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How does it take 13 monkeys to hire a manager? Answer 113 days

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭emc2


    martin Jol anyone?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Let's go for Glenn Hoddle!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    it should be Stephen Kenny
    Not yet.

    Give him time, do some work in Scotland, then maybe move elsewhere, then make him Ireland manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Liam Brady anyone (talks a good game, prove it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭smemon


    i'd be happy with O Leary, Bruce or Jewell..

    lets be honest, all of them have experience, so that immediately makes them better than our current manager :D

    O Leary had leeds/villa playing decent football, Bruce can add that steel and team spirit, and turn the new landsdowne into a fortress, Jewell is probably the best of the bunch but doubt we'd be able to get him.

    We basically need someone hot headed who'll do things their way and that the players will fear. Kerr or Staunton couldn't do that and that's the reason they've both been sacked.

    In fairness to McCarthy, he had the balls to send keane home but that was a stupid, unforgiveable decision which backfired big time. But that's the sort of style we need.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    Liam Brady anyone (talks a good game, prove it)

    Brady was manager of Celtic before.

    He didn't prove it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Q_Ball


    Phillippe Troussier FTW!

    pfft, fabio cappello ftw imho tbh ;)
    smemon wrote: »
    ...that's the reason they've both been sacked.

    dont start getting peoples hopes up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭PCros


    Read this: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2007/1019/stauntons.html

    Thing is Delaney is still going to be in charge....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭kaisersose77


    No way would I want Paul Jewell. He got out of wigan when his decent reputation was still intact. If they got relegated he'd disappear again for years. May aswell forget about 2010 aswell if someone like him was appointed. He had one good season in the premiership, got relegated with Bradford and nearly got relegated again with Wigan (and Wigan had a bit of money).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Houllier i wouldnt imagine would be interested.

    Thank god.At least he wouldnt be able to sign Baros though.

    Haveing Houllier would mean years of Ireland snatching defeats from the jaws of victory.

    No thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    djpbarry wrote: »
    I would say that is even more true of Kerr - we never should have got rid of him.
    .

    Yes we should. See my description of Houllier.
    he 's also worse at using subs than Eddie O'Sullivan. At least O'Sullivan knows he hasnt a clue what to do so abstains from using them.


    Souness FTW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Phillippe Troussier FTW!


    Afraid not.
    He is living out in the Middle-East, has converted to Islam and calls himself Omar these days...I'm not joking by the way.


    Nobody on the list does it for me...not even Keano(he's not ready yet). Mainly because I believe we can get a top notch coach - the finished article.
    I wanted Roy Hodgson before Staunton got the job and I still want him now. He is a truly outstanding coach. At international level he is currently managing Finland who are punching above their weight. Also worked wonders with Switzerland. His club career is not to be sniffed at either. I would put him in the top tier of international managers with the likes of Lippi, Beenhakker and Hiddink. Those 3 names are almost universally agreed would not take the job but I am positive Hodgson would.
    If we get another 2nd rate guy after Staunton and Hodgson is not approached then that would be criminal in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,920 ✭✭✭evad_lhorg


    screw it, just splash the cash and get in Mourinho or Hiddink or someone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Pigman II wrote: »
    We should ask Mick McCarthy back again just to give him the opportunity to go "Oh...oh, gosh...you know, I'm not much on speeches, but it's so gratifying to
    leave you wallowing in the mess you've made. You're screwed, thank you, bye.
    "

    best post in thread! ripping off the simpsons is guaranteed funny! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    The only runners at the moment look like being DOL, Bruce and Souness but it's the FAI lads!!! I look forward to Kevin Kilbane being revealed as Ireland's next Player Manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭joker77


    Nunu wrote: »
    Afraid not.
    He is living out in the Middle-East, has converted to Islam and calls himself Omar these days...I'm not joking by the way.


    Nobody on the list does it for me...not even Keano(he's not ready yet). Mainly because I believe we can get a top notch coach - the finished article.
    I wanted Roy Hodgson before Staunton got the job and I still want him now. He is a truly outstanding coach. At international level he is currently managing Finland who are punching above their weight. Also worked wonders with Switzerland. His club career is not to be sniffed at either. I would put him in the top tier of international managers with the likes of Lippi, Beenhakker and Hiddink. Those 3 names are almost universally agreed would not take the job but I am positive Hodgson would.
    If we get another 2nd rate guy after Staunton and Hodgson is not approached then that would be criminal in my opinion.
    Agree with more or less everything you say here.

    But if you mentioned the name Hodgson to the Goon Squad in Merrion Square - do you think they'd know who you are talking about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    Nunu wrote: »
    Afraid not.
    He is living out in the Middle-East, has converted to Islam and calls himself Omar these days...I'm not joking by the way.


    Nobody on the list does it for me...not even Keano(he's not ready yet). Mainly because I believe we can get a top notch coach - the finished article.
    I wanted Roy Hodgson before Staunton got the job and I still want him now. He is a truly outstanding coach. At international level he is currently managing Finland who are punching above their weight. Also worked wonders with Switzerland. His club career is not to be sniffed at either. I would put him in the top tier of international managers with the likes of Lippi, Beenhakker and Hiddink. Those 3 names are almost universally agreed would not take the job but I am positive Hodgson would.
    If we get another 2nd rate guy after Staunton and Hodgson is not approached then that would be criminal in my opinion.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,867 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    I don't think anyone on that list is suitable to be honest... What we need is one of the international 'mercenary' managers who has international experience, e.g. Guus Hiddink, Phil Scolari, Phillipe Troussier etc.. Guys that have managed 2 or 3 international sides and know how it works... I'm not saying that we should get one of these guys in particular, but they are the caliber of manager that we need.

    After Euro 2008 there will be a lot of movement as there usually is after tournaments. I reckon we should wait until then... Might not give us time to prepare for the World Cup qualifiers, but we could get a better manager out of it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,867 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    Nunu wrote: »
    Afraid not.
    He is living out in the Middle-East, has converted to Islam and calls himself Omar these days...I'm not joking by the way.


    Nobody on the list does it for me...not even Keano(he's not ready yet). Mainly because I believe we can get a top notch coach - the finished article.
    I wanted Roy Hodgson before Staunton got the job and I still want him now. He is a truly outstanding coach. At international level he is currently managing Finland who are punching above their weight. Also worked wonders with Switzerland. His club career is not to be sniffed at either. I would put him in the top tier of international managers with the likes of Lippi, Beenhakker and Hiddink. Those 3 names are almost universally agreed would not take the job but I am positive Hodgson would.
    If we get another 2nd rate guy after Staunton and Hodgson is not approached then that would be criminal in my opinion.

    Troussier and his wife Dominique converted to Islam on March 17, 2006 in the Moroccan capital Rabat where they live.

    He has taken the name Omar and his wife is no longer Dominique but Amina, they have adopted two local girls Selma and Mariam.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Troussier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Id really like Paul Jewell, always had a soft spot for him. Seems like he's learned a lot over the past few years as well.

    Another few names to throw into the hat;

    Steve Cotterill, Joe Kinnear, Dave Jones, Tony Mowbray (very unlikely though, seems happy at West Brom).

    Id be happy enough with Souness as well, at least he's a strong character to not be an FAI yes man, and could do good work getting the setup right. Also, he probably wouldnt be with the players long enough to start fights.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,913 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I can't believe people are suggesting the likes of Bruce and Jewell - these are managers whose major achievements are staving off relegation (and they haven't always managed that either). Just like last time around many people were suggesting Bryan Robson. talk about lack of ambition.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    wim jansen ftw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    I don't think anyone on that list is suitable to be honest... What we need is one of the international 'mercenary' managers who has international experience, e.g. Guus Hiddink, Phil Scolari, Phillipe Troussier etc.. Guys that have managed 2 or 3 international sides and know how it works... I'm not saying that we should get one of these guys in particular, but they are the caliber of manager that we need.

    After Euro 2008 there will be a lot of movement as there usually is after tournaments. I reckon we should wait until then... Might not give us time to prepare for the World Cup qualifiers, but we could get a better manager out of it![/QUOTE]


    Very good point. It might be a gamble, but on the face of it if you look around now there are not many credible managers available, so could be worth it.
    On the other hand, if Staunton is sacked by Nov 17th then having the national team managers job in limbo for 7 months is not very desirable.
    It's a tough one. I'm certain that most current international managers are contracted until next June because usually the are up for review after each campaign(something the FAI chose to not do:rolleyes:0). So, maybe we should try and secure one of those managers who are out of contract in the summer and have an interim coach in the meantime.....this is what England tried to do with Scolari before he backed away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »

    Id be happy enough with Souness as well, at least he's a strong character to not be an FAI yes man

    This puts him out of the running. Completely.

    Brian Kerr wasn't a yes man, and he was shafted by Delaney.

    Steve Staunton is a yes man. It's why he got it.

    Look lads. Young up and coming English managers aren't going to want it.

    You can say 'people like' Allardyce and Coppell, but who else is 'like' them? And, seriously, someone 'like' that wouldn't be idiot enough to work for the FAI.

    It's going to be an ex-internatoinal, probably someone who played under McCarthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    loyatemu wrote: »
    I can't believe people are suggesting the likes of Bruce and Jewell
    The appointment of Stan is the cause of that.

    I think Third_Echelon is right we should be hiring a Mercenary type Manager that has a good track record and who will at least get us qualified for a tournament. But whether that happens is another thing all together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    What was the name of that manager who was doing really well with Hearts about 2 years ago but got sacked by the owner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I reckon it will be John Aldridge..

    Until heads role in the FAI we aint going to get a good manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Q_Ball


    DesF wrote: »
    It's going to be an ex-internatoinal, probably someone who played under McCarthy.

    +1 for jason mcateer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    What was the name of that manager who was doing really well with Hearts about 2 years ago but got sacked by the owner?

    George Burley, currently mis-managing Southampton.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    zabbo wrote: »
    George Burley, currently mis-managing Southampton.

    Ah! :o


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