, a couple of people came knocking on the door asking to be let in (keep in mind, the bus had not even cleared the bus stop at this stage and was going nowhere.) but of course he wouldn't open the doors.
Anyway we were stuck there for a couple minutes, enough time for me contemplate my move, get up off my seat upstairs and go down to the driver and ask him why he wouldn't just let the people in (they seemed very eager to get this particular bus) and he gave me crap about not being at a bus stop and to go away. I've seen buses let in people much further away from the designated stop; such as when a couple show up at once, or one of the guys comes along as said earlier.

That said, I've had bus drivers who wait for me, bus drivers that wait for old people, bus drivers that stop short of the stop to save a runner the run and more so they're not all that bad.

Reku · 05-12-2007 09:55AM

Come to think of it how often do buses actually stop at the bus stop, as opposed to behind another bus which is actually at the bus stop, surely 2ft ahead of the bus stop is just as valid as 10ft behind the thing?

Sizzler · 05-12-2007 10:16AM

I think the golden rule once the bus closes the door and moves away from the stop then thats it...however harsh that seems! Some drivers seem to get more fun than others though in exercising the directive :rolleyes:

ruprect · 05-12-2007 10:46AM

I had the weirdest bus man last week. I went to the bus stop and just missed the 7 bus. I was going to a concert at the RDS. Next thing a bus comes along with no number on it, but it said "RDS Ballsbridge" on it. So I think great, and stop it. The only bus I know going that way should have been another 7. As I got on I wanted to make sure it was going to the RDS as there was no number. So this was the conversation...

Me: Is this a 7?
Busman: No (I stared blankly expecting another number or answer but got nothing)
Me: Oh, your sign says it is going to the RDS, is it going there?
Busman: Well I dont particularly want to go to the RDS.
Me

: So is it going there?
Busman: Is it town you want to go to?
Me: Well actually I do just want to go as far as the RDS. Are you going to go there?
Busman: Well I suppose I am going to have to now, seeing as I am after letting you on.

Very bizarre. I was not speaking with any "tone", and neither was he really. At the end he was talking as though he was doing me a really big favour, like a driver would if you asked to get off the bus at a place that wasnt a stop, sort of a "GO ON, just this once", tone.

Mr Magnolia · 05-12-2007 11:01AM

Nice post Victor.

I was getting a bus into an unfarmiliar part of town towards the end of the route one night. I sat at the front and asked the driver to give me a shout when he was close to where I was going. After a while, I suspected we'd past where I was going, I asked the driver. He said "fcuk, I forgot about ya. Hold on there and I'll drop these last few off and take you back round". He did.

How sound was that!

spareman · 07-12-2007 11:41AM

The exact rule is once ours doors are closed and our indicator on we have left the stop. Personally Im sick to death of people asking to be let on/off at unoffical stops, Take last night for example, Traffic was absolutely brutal, took me 50mins to get from Donnybrook to Lesson street, traffic was crawling at best, Nobody gets off and walks to town, my bus is Jam packed leaving lesson street, 20 mins later Im in the right lane on stephens green with traffic on my inside and getting all sorts of abuse for not opening the doors and letting people out. I work the 46A route which has a wait time of 6 mins if you miss a bus, you waiting 6 mins seems better to me than waiting 3 hours at the A&E after ya get hit by a cyclist or something.

Zapp Brannigan · 07-12-2007 01:37PM

The 39 is not a 6 minute wait though. It's supposed to be but in reailty you get a bus coming along every 15-25 minutes.

cance · 07-12-2007 01:40PM

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

So I get off the train from Maynooth today and see that the 39 is pulling in at the bus stop. I leg it to the bus stop and see the bus begin to pull away, fortunately for me there's traffic so the bus has to stop around 2 feet from the bus stop. So I get up to the bus and gesture to the driver to ask if he'll let me on, the feckin bastid ignores me, so I tap on the door and he just points back to the bus stop! I mean the bus is stuck in traffic and he's not going anywhere until the train from town comes in anyways, so why the fuck wouldn't he let me on!?

So now I'm running to the next bus stop, which fortunately I reach before the bus gets there (it's a close call though). I get on and proceed to give the driver my best harsh/cold stare.

Seriously, how miserable of a person must he be, to not let me on 2 feet away from the bus stop?

this happened to me recently too, i got kinda pissed off too, then i remembered that he drives a bus and felt sorry for him.

missmatty · 07-12-2007 01:48PM

Don't get me started about the 39 (happy memories

), I assume it hasn't improved in any way.

What does it mean when a bus driver shuts the door ON you then? Like physically caught me between the two closing doors. One did once, I'm small and he didn't see me, well he didn't even apologize so I et him :mad:

humbert · 07-12-2007 02:04PM

I was once cycling along the stillorgan duel carriageway, I know I was meant to be on the cycle path but it was almost dark(did have lights of the bike) and the path goes through some trees, there are leaves on it and you can't see a thing so fuck that.

Anyway a bus driver beeps, fair enough, then drives terrifyingly close(and I'm not easily shaken but the curb is too high to mount and there a wall of metal closing in on me) then the lunatic opens the bus doors still about 6 inches from me pressed against the curb and starts shouting crap(he's African so I can't make a word he's saying out) . I politely suggest his mother was a lady of ill repute while breaking furiously.

So the fact the bus drivers often go past the bus stop(if it's obstructed) to pick up passengers and could easily have picked up the OP is the smallest example of how they are willing to bend the law.

emeraldstar · 07-12-2007 03:54PM

TheVan wrote: »

Eh I ran from O'Connell Bridge onto D'Olier St to catch a 46A one time, he pulled out and wouldn't let me on.......

...so i RAN to the next stop.....

46A? Could ya not just have waited 2 minutes for the next one?

07-12-2007 04:28PM

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

So I get off the train from Maynooth today and see that the 39 is pulling in at the bus stop. I leg it to the bus stop and see the bus begin to pull away, fortunately for me there's traffic so the bus has to stop around 2 feet from the bus stop. So I get up to the bus and gesture to the driver to ask if he'll let me on, the feckin bastid ignores me, so I tap on the door and he just points back to the bus stop! I mean the bus is stuck in traffic and he's not going anywhere until the train from town comes in anyways, so why the fuck wouldn't he let me on!?

So now I'm running to the next bus stop, which fortunately I reach before the bus gets there (it's a close call though). I get on and proceed to give the driver my best harsh/cold stare.

Seriously, how miserable of a person must he be, to not let me on 2 feet away from the bus stop?

happened to me a few times
sometimes they turn their head out the other window away from you and pretend you're not there

some do let you on though thankfully

Zapp Brannigan · 08-12-2007 08:10PM

Awesome bus driver this morning, he was pulling away from the stop as I came round the corner of my road in the lashing rain. He stopped for me halfway between my road and the bus-stop! Sound guy!

Ballerina · 08-12-2007 10:30PM

op that has happened to me loads of times, and so has the story about the doors closing ON you but what annoys me about it is not that they dont stop(i understand, as many people have stated, it can be really dangerous) but its the WAY the treat you(as you may see from my previous posts..) pretending like they dont see you when they clearly can, just making you angry, is just unnecessary.they could at least look at you and shrug their shoulders and mouth sorry, so that people dont keep knocking on the door as if their lives depended on it, making idiots out of themselves.

but then again....they do have a pretty awful job....

SprostonGreen · 08-12-2007 10:45PM

Bus drivers are thick, too thick even to pass the leaving cert. That is why they spend their lives driving around in a bus, they wouldn't be able to do a proper job. Its best not to let them annoy you, its probably they're only thrilling aspect of the job.

Naos · 08-12-2007 10:46PM

Zapp Brannigan wrote: »

The 39 is not a 6 minute wait though. It's supposed to be but in reailty you get a bus coming along every 15-25 minutes.

So close Zapp, so close. It's a 15-25 min wait, at best, and then two buses come along.

I just recalled an amusing Dublin bus incident. Was getting the bus to college, and after 10am the routes change apparently. So Bus drive drives up to the terminal and I approach him asking when the next bus is going back.

He points at a bus and grunts "That one". I can see the bus is getting ready to pull of so ask him will he beep at it, he looks at me and calmly says "Nah, I'm off duty now" and turns around to press some button beside him.

I stare at him blankly as the other bus pulls off. When I ask him when the next bus is, he tells me another 30 mins. I say "ah ****, okay" and he decides to take pity on me, starts his engine and proceeds to drive after the bus that had just left as quick as he can. At first stop I was able to transfer buse's no problem.

I think they were ripping the piss

Mr. Presentable · 08-12-2007 10:50PM

JHC, if they let you on 2' from the bus they'll be bastids for not letting you on 4' from the stop, you can see where this is going... If you are at the stop on time then you'll get on the bus. They are NOT taxis. I mean, FFS, you complain they don't run on time and complain when they don't wait. Get a grip.

Mr. Presentable · 08-12-2007 10:53PM

SprostonGreen wrote: »

Bus drivers are thick, too thick even to pass the leaving cert. That is why they spend their lives driving around in a bus, they wouldn't be able to do a proper job. Its best not to let them annoy you, its probably they're only thrilling aspect of the job.

What job do you do, Sproston? Not everybody has the same advantages, and some are doing the best they can while others............... are doing the least they can.

alleepally · 08-12-2007 11:17PM

SprostonGreen wrote: »

Bus drivers are thick, too thick even to pass the leaving cert. That is why they spend their lives driving around in a bus, they wouldn't be able to do a proper job. Its best not to let them annoy you, its probably they're only thrilling aspect of the job.

The OP said "how miserable of a person must he be, to not let me on 2 feet away from the bus stop"

I read your comment and have to say "how miserable a person are you to belittle someones job like that and make those generalisations". Not only was what you said a miserable thing to say, but also very mean spirited too.

ps - I'm not a bus driver, don't have relations that are bus drivers, don't know any socially or otherwise.

Kobie · 09-12-2007 11:21AM

It's pure power trip stuff with them sometimes. I've had that happen a few times - once the driver closed the doors & couldn't move a single inch for a few minutes. And there was one old coot who on two occasions saw me running towards the bus - watched me all the way to the stop & then shut the doors as I got within a few feet of the bus.

But as much as I'd like to generalise, I can't - for every small man in a big bus driving job, there are some really sound drivers.

Fajitas! · 09-12-2007 11:36AM

SprostonGreen wrote: »

Bus drivers are thick, too thick even to pass the leaving cert. That is why they spend their lives driving around in a bus, they wouldn't be able to do a proper job. Its best not to let them annoy you, its probably they're only thrilling aspect of the job.

Funny thing is, even if you were right, which you're not, they probably get paid more than you do.

Capt'n Midnight · 09-12-2007 01:45PM

Victor wrote: »

Buses run for those that wait. They don't wait for those that run.

LOL

After the indicents a while back I don't think any driver would want to be the fall guy if something were to happen. And since you are being angry and abusive now, I guess you burned up any goodwill at the time too.

Still at least you found out which gender the bus was.

Seriously if you find that the bus doesn't meet the train you could write in and ask them to do it, though obviously that would only apply where the bus terminous is at or very near the station. An old example would be the way the 90 used to leave Connelly about 2 minutes before the Belfast train got in, if the train was early you'd catch it, if you ran.

gazzer · 09-12-2007 02:33PM

I can totally understand why a bus driver wouldnt let you off at say the traffic lights or somewhere other than the bus stop but what say if the bus has just slightly pulled out from the stop but the back wheel is still at the footpath of the bus ie. the bus is at an angle (front of the bus is about 6 inches to the side of the stop and back wheels hasnt actually moved from where it was when the bus had stpped and so no other traffic can drive on the inside of the bus) why the hell wouldnt a driver let you on then.. They are still at the stop.. Its happened to me a couple of times trying to get the 38a which is one of the most unreliable buses I have ever had the misfortune to have to get.

I get the 39 from the quays as far as the cricket pitch at Baggot Road. A few times a 38A is right in front of the bus. When i jump off the 39 the 38a starts to pull out(like I described above) and still they wont let you on.

Mr. Presentable · 09-12-2007 02:57PM

gazzer wrote: »

When i jump off the 39 the 38a starts to pull out(like I described above) and still they wont let you on.

Because you've missed it!

gazzer · 09-12-2007 03:23PM

Nipplenuts .. did you read the whole of my post.. The bus was still at the stop. It was stuck in traffic. the back of the bus hadnt moved from the stop.. only the front of the bus had slightly pulled out.. Now c'mon .. surely you must admit that is a bit harsh not letting somebody on.?

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