How does it take 13 monkeys to hire a manager? Answer 113 days

joker77 wrote: »

Ah, I just despise Souness for what he did at Liverpool, I just can't see past that.

Mr Alan wrote: »

Cant help but feel a lot of the hate towards Souness may lie with his previous involvement with Rangers.

No doubting that a fair amount of Irish fans wouldnt be impressed if he got the job. Unfortunately.

edit: souness shambolic time managing liverpool was at a time when he still had so much to learn in management, he admits himself now that he would do almost everything differently if he was to be able to go back in time. As for selling all the irish players/anti-irish buzz? dont be so ridiculous. says selling Duff was one of the biggest mistakes he ever made in management. the anti-irish thing is just something **** celtic fans like to bash him with. not true at all. married to an irish woman for christ sake.

(by **** celtic fans, i mean anti-rangers,jersey & track-suit merchants for all occassions who know nothing about football, but know all the lyrics to the wolfe tones greatest hits)

eirebhoy wrote: »

There's something about Dowie though .

Mr Alan wrote: »

In fairness Eirebhoy, most of the posts in that are nonsense this is a good one though!

Originally posted by Jivin-Turkey:

And lets think back those ten years

Two years with Galatasaray - Two 2nd place finishes and a cup win. Not bad.
One year with Southampton - Safe going into the last day of the season for the first time in years, playing smashing football. Scoring loads of goals. Not bad.
Torino for a few months - Bit of a weird scenario, left after only three months. Not good.
Two years with Benfica - Two 2nd place finishes. Couldn't break Porto's monopoly. Not bad though.
Four years with Blackburn - Brought from mid-table Div1 to European qualification through the league, an amazing achievment. He won a league cup too. Finished his spell badly unfortunately, but still a good job overall.
One year with Newcastle - A team requiring surgery, poor league performance but distracted by two excellent cup runs (semis of both UEFA and FA). Not a great start to this year.

So in summary the only bad jobs he has done over the last ten years are Torino (for a few months) and.................actually that is all.

Newcastle did poorly in the league last year but he was trying to mould his team. They had two excellent cup runs and were in contention for Europe too until two players decided to go at each other on the pitch against Villa starting a run of 6 losses on the bounce.

This year Newcastle have been stuttering. Injuries have played a big factor, but it's blatantly obvious that some of the players are not good enough. Souness hasn't addressed this and has ultimately paid the price.

Still though, overall it is a bit much to say Newcastle are in disaray. They are in a much better position than they were when he took over. They have some cracking players. I bet once the new manager gets everyone fit that they will begin to do very well, just as I'd bet Souness would have done if he had a fit squad.

Souness was not the problem at Newcastle, it goes far far deeper. Which will probably be proven when Shepard goes and appoints SGE in the Summer.

Overall though you can't say Souness was great for them in fairness. He was hardly shocking though. So that makes two poor jobs out of six over a decade.

So yes I would consider his decade to be successful still Lemlin.

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The above would seem to be confirm considering roeder and big sam are hardly setting the world alight!

d22ontour wrote: »

Of course it had nothing to do with the players not being good enough or more importantly the fact Liverpool didn't adapt to the new back pass rule quite as easily. But then again it's easier to blame the bigoted husband of an Irish woman.

:rolleyes:

joker77 wrote: »

The universal opinion is that Liverpool were in the doghouse after Souness' reign and took years to recover (some would say are only getting there now).

The buck stops with the Manager, end of.

Mr Alan wrote: »

Souness made a bollox of liverpool, no doubting it